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dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.
You should be able to do a lot better than that - that APU is pretty much garbage and the system comes with an awful 1366x768 screen

Also who knows what cruddy SSD they'll ship you - you're much better off buying a system with a normal hard disk and slipping your own SSD in.

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wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

Duzzy Funlop posted:

After 7 years, I'm looking for a replacement for my Nexoc (insert model name) with a 2,1 Ghz Core 2 Duo T8100 and 4 GB of RAM. I'm currently in the US as an exchange student for at least 15 more months and looking for an all-round deal that doesn't need to excel at anything, but gives me some flexibility. The last time I paid around 800 Euros I believe, this time around I'm thinking about something sub-or-equal-to 700 Dollars, how does this deal for a Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E545 look?

I gathered I definitely want an SSD with at least 128Gb and 8 Gb RAM, I myself would like an HDMI output, a no-poo poo numpad, a decent screen to look at for 5 hours of studying/working per day (I'm also currently sitting with a 15.6" screen) and the capability of running non-cutting-edge games at meh-solutions would also be cool. (Let's say Eve Online and World of Tanks for two differing examples)

I have a 2 Terabyte USB 3.0 external drive, so should I drop to the 128Gb SSD version for 100 Dollar less? This would be my first SSD and I don't know for certain if I should apply the universal (better go a little bigger) principle.

Would there be anything else in the sub-700 price segment you guys would recommend that would be comparable to what I'm looking for?

Didn't someone on here post as Dell deal for the new XPS13 for $749?

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

wooger posted:

Didn't someone on here post as Dell deal for the new XPS13 for $749?

Looks like right now they have the i3/4gb/128gb SSD/No touch model for $799, with a $75 coupon code.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Got a T440S this morning. Nice! However, Lenovo installs so much poo poo. gently caress.



sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006

Bob Morales posted:

Got a T440S this morning. Nice! However, Lenovo installs so much poo poo. gently caress.




This isn't too bad. The macro image you posted however is extremely bad.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

DNova posted:

This isn't too bad. The macro image you posted however is extremely bad.

17 programs with the Lenovo name in them. 17.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

dissss posted:

You should be able to do a lot better than that - that APU is pretty much garbage and the system comes with an awful 1366x768 screen

Also who knows what cruddy SSD they'll ship you - you're much better off buying a system with a normal hard disk and slipping your own SSD in.

Okay, it seems I misread a whole bunch and got my priorities messed up. So grabbing a non-SSD deal with the capability to replace the HDD with your own SSD would be the way to go then?

Aphrodite posted:

Looks like right now they have the i3/4gb/128gb SSD/No touch model for $799, with a $75 coupon code.

I've looked at the deal and the screen looks amazing, but would there be any comparable models with equally good screens with a better processor that I could get sub-700 Dollars if I get an SSD seperately?
700 is sort of my hard cap, possibly 750. I'm currently on a fairly tight monthly budget so I don't have too much upwards wiggle-room without murdering the next months budget. I have never looked at installment payments, but if there are reasonable options for that, I'd be open for it.

My main concern is that the non-touch XPS 13 with the next-gen i3 only has 2,1 Ghz and 4GB and while I understand that that will beat a 7 year old 2,1Ghz CPU and 4GB Ram any day no questions asked, I was looking to maybe take a little step up in performance over the price/performance category I was in last time.

/edit
As an ancillary question, are newegg and amazon proper places to look for deals or do I go straight to the manufacturer in some cases?
Sorry for the rookie-esque questions, I've had my two to three go-to stores in Germany but I'm stumbling around a little clumsily over here.

Duzzy Funlop fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Jan 29, 2015

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

USB to DVI? :psylon:

We are living in the future.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Bob Morales posted:

17 programs with the Lenovo name in them. 17.
I prefer this over them bundling it all in one package and you getting the choice of everything or nothing.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

At least (I hope) it's not like the Yoga 2 where it doesn't work right if you remove them.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Arglebargle III posted:

USB to DVI? :psylon:

We are living in the future.

The displaylink drivers behind it are working now, but still kinda crap.

For instance, you can't colour-calibrate your monitor through them, so things like the IPS screens are utterly pointless unless the manufacturer bothers to include monitor-side colour adjustment. I'm looking at you, Lenovo: the Thinkvision Lt1423p is just four menu options (red, green, blue, gamma) short of being the usb monitor of the gods.

General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005
My partner's VAIO is a horror for bloatware. Scary thing is it's hard drive poo poo itself last night and I'm left wondering what the hell I do. It came with Win8 preinstalled and no sign of any way to make backup discs. If I really get in trouble I have a spare win8 disc / license but I don't know how much of the VAIO bullshit it needed to function and how much was just dragging it down. Seriously the thing should have been faster than the desktop (this) but it's always been really sluggish. I blamed the hard drive, but this has a win8.1 install on a WD green that I use sometimes that's lightning fast relatively speaking. I don't get it.

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

We're complaining about crappy software? Samsung wins. My laptop came with a lovely as gently caress energy saving program that made my colors look terrible when on battery. (LCDModeChecker.exe) Oh and if you try updating through Samsung Update it will change your power settings back to their plan, and probably reinstall that lovely display software that you deleted.

Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jan 29, 2015

General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005

Duck and Cover posted:

We're complaining about crappy software? Samsung wins. My laptop came with a lovely as gently caress energy saving program that made my colors look terrible when on battery. (LCDModeChecker.exe) Oh and if you try updating through Samsung Update it will change your power settings back to their plan, and probably reinstall that lovely display software that you deleted.

I'm not going to deny Samsung is pretty terrible for that. They like doing it to poor defenceless Android devices too.

The VAIO Care software is only a nuisance at least. It needs some handholding to get it to update instead of just constantly bitching about things. It also loves installing a WiFi driver that doesn't work every time it updates so it needs to be rolled back.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



General_Failure posted:

The VAIO Care software is only a nuisance at least. It needs some handholding to get it to update instead of just constantly bitching about things. It also loves installing a WiFi driver that doesn't work every time it updates so it needs to be rolled back.
My mom has a VAIO Pro 11 that has a hardware button dedicated to that software! I removed it anyway and told her that, yes, she'd have a non-functional button on her computer even though the computer was brand new.

Seriously :wtc:

sarehu
Apr 20, 2007

(call/cc call/cc)

Flipperwaldt posted:

My mom has a VAIO Pro 11 that has a hardware button dedicated to that software! I removed it anyway and told her that, yes, she'd have a non-functional button on her computer even though the computer was brand new.

Seriously :wtc:

Hell, on the Vaio Z3 it wasn't a button, it was a capacitive sensor.

Mr. Bad Guy
Jun 28, 2006
Hey goons, I'm preparing for an upcoming deployment, and I'm looking for something simple that I can use to watch porn movies and store pictures of [/s]naked women[/s] my family, and all the cool places I will see. I don't know a drat thing about laptops. A smaller size would be better, since space will be at a premium. Pretty much my only requirement is lots of space for movies, and I'd like to keep things under $500. I don't care about track pad quality or speakers, because wireless usb mouses and head phones are a thing.

I tried skimming the thread and searching amazon/newegg, but that was opening a can of worms, because seriously guys, laptops, I don't know crap about them.

Also I am a windows guy.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Seems like there haven't been many $400 laptop deals since Christmas

Fetus Tree
Feb 2, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 2 years!
Sounds like a tablet would suffice here too, tbh

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




Just sharing a couple of deals:

Samsung 11.6" Chromebook - $150

ThinkPad Twist S230u - $480

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

Wilford Cutlery posted:

Just sharing a couple of deals:

Samsung 11.6" Chromebook - $150

ThinkPad Twist S230u - $480

No one should buy that Samsung ARM Chromebook, they're very sluggish compared to anything Intel. And much more hassle if you plan to install Linux on it too.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Well, I'm officially a big idiot. I measures my hard drive and it was 3 inches, so I ordered a 3 inch harddrive enclosure. It arrived today, and of course it's too small. It is some kind of fancy SSD enclosure. It's clearly too small for a hard drive. A standard laptop hard drive is 2.5 inches, right? I measured mine and it's not, its 3x5 inches, but I guess I should order a 2.5 inch enclosure. Can anyone confirm this for me?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Arglebargle III posted:

Well, I'm officially a big idiot. I measures my hard drive and it was 3 inches, so I ordered a 3 inch harddrive enclosure. It arrived today, and of course it's too small. It is some kind of fancy SSD enclosure. It's clearly too small for a hard drive. A standard laptop hard drive is 2.5 inches, right? I measured mine and it's not, its 3x5 inches, but I guess I should order a 2.5 inch enclosure. Can anyone confirm this for me?

You have either a 3.5" or 2.5" drive. It's a big difference.



The actual drives are 4" or 2.75" wide, though.

You could fit a 2.5" SATA drive in a 3.5" adapter though.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Well it's definitely not 4 inches wide. :shobon:

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

Flipperwaldt posted:

My mom has a VAIO Pro 11 that has a hardware button dedicated to that software! I removed it anyway and told her that, yes, she'd have a non-functional button on her computer even though the computer was brand new.

Seriously :wtc:

I actually weirdly like the Vaio software, it can tell you some neat stats. I normally hate bloatware, but.. it, eh. I don't know.

Bob Morales posted:

The actual drives are 4" or 2.75" wide, though.

What? drat..

Edit: huh, for some reason that never clicked. Of course, the 3.5" described the floppy disk that went inside it, not the size of the disc drive. I mean, was there even a 2.5" disc? We're just sticking with the platter size? Why did I never think about this?

HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jan 30, 2015

Dominoes
Sep 20, 2007

Hey dudes, need a recommendation for a laptop for an extended vacation.

Requirements:
~17" screen
SSD
GPU that can play most games
Decent keyboard
Nice screen
Blu-ray drive

I'd dual-boot Ubuntu and Windows. It'd be for coding, games, reading books, and number crunching. The laptop will be mostly stationary, but I'd like it to be reasonably slim if possible.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams
17" screen is huge so just make sure you know what that means, but the Y70 would fit that.

Dominoes
Sep 20, 2007

Thanks for the Y70 rec. I currently have a 17" I'm looking to replace. It's cumbersome, but works well for stationary situations where I can't bring a desktop. I'd consider a 16".

Dominoes fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Jan 30, 2015

DNK
Sep 18, 2004

Why do you need a Blu-Ray drive. I mean, what optical media do you use? That one item will make any laptop you look at have an enormous markup and make the form factor much more unwieldy.

17" screens are also STUPIDLY huge. Unless you've had a 17" laptop before and really are that masochistic, please take my advice and stick with a 15" (which is still large). A 17" laptop practically needs specialized luggage to move and is almost entirely code for "I want a desktop".

Please lay out why you're considering a laptop at this time and for what uses. If you're going to be moving this station's location less than once per month, get a very small form-factor desktop (they have complete cases that are smaller than a loaf of bread). It will be around a third of the cost for the same performance.

If you're going to be moving it more than that, get a 15" or smaller. You're not going to want to bring a 17" into your bed / bathroom / whatever. They're enormous. Huge! GIGANTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Other than that, yeah sure it's all doable. But the Blu-ray and 17" form factor are big red flags pointing towards a desktop.

Dominoes
Sep 20, 2007

DNK posted:

Why do you need a Blu-Ray drive. I mean, what optical media do you use?
Playing Blu-Rays.

quote:

Please lay out why you're considering a laptop at this time and for what uses. If you're going to be moving this station's location less than once per month, get a very small form-factor desktop (they have complete cases that are smaller than a loaf of bread).
Extended vacation.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Did you not read the part where he said he wants to play games on vacation?

Get a Y50 and an external BD drive.

You're welcome.

Dominoes
Sep 20, 2007

External BD drive would work.

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?

Dominoes posted:

External BD drive would work. I figured by now they'd be standard.

It's not about DVD vs. Blu-Ray for "standard", it's about form factor. Lots of laptops (i.e. the y50) don't have integrated optical drives at all anymore. They take up loads of space and add expensive moving parts.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Hell an ethernet port is too tall for laptops these days.

General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005
Not sure if this is the right thread. I need to buy a hard drive. 1TB seems to be the sweet spot right now. I did discover I know jack poo poo about reliability of hard drives for notebooks.
I read that Hitachi has come into it's own in some areas of storage, but I'm not sure if laptop hard drives are inclusive. Got to say I have a hard time believing Hitachi anything is alright. I'm not married to the idea of a Hitachi drive. That's for sure. But I was considering their 7200rpm drive. The VAIO spends it's life generally tethered to mains power with the battery acting like a glorified UPS, so a bit of extra current isn't a big deal.
If anyone can recommend a better reasonably priced drive, please do.


HalloKitty posted:

I actually weirdly like the Vaio software, it can tell you some neat stats. I normally hate bloatware, but.. it, eh. I don't know.

Edit: huh, for some reason that never clicked. Of course, the 3.5" described the floppy disk that went inside it, not the size of the disc drive. I mean, was there even a 2.5" disc? We're just sticking with the platter size? Why did I never think about this?

The VAIO software is a pain in the butt. The UI needs a redesign and some work on manual installing of items.

Yes there was a 2.5" disc. I have a box of them somewhere. Not a very big box though, because a lot fit in it.

Going back to the hard drive crash. I got enough bad sectors fixed to read it in the desktop. Went and got a 2TB USB drive from the post office (it was on special) with the aim of backing up what I could from the stricken laptop drive. The loving thing died didn't it. Like all WD drives it became introspective. Quietly mumbling to itself and ignoring outside stimulus, except for a hard reset which it'd respond to with a startled chirp.

The worst part of all this is I have no idea where or if restore media exists for the laptop, and it didn't have a Win8 license sticker like every other drat thing ever. I have a spare unused Win8 pro disc / license but don't want to resort to that.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

General_Failure posted:

Not sure if this is the right thread. I need to buy a hard drive. 1TB seems to be the sweet spot right now. I did discover I know jack poo poo about reliability of hard drives for notebooks.
I read that Hitachi has come into it's own in some areas of storage, but I'm not sure if laptop hard drives are inclusive. Got to say I have a hard time believing Hitachi anything is alright.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

:ssh: Hitachi doesn't make hard drives anymore, HGST is now a subsidiary of WD.

Also HGST DeathstarsDeskstars have become good.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Get an SSD. Maybe 500 gigs.

Save the terabyte drive for a USB 3.0 external/enclosure.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Fuzz posted:

Get an SSD. Maybe 500 gigs.

Save the terabyte drive for a USB 3.0 external/enclosure.

Absolutely, yes. It's 2015, and spinning data graves hard drives do not belong inside a laptop anymore.

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Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

blowfish posted:

:ssh: Hitachi doesn't make hard drives anymore, HGST is now a subsidiary of WD.

Also HGST DeathstarsDeskstars have become good.

Yea but when I posted that, BackBlaze's blog was down. They were also requested to stop using 'Hitachi' and refer to them as HGST.

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