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So I remember hearing that Samus (non-Zero Suit edition) is the worst character in Smash 4, but after playing as her for the past hour and a half, she's an absolute blast to play. The thing to remember is that her grab is bad, and her up-smash is bad, but as a whole she has a lot of fun options. In particular, nothing is as satisfying as Dash Attack into Up Air into Up Air into Up B. And being able to pepper the opponent with missiles until they let their guard down then blast them in the face with a full power Charge Shot is great as well. If you decide to try her out, make good use of her Up Tilt. It's seriously amazing, it's fast, covers a wide area, has strong knockback so it's a good kill move, and if you hit the opponent while they're standing it pops them straight up into the air where you can follow up with Samus' excellent aerial attacks. While most characters use a Down Throw to get their opponent in the air for combos, Samus is better suited to using a Dash Attack, Up Tilt, or Down Tilt for the job. I'm no master at using her or anything, but she's definitely fun and a nice change of pace from other characters.
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Jan 29, 2015 07:11
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mycot posted:If anything the people that hate it are the ones that think it's its own game since apparently some people didn't know it needs Brawl to work. I mean more the kinda people who say things like "this is the best smash ever" like it's actually part of Official Smash Canon or whatever the gently caress
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Jan 29, 2015 07:12
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The derivative works deal is an agreement between Nintendo and Niconico, not a an open endorsement to do whatever the gently caress you want.laplace posted:They've literally gone out of their way not to modify things too intensely, for example the whole reason why the Brawl Tether is still in PM is that they would need to actively modify brawl's code in order to change it, so they opted not to switch it. Now you're just making poo poo up. The reason they didn't change the tethers is because they don't know how. Hacking is hard.
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Plasbad posted:So I remember hearing that Samus (non-Zero Suit edition) is the worst character in Smash 4, but after playing as her for the past hour and a half, she's an absolute blast to play. The thing to remember is that her grab is bad, and her up-smash is bad, but as a whole she has a lot of fun options. In particular, nothing is as satisfying as Dash Attack into Up Air into Up Air into Up B. And being able to pepper the opponent with missiles until they let their guard down then blast them in the face with a full power Charge Shot is great as well. If you decide to try her out, make good use of her Up Tilt. It's seriously amazing, it's fast, covers a wide area, has strong knockback so it's a good kill move, and if you hit the opponent while they're standing it pops them straight up into the air where you can follow up with Samus' excellent aerial attacks. While most characters use a Down Throw to get their opponent in the air for combos, Samus is better suited to using a Dash Attack, Up Tilt, or Down Tilt for the job. I'm no master at using her or anything, but she's definitely fun and a nice change of pace from other characters. I recommend playing against Pit or Greninja, and once your humiliation is complete, you can form a new opinion about how good Samus is in Smash 4.
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Jan 29, 2015 07:22
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F. Lobot posted:The derivative works deal is an agreement between Nintendo and Niconico, not a an open endorsement to do whatever the gently caress you want. They... have said multiple times it's way too much work and would require direct modification of the code. I'm sure the difficulty is part of it, but they've taken a huge stance about not touching or modifying brawl in any way in order to maintain the grey area they're operating in. There is a pretty big thread on Smashboards specifically about this. Also, the agreement is not strictly between Niconico. At all, that is not what it says whatsoever, in the Japanese or the English. It was partnered with Dwango, but under the same clause people can now get away with far more than they used to be able to. The NicoNico partnership is there to prevent the same poo poo that happened during the Youtube fiasco a year ago, but it opens up derivative works into a much wider grey area. Regardless, PM is a nonprofit fangame that is made separate from any of Nintendo's code. Aside from getting mad at them for endorsing softmodding Wiis, there really isn't anything Nintendo can do other than send a C&D, which won't help now that the game is way beyond playable and is well distributed. edit: To go deeper in depth about the Dwango thing, Nintendo essentially got added to their creative endorsements program, which is essentially a sanctioned lets-play program where people are able to make things and not get them taken down. This however is not an automatic process, and as a result there is a gap between endorsed and unendorsed products that can't really be moderated. This is where PM and other fan games (like Mother 4, for example) tend to lay -- in between endorsement and active ignorance. The whole PM/Apex fiasco recently was related to Chibo releasing information about Nintendo's active ignorance, potentially endangering their financial situation/sponsorship. As of right now, it's clear that Nintendo is trying to get rid of PM streams without doing anything about PM, a thing that very conveniently coincided with the Creative Endorsement announcement. Regardless, my point is that PM is pretty much in a big fat grey area legally. It's not going to get anyone in jail or fined at all, and by the current looks of things Nintendo is actively turning a blind eye towards If anything, all its done is help Nintendo, considering how it requires a copy of Brawl to play. laplace fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Jan 29, 2015 |
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Jan 29, 2015 07:29
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i love super smash bros. my favorite bro is robin because she is the prettiest and strongest.
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Jan 29, 2015 07:41
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Lemming posted:I recommend playing against Pit or Greninja, and once your humiliation is complete, you can form a new opinion about how good Samus is in Smash 4. Oh I know she'll never be top tier or anything even close, I just think she's fun to play as and felt like sharing some thoughts about her play style. She definitely does better against heavier characters than anything though.
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Jan 29, 2015 07:43
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I main Lucina because she's a cool character from a cool game and one of her palette swaps make she look kinda like Utena from my Japanese animes. Still not sure of the best way to handle characters with spamable ranged attacks with her though. Trying to attack from above usually results in a shield block + grab or other punish or you have the charge through and eat the damage.
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Jan 29, 2015 07:45
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shield breaker can put some pressure on people who are relying on shielding your air approaches
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Jan 29, 2015 07:46
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I like Samus because people just don't know how to deal with her, expect her to be bad and automatically lose, and then get comboed into uair-uair-upb off the top kills. I still play Sheik in Smash 4 but Samus is always and forever my smash waifu
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Jan 29, 2015 07:48
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my smash confession is that i can't handle samus, always lose when i fight one in for glory i lost to a samus pretty decisively and then they switched to shiek and I won
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Jan 29, 2015 07:49
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Here's a video of a guy kicking rear end with Lucina using his face
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Jan 29, 2015 08:25
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god brolylegs owns
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Jan 29, 2015 08:31
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and how is he winning? Oh, he's disabled? Wowzers, I feel like an rear end. Incredible accomplishment. DoctorWhat fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Jan 29, 2015 |
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Jan 29, 2015 08:41
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Holy gently caress I'm devoting myself to mastering Dancing Blade. Is Lucina's dashing up smash secretly bad? It doesn't seem like that guy does it much.
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Jan 29, 2015 08:52
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This man is better than I will ever be and he's playing with his face. 
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Jan 29, 2015 08:52
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TheKingofSprings posted:Holy gently caress I'm devoting myself to mastering Dancing Blade. i mean he's playing with his face so who knows what options are easily available to him here
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Jan 29, 2015 08:53
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Huh, didn't know Broly played Smash. Usually a SF4 guy.
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Jan 29, 2015 09:07
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update just dropped, WHATS IN THE BOX e: 202MB patch
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Jan 29, 2015 09:41
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Some kind of smash update just launched, my game's updating as I type this.
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Jan 29, 2015 09:41
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heres some patch notes in japanese, google had this to say:quote:8 people brawl dedicated stage I added 15 species . It is is the following stage became to be able to new use .
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Jan 29, 2015 09:45
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Jan 29, 2015 09:51
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so more 8 player stages and hopefully 'a more pleasant gaming experience'
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Jan 29, 2015 09:54
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more 8 player stages is a very good update, there were way too few before
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Jan 29, 2015 09:55
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Ruggington posted:'a more pleasant gaming experience' whatever that means
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Jan 29, 2015 09:55
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replays still work so there's nothing changed about the gameplay. i'm betting on some ui changes
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Jan 29, 2015 10:00
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so apparently you can grab sheik right out of her fsmash, that's good to know https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S_28XzGt2A&hd=1
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Jan 29, 2015 10:22
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mabels big day posted:And I don't think most people who play Rosalina or ZSS actually like or appreciate their characters outside of smash, mostly because they don't have much likeability outside of smash This post is from a couple pages back but it's really hosed up. Rosalina and Samus are both cool and neat.
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Jan 29, 2015 15:04
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     I finally did it. 100% completion of this game! I'm so happy! Clearing Classic at 9.0 without dying was hard as hell. I used Bowser loaded up with offense, and an auto-healer ability, but it took forever because of the randomness that is Classic. Inarguably the most frustrating thing I've ever done in a game. The only other challenge I was worried about was getting all the headgear. Thankfully, I got all but 2 of them through just playing the game normally (grinding for custom moves, Trophy Rush, All-Star, Classic, etc.). The last two I got through Crazy Orders, and oddly enough, from an amiibo. To anyone trying to 100% the game, I recommend getting at least 8 amiibos. You set up a 99 stock match. Set the launch rate to 2.0, set the handicap on everyone to 300%, put them on an Omega stage, set Bob-Ombs to high, and...profit. If I didn't already have everything else, I'm sure this would be the most brain-dead way to collect money, moves, trophies, and costumes. I dreaded grinding for that last hat, but Donkey Kong got it for me on the second match. Feels good, man. Now, on to getting my rear end kicked at For Glory! For those curious, the challenges I used my hammers on: Clear Solo Classic in 12 minutes on intensity 9.0 with Marth (probably could have done this, but meh), Clear All-Star on Hard with all characters (hahah, gently caress no), Clear Crazy Orders after 20 or more turns while playing as Mario (really regret wasting a hammer on this), Clear Classic at intensity 9.0 without any customizations (probably could have done this too), Clear All-Star on hard difficulty with 8 or more characters (also gently caress no.)
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※ 8 people brawl dedicated stage , there is a difference , such as does not move part of the gimmick as compared with four brawl stage . In addition, as who can play comfortably the game, was fixed some of the problems . So basically the hazards are handled by invisible player character slots? Would explain why a couple hazards don't show up in All-Star mode, since the 'slots' would be taken up by the character spawners.
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Jan 29, 2015 15:45
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zolthorg posted:※ 8 people brawl dedicated stage , there is a difference , such as does not move part of the gimmick as compared with four brawl stage . Either that or it got laggy and fps dropped
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zolthorg posted:※ 8 people brawl dedicated stage , there is a difference , such as does not move part of the gimmick as compared with four brawl stage . Err, no, it means that 8 players and items and all those effects and particles and poo poo would cause a dip in the frame rate when the hazards were also doing their thing.
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Jan 29, 2015 16:46
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mycot posted:If anything the people that hate it are the ones that think it's its own game since apparently some people didn't know it needs Brawl to work. Is it still piracy if I run a PM injected Brawl ISO off a HDD if I also own two physical copies of Brawl itself?
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Jan 29, 2015 18:06
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Treebeh posted:Is it still piracy if I run a PM injected Brawl ISO off a HDD if I also own two physical copies of Brawl itself? Did you rip that Brawl ISO yourself?
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Jan 29, 2015 18:09
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Wild Knight posted:I have taken quite a shine to Shulk but I never finished his game because it's so loving LONG. Awesome as gently caress but so, so long. You've brought shame and dishonor to this internet forum. However I too am guilty of not finishing Xenoblade Chronicles. I got about 80 hours in when GTAV came out and I got sidetracked and never returned. It is for this reason I have not picked up Shulk as my main. I am not worthy to puppet his supple toned limbs.
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Jan 29, 2015 18:12
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laplace posted:Regardless, PM is a...fangame that is made separate from any of Nintendo's code. 
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Jan 29, 2015 19:11
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I don't know or care what that discussion is about, all I know is project m is a fun fast game
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IronicDongz posted:I don't know or care what that discussion is about, all I know is project m is a fun fast game PM is made by a bunch of thieves who just copy-pasted all of brawls code and then sabotaged it. Putting it on your wii means you are going to jail forever and the creators are wanted by interpol. It irreversibly changes nintendo's code and sakurai's vision. Nothing in PM is its own at all, and the people who made it are hacks who are trying to ruin smash brothers. It also wrecks every brawl disc it touches and kicks your puppy. Project M is literally the devil.
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laplace posted:PM is made by a bunch of thieves who just copy-pasted all of brawls code and then sabotaged it. Putting it on your wii means you are going to jail forever and the creators are wanted by interpol. It irreversibly changes nintendo's code and sakurai's vision. Nothing in PM is its own at all, and the people who made it are hacks who are trying to ruin smash brothers. I can only imagine how these people react to stuff like the League of Legends mods for dota or the A Song of Ice and Fire mod for Crusader Kings (TWO piracies at once!) Or the mod that recreates the entirety of Fallout 3 into Fallout New Vegas. mycot fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Jan 29, 2015 |
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