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Mellow Seas posted:Sweet loving poo poo does this thread go off the rails sometimes. If we didn't have emergency dumps of LL101 I wonder if this thread would ever be anything but... this. That's why I don't usually just post the latest news from Raw Story. I try to wait for people to post something. I don't have a bunch of Republicunts to draw my rage from on Facebook.
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I feel oddly proud.1stGear posted:Female James Bond, female Doctor Who, gender-flip all the Avengers, kill all nerds. empty quoting this.
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Wait are there people who seriously care about the character of Bond beyond "suave person who says cool poo poo while explosions happen"? I'm imagining Skyfall with Bond as a woman and it's frankly the same movie.
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DrProsek posted:Wait are there people who seriously care about the character of Bond beyond "suave person who says cool poo poo while explosions happen"? I'm imagining Skyfall with Bond as a woman and it's frankly the same movie. Read the last page or so. The answer is yes.
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Why don't they make a unique female spy character whose movie will lack brand recognition, making it more likely to flop?
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James Bond is a masculine ideal archetype. That is why some people care too much. They see Bond as a role model with regard to their own masculinity. edit: Google: "james bond" pua To the degree that he is sexualized, the character would be different if Bond were female. While I'm sure it would be a seriously interesting deconstruction generally if it were done well; and though I've not seen it I had heard that Skyfall already played down that aspect of Bond so maybe that specific movie would work; it's disingenuous to pretend it'd be the same. VideoTapir fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Jan 30, 2015 |
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McDowell posted:Why don't they make a unique female spy character whose movie will lack brand recognition, making it more likely to flop? They'll blame the flop on the gender and not the marketing reasons. No joke, this is fairly established. VideoTapir posted:James Bond is a masculine ideal archetype. That is why some people care too much. They see Bond as a role model with regard to their own masculinity. . Was going to post this. Even Connery thought that Bond was a sexist poo poo when he first got the role.
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VideoTapir posted:it's disingenuous to pretend it'd be the same. Oh it'd absolutely be different. Same way any movie would be different if you put a different actor in the character. But outright saying it wouldn't work at all is also a little disingenuous.
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During the Occupy protests this guy also said they should all be round up and put into camps.  Apparently he's a Chris Kyle truther. Seeing as how Ventura, the nutball he is, won the defamation suit. I mean that kinda says "It has been ruled by The Courts that you are full of poo poo, pay up for being a loudmouth liar" It's annoying that I can't say a bad word about Kyle without people descending calling me un-american, or telling me "why not just go spit on some troops next". The hero worship of him is scary and gross.
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hamster_style posted:It's annoying that I can't say a bad word about Kyle without people descending calling me un-american, or telling me "why not just go spit on some troops next". The hero worship of him is scary and gross. please point out that Ventura sued Kyle for defamation and won, making Kyle a liar in the eyes of the US justice system
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Jan 30, 2015 02:04
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Glenn Close was a male pirate in Hook. Earth was destroyed that day.
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hamster_style posted:During the Occupy protests this guy also said they should all be round up and put into camps. Point out to him that Ventura served in Vietnam as an underwater demolitionist, the precursor to the SEALs. Your friend would apparently prefer to save one of the most infamous terrorists in history over a Real American Hero.
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Just dropping in to say I want to see Amy poehler play James Bond
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hamster_style posted:Vin Diesel in an Aliens reboot. gently caress yes! Hang on, the OP argued against funding college tuition with the "teach a man to fish" story? How is that anything other than an argument for universal education?
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Popular Thug Drink posted:please point out that Ventura sued Kyle for defamation and won, making Kyle a liar in the eyes of the US justice system Jurgan posted:Hang on, the OP argued against funding college tuition with the "teach a man to fish" story? How is that anything other than an argument for universal education?
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hamster_style posted:Vin Diesel in an Aliens reboot. gently caress yes! I'm on food stamps, both when I was unemployed and now that I'm employed. Weird, I never knew I had just got out of prison
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Bob James posted:Glenn Close was a male pirate in Hook. Ouch, my masculinity!
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hamster_style posted:During the Occupy protests this guy also said they should all be round up and put into camps. Not to mention that Al Franken has been a great Senator and was re-elected overwhelmingly, we have one of the best economies in the country, highest job growth, etc. But yeah, we hosed up hard with Ventura. I think his Democratic opponent that race was Mondale. Ventura also squandered our surplus  BUT WE GOT IT BACK NOW HAHAHAH SUCK IT WISCONSIN
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VideoTapir posted:James Bond is a masculine ideal archetype. That is why some people care too much. They see Bond as a role model with regard to their own masculinity. Have a white male Bond, make him the same sexist douchebag he was in the earlier films, but make him the villain, cast against a woman spy protagonist working for SWAPO or the ANC.  hamster_style posted:During the Occupy protests this guy also said they should all be round up and put into camps. The Christ Kyle worship really is getting a bit creepy. His autobiography paints a picture of someone who is either a compulsive liar or a man with a serious mental illness; either way, he needed psychiatric care, probably a lot of it, and should be mourned as a failure of the American veterans' care system.
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Boywhiz88 posted:Not to mention that Al Franken has been a great Senator and was re-elected overwhelmingly, we have one of the best economies in the country, highest job growth, etc. But yeah, we hosed up hard with Ventura. I think his Democratic opponent that race was Mondale. Ventura also squandered our surplus Really there shouldn't ever be a point where a Minnesotan isn't telling Wisconsin to suck it.
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Boywhiz88 posted:Not to mention that Al Franken has been a great Senator and was re-elected overwhelmingly, we have one of the best economies in the country, highest job growth, etc. But yeah, we hosed up hard with Ventura. I think his Democratic opponent that race was Mondale. Ventura also squandered our surplus You also gave us Michelle Bachman.
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Jurgan posted:You also gave us Michelle Bachman. Thankfully, she's gone as of the start of this year. Unfortunately, we've just given you all Tom Emmer. That entire district is a very dark red stain on this state.
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Techno Remix posted:Thankfully, she's gone as of the start of this year. Seriously. Every state has it's crazy, and that district is ours. At least we can hold onto that we didn't go for Reagan in his massive landslide. Also that we were awesome during the Civil War: quote:When the Civil War began on April 12, 1861, Minnesota's governor, Alexander Ramsey, was in Washington, D.C. and he immediately promised President Abraham Lincoln that Minnesota would raise a regiment of 1,000 volunteer soldiers for service in the Union army. These were the first troops offered to fight for the Union during the Civil War. quote:The First Minnesota Volunteer Infantry Regiment mustered for a three-year term (1861-1864) in the Union Army at the outset of the American Civil War when the prevailing enlistment period was three months. quote:The 1st Minnesota Heavy Artillery mustered in at St. Paul, and Rochester, Minnesota, between November 1864 and February 1865. [...] Albert Woolson, who was a 14-year-old company drummer in the regiment, became the last surviving veteran of the American Civil War from either side. He died in 1956.  Anyway, political forwards!quote:Who the gently caress hates on Biden? He's dreamy.  
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Mo_Steel posted:Seriously. Every state has it's crazy, and that district is ours. At least we can hold onto that we didn't go for Reagan in his massive landslide. Also that we were awesome during the Civil War: Yeah, I shouldn't throw stones. My home state started the Civil War, and Lindsey Graham is our reasonable senator. Now I'm in Colorado, which just elected Cory Gardner and *snicker* Dr. Chaps.
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McDowell posted:Why don't they make a unique female spy character whose movie will lack brand recognition, making it more likely to flop? MGM has basically be thinking of doing exactly this since the 90's (Most recently spinning off Halle Berry's character from Die Another Day), but ultimately everyone just decides "Let's just get started on the next James Bond instead"
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Coming in 2016, a remake of Alien with Ripley played by Vin Diesel Alien is like the worst example for this because it was written so that any of the parts could be played by a man or a woman.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:James Bond strides into the cocktail party, his tuxedo ill fitting and poorly cut due to his breasts and short stature. He swiftly moves into a back room, and uses a watch too large for his wrist to shoot a laser through the safe holding the documents. On his way out he speaks with his mexican accent to a woman on the way out, charming her to avoid detection of his theft, though she stands half a head higher him in her high heeled shoes compared to his men's dress shoes. Remove the bit about breasts and an accent and you just described Mission Impossible. Rick_Hunter posted:I would watch it if it was Aliens. Isn't that just Doom? Mister Bates posted:Have a white male Bond, make him the same sexist douchebag he was in the earlier films, but make him the villain, cast against a woman spy protagonist working for SWAPO or the ANC.
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How am I supposed to suspend my disbelief and really get into the movie if the person driving an invisible car, fighting black gangs with magic voodoo powers, scrambling the Space Shuttle filled with marines for a laser battle on a space station, getting in hand-to-hand combat with some steel-jawed android, narrowly avoiding getting beheaded by a razor-brimmed hat, infiltrating lairs in ridiculous places like volcanoes or under the ocean, while staying in the prime of life from the 1960's until today yet somehow was only first hired in the 2000s...also has breasts?!?! I mean breasts on an agent are so unrealistic, what an absurd premise. How would you even drive an invisible car with breasts all in the way. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Jan 30, 2015 |
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Literally The Worst posted:Alien is like the worst example for this because it was written so that any of the parts could be played by a man or a woman. Ripley was written for man, it was changed, and now it's one of the more famous and beloved examples of a woman as the lead without being a damsel in distress.
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Mo_Steel posted:
Joke's on them. Everybody knows Joe has been running things this whole time.
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hamster_style posted:During the Occupy protests this guy also said they should all be round up and put into camps. In America, being a Veteran means that your actions are Beyond Reproach and nobody should ever say a bad word about you. What people don't understand is that it's entirely possible to honorably serve your country and still be morally corrupt or at least enjoy killing to the point in which you have a mental issue because of it. American Sniper just happens to be the perfect medium for hyper-masculine right wingers to project their fantasy of killing Hajji for the good ole US of A. By that logic, if you have any criticism about the movie (content or production wise) then you hate America.
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VitalSigns posted:How am I supposed to suspend my disbelief and really get into the movie if the person driving an invisible car, fighting black gangs with magic voodoo powers, scrambling the Space Shuttle filled with marines for a laser battle on a space station, getting in hand-to-hand combat with some steel-jawed android, narrowly avoiding getting beheaded by a razor-brimmed hat, infiltrating lairs in ridiculous places like volcanoes or under the ocean, while staying in the prime of life from the 1960's until today yet somehow was only first hired in the 2000s...also has breasts?!?! And are they gonna change the Bond Girl into a Bond Dude? How am I supposed to
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I have yet to see one of my actually serving military friends on Facebook talk about the American Sniper ordeal. I am guessing that there are many veterans who support Kyle but I find it interesting that the only people who are throwing a fit and sharing links about this are the "I never served in the military but I love the military and I military role play by purchasing as many guns as possible."
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Vargatron posted:In America, being a Veteran means that your actions are Beyond Reproach and nobody should ever say a bad word about you. The problem with this theory is that Jesse Ventura is also a veteran of the exact same type as Chris Kyle. Although I guess he just loses some points for not being a sniper so Chris Kyle is ranked higher and wins. Even though snipers by definition hide where no one can see them and take out dudes from safe vantage points while Jesse Ventura faced down the Predator and minigunned the Entire Jungle.
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Bloodnose posted:The problem with this theory is that Jesse Ventura is also a veteran of the exact same type as Chris Kyle. Although I guess he just loses some points for not being a sniper so Chris Kyle is ranked higher and wins. he loses points by not being a canvas on which dickless losers can project their rah rah jingoistic power-murder fantasies
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Bloodnose posted:The problem with this theory is that Jesse Ventura is also a veteran of the exact same type as Chris Kyle. Although I guess he just loses some points for not being a sniper so Chris Kyle is ranked higher and wins. That and the enemies he faced then aren't the enemies of today so it doesn't count, I guess. Vietnam War is probably far from the average American's mind, probably why some don't bat an eye when Kerry's Purple Heart is mocked.
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