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Nah, they're just cutting it all funny for the trailer. Varys' next line will be "psych! Its a him! Meet my buddy, Eggsy"
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TOOT BOOT posted:I'm curious about the Sansa getting revenge bit. She's definitely not in a position to do anything like that in the books as of now. In her Winds chapter reading Littlefinger tells her she should marry Harry the Heir so they can rally the Vale lords to invade the North. Rosscifer fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Jan 30, 2015 |
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Jan 30, 2015 13:59
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That's in Feast.
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So assuming eagon being cut leads to the same-ish engame as the books eventually will, this would mean he dies shortly after coming to westeros and his host will join with Dany or something.
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Jan 30, 2015 14:22
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What if littlefinger is actually working for some way northern power looking to invade and the whole Sansa thing is the longest con to weaken the position of the vale and northern armies Only Cat means not Sansa 
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Jan 30, 2015 14:35
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Drogon looks loving massive. Also "the war to come" = Dance of Dragons still confirmed...? Right? Varys wouldn't believe anything about the Others. But it looks like Aegon is cut? 
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Jan 30, 2015 14:46
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That Aegon, he's such a cut up. And I like the cut of his jib.
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Jan 30, 2015 14:55
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I'm excited for Littlefinger's schemes to get trashed, Gordian knots style. Try to invade the North? Oops, there's an invincible snow army marching south. Want to consolidate your hold on the Riverlands? Well, your undead childhood crush is marching across the plains, seeking revenge. Hide in your unsiegable fortress deep in the mountains? Oh look, here come the dragons!
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Jan 30, 2015 15:52
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Zedd posted:So assuming eagon being cut leads to the same-ish engame as the books eventually will this would mean he dies shortly after coming to westeros and his host will join with Dany or something. I wouldn't assume anything about how the endgame will correlate with that of the books at this point. I highly doubt he was introduced, and the Blackfyres treated as so significant by GRRM, simply to make Dany's army slightly larger when she's already potentially getting some khalasars and some ironmen to support her. While GRRM does play with expectations, a character asserting he has a better claim than Dany and is the missing son of her dead brother, who is likely in actuality the only surviving member of the Targaryens' rebel branch house, is pointless to introduce if it's only to be killed in some minor battle so all his men switch allegiances over to Daenerys. It wouldn't be playing with expectations at that point, it would be poor story-telling.
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Zedd posted:So assuming eagon being cut leads to the same-ish engame as the books eventually will this would mean he dies shortly after coming to westeros and his host will join with Dany or something. In what is a surprise to not one reader in this thread, you won't find out this year! http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jan/30/george-rr-martin-the-winds-of-winter-publication
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In one of the TWOW Arianne chapter readings One of her companions has recurring dreams about dragons dancing "and everywhere the dragons danced the people died." There's no way that Aegon dies attacking Storm's End or whatever, Dance of Dragons Part Deux is going to happen first.
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Jan 30, 2015 16:36
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I can't help but think that they might be partially morphing Sansa into Lady Stoneheart, especially with all this talk of revenge and Brienne's involvement in the plot.
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Pong Daddy posted:In one of the TWOW Arianne chapter readings One of her companions has recurring dreams about dragons dancing "and everywhere the dragons danced the people died." There's no way that Aegon dies attacking Storm's End or whatever, Dance of Dragons Part Deux is going to happen first. Yeah. I think that people are overselling the predictive qualities of the television show in relation to the books.
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Beeez posted:I wouldn't assume anything about how the endgame will correlate with that of the books at this point. I highly doubt he was introduced, and the Blackfyres treated as so significant by GRRM, simply to make Dany's army slightly larger when she's already potentially getting some khalasars and some ironmen to support her. While GRRM does play with expectations, a character asserting he has a better claim than Dany and is the missing son of her dead brother, who is likely in actuality the only surviving member of the Targaryens' rebel branch house, is pointless to introduce if it's only to be killed in some minor battle so all his men switch allegiances over to Daenerys. It wouldn't be playing with expectations at that point, it would be poor story-telling.
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Jan 30, 2015 17:39
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He might get revealed later because didn't Varys & Illyrio pretend to be buddy buddy with Dany and sent Tyrion to go meet her in ADWD?
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Jan 30, 2015 17:50
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BillBear posted:He might get revealed later because didn't Varys & Illyrio pretend to be buddy buddy with Dany and sent Tyrion to go meet her in ADWD? Yes, and the original plan was to have Aegon meet up and marry Dany before Tyrion convinced him to go off to Westeros.
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Jan 30, 2015 17:54
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Lycus posted:I just don't think it can be more obvious at this point that Aegon is cut completely. In It For The Tank posted:I can't help but think that they might be partially morphing Sansa into Lady Stoneheart, especially with all this talk of revenge and Brienne's involvement in the plot. You know, I really don't understand why they keep cutting stuff. The shows are moving much faster than the books, and GRRM himself agreed with fan concerns that he may not be able to write the two remaining ones fast enough. So why don't they make the shows last like 15 seasons and tell the stories in proper detail? It's not like viewer numbers are decreasing. On the contrary, the show is becoming more popular and HBO must be printing money.
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enraged_camel posted:You know, I really don't understand why they keep cutting stuff. The shows are moving much faster than the books, and GRRM himself agreed with fan concerns that he may not be able to write the two remaining ones fast enough. So why don't they make the shows last like 15 seasons and tell the stories in proper detail? It's not like viewer numbers are decreasing. On the contrary, the show is becoming more popular and HBO must be printing money. There's about a million reasons why: actors aren't going to sign away their entire careers to a 15-season long HBO show, budgetary concerns, viewership concerns, actors will outpace their characters ages, etc etc etc.
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enraged_camel posted:You know, I really don't understand why they keep cutting stuff. The shows are moving much faster than the books, and GRRM himself agreed with fan concerns that he may not be able to write the two remaining ones fast enough. So why don't they make the shows last like 15 seasons and tell the stories in proper detail? It's not like viewer numbers are decreasing. On the contrary, the show is becoming more popular and HBO must be printing money. The Gregor and Daario switchups were immensely stupid horrible fuckups and made everyone do a double-take (twice for Gregor), and there has already been one death on the cast. A 15 year show with this kind of cast isn't possible, isn't feasible, isn't worth trying - this isn't Doctor Who.
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enraged_camel posted:You know, I really don't understand why they keep cutting stuff. The shows are moving much faster than the books, and GRRM himself agreed with fan concerns that he may not be able to write the two remaining ones fast enough. So why don't they make the shows last like 15 seasons and tell the stories in proper detail? It's not like viewer numbers are decreasing. On the contrary, the show is becoming more popular and HBO must be printing money. Also do you really want Penny, 'words are wind' x1000 etc.?
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I think they are doing a fine job on the show, and in two-three more years we will finally get an ending. I'd be shocked if Grrm can get TWOW out before the end of the show and I truly believe he won't finish the series. Edit: Also with the way the last book was edited I don't have very much faith that TWOW will be anything more than another 1000 page half a book.
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In It For The Tank posted:I can't help but think that they might be partially morphing Sansa into Lady Stoneheart, especially with all this talk of revenge and Brienne's involvement in the plot. Word. I could be down for Sansa hanging some Frey's nonchalantly, and also presenting Brienne with an impossible choice. There's still dramatic irony there. Too bad there wont be any Gendry=Aegon. It seemed to be set up with his more prominent role and the fact Varys knows him. It woulda made sense, but if this show is only doing 3 more seasons, you gotta cut the corners you're already cutting. Question: Who's sigil are those men on horseback with the birds on their shields? Are those Arryn men? Mike N Eich fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Jan 30, 2015 |
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http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jan/30/george-rr-martin-the-winds-of-winter-publication Not that we expected anything different but drat, GRRM really doesn't seem to give a gently caress about finishing the books.
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Mike N Eich posted:Question: Who's sigil are those men on horseback with the birds on their shields? Are those Arryn men? Yup. I would guess that they're escorting Sansa, Robin and Littlefinger from the Eyrie. Anyways after watching the trailer a couple times it looks like there'll be some good stuff, particularly the Brazen Beasts and the gladiatorial combat, the Faith Militant, and the rescue from Hardhome or whatever similar event they have going on in the North. The Dorne/Sand Snakes stuff looks incredibly cheesy but I guess that comes with the material a little.
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The GOT Exhibition gives you the opportunity to pledge yourself to the rightful king of Westeros.
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Nerd Grenade posted:http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jan/30/george-rr-martin-the-winds-of-winter-publication I don't think that rules it out. That's just the publisher saying 'he hasn't told us he's almost done'. He could still decide he's done in June and bring it out in December. Anyway, have we heard anything concrete about this year's inevitable credits cover track? The three previous ones are still in my regular iTunes rotation.
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As long as we get to see Cersei burn down the Tower of the Hand, then this season is fine in my mind, regardless of who they cut
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The Glumslinger posted:As long as we get to see Cersei burn down the Tower of the Hand, then this season is fine in my mind, regardless of who they cut I don't think they've made the tower notable enough in the show. As a reader, so much takes place in there, but I don't know if they've ever even shown a really good exterior shot of it in the show. I don't know if it would carry the same weight.
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BillBear posted:He might get revealed later because didn't Varys & Illyrio pretend to be buddy buddy with Dany and sent Tyrion to go meet her in ADWD? If by later you mean S6, I think that waiting to introduce a character until after all of their published material is pointless and way worse than just cutting them.
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AFewBricksShy posted:I don't think they've made the tower notable enough in the show. This is true. I can't really find any good images of it, either from the show or fanart/official illustrations. Only one of it burning.
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Lycus posted:If by later you mean S6, I think that waiting to introduce a character until after all of their published material is pointless and way worse than just cutting them.
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meristem posted:What's your stand on Euron? Probably cut, I used to think there was a slim possibility of seeing him in some form, but nah, probably cut.
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So that leaked script for S5E1 seems pretty believable now. I am loving down for this. That shot with the harpy falling owned hard.
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colonel_korn posted:And heeeeeeeere come the bootlegs! Seeing that shot of Jorah in the trailer hanging in a fighting pit, would it be fair to assume they'll throw him into the pits just before Drogon comes a calling?
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Max posted:Seeing that shot of Jorah in the trailer hanging in a fighting pit, would it be fair to assume they'll throw him into the pits just before Drogon comes a calling? Yeah, I'm hoping it will be like a Jorah/Tyrion buddy cop season.
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Max posted:Seeing that shot of Jorah in the trailer hanging in a fighting pit, would it be fair to assume they'll throw him into the pits just before Drogon comes a calling? I think that's a fair assumption, yeah.
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Tyrion and Varys are going to hang out until around episode 4 and then Jorah kidnaps Tyrion. When Varys realizes Tyrion is gone he looks directly into the camera and says "if only there was another Targaryen..." and winks and then jumps into the water and doesn't surface.
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enraged_camel posted:You know, I really don't understand why they keep cutting stuff. The shows are moving much faster than the books, and GRRM himself agreed with fan concerns that he may not be able to write the two remaining ones fast enough. So why don't they make the shows last like 15 seasons and tell the stories in proper detail? It's not like viewer numbers are decreasing. On the contrary, the show is becoming more popular and HBO must be printing money. At this point I think it's fair to say the books will probably never be finished. And I think he's even hinted there will need to be more than 7 of them. It wasn't supposed to be as much as 7 to begin with IIRC. So I'm fine with the show giving us some sort of conclusion to the series.
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meristem posted:Also do you really want Penny, 'words are wind' x1000 etc.? Hey, I want both Penny and Aegon. Oh well, at least we get ~Ser Kevan Lannister~ supposedly 
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