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woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Vorpal Cat posted:

He does realize

Haha look at what you've assumed.

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Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Who What Now posted:

What happens if the mugger is a moron who doesn't understand the argument and proceeds to shoot and rob the libertarian?

Libertarians: *choral* "Well that wouldn't happen in a properly organized voluntarist society!"

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
This is the only inevitable conclusion I can come to of what jrod's world would look like:

:ohdear:"Did you all hear? Jeff shot and killed Alan for bumping into him."
:argh:"That's horrible! We should all agree not to do any business with him to show that we won't put up with that kind of thing!"
:ohdear:"But Jeff has a contract with all the farmers around that they'll only sell to him, and the contract is still binding for another eight years... I don't think we can go that long without buying food from Jeff's store."
:argh:"Well I'll get a contract with a farmer further away."
:ohdear:"You could try but the cost of transporting the food over so many toll roads is going to be insane. I can't afford to pay the prices you'll have to charge."
:argh:"Oh. Well... I guess we do nothing?"
:ohdear:"Pretty much. Thank god we live in a stateless paradise?"
*Jeff continues to do as he pleases with impunity*

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Who What Now posted:

This is the only inevitable conclusion I can come to of what jrod's world would look like:

:ohdear:"Did you all hear? Jeff shot and killed Alan for bumping into him."
:argh:"That's horrible! We should all agree not to do any business with him to show that we won't put up with that kind of thing!"
:ohdear:"But Jeff has a contract with all the farmers around that they'll only sell to him, and the contract is still binding for another eight years... I don't think we can go that long without buying food from Jeff's store."
:argh:"Well I'll get a contract with a farmer further away."
:ohdear:"You could try but the cost of transporting the food over so many toll roads is going to be insane. I can't afford to pay the prices you'll have to charge."
:argh:"Oh. Well... I guess we do nothing?"
:ohdear:"Pretty much. Thank god we live in a stateless paradise?"
*Jeff continues to do as he pleases with impunity*

One year later most of the community has convinced themselves that Alan deserved it somehow.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

I remember when millions of abolitionists going naked Great Cotton Boycott of 1850-1862 finally brought the plantation owners to their knees and ended slavery in these United States.

burnishedfume
Mar 8, 2011

You really are a louse...

VitalSigns posted:

I remember when millions of abolitionists going naked Great Cotton Boycott of 1850-1862 finally brought the plantation owners to their knees and ended slavery in these United States.

And then in 1863, Statist Abraham Lincoln couped the US government and radically altered the US government by making it more centralized :(. Just the first step in his plan to deport all African Americans and preserve the purity of the white race in America. The brave Confederates attempted to peacefully secede, but Lincoln would not allow it, and killed 85% of the Southern population. We're lucky John Wilkes Boothe stopped his tyranny before it went too far. Imagine a grim dysopia where Lincoln lived long enough to implement universal healthcare :gop:

Vorpal Cat
Mar 19, 2009

Oh god what did I just post?

SedanChair posted:

Haha look at what you've assumed.

Sorry for assuming he was a disingenuous poo poo, instead of a willfully ignorant disingenuous poo poo.

Caros
May 14, 2008

VitalSigns posted:

Let's Read: George Reisman's Twitter. You may remember him from


and this post.



Oh yeah liberals, well if male chauvanism were real, then why aren't male chauvanists falling all over themselves to save a few bucks by hiring equally-qualified women? Riddle me that, liberals.

Man, I'm going through his twitter right now and gently caress is this revolting.

quote:

The Media Pirahnas demand that a top house republican resign because he made a speech before a racist group. Why don't they demand that Obama resign for having made the race agitator Al Sharpton an advisor on race relations?

Probably because Al Sharpton wants equality for black people, while David Duke's group supports lynching and segregation. But you know, Al Sharpton is really the same as David Duke right? What a loving rear end in a top hat.

Edit: Apparently he also supported Joe McCarthy during the red scare.

quote:

Roy Cohn and Joe McCarthy will be redeemed when the people have taken back their government from the criminal alliance of Communists, Socialists, New Dealers and the Eisenhower-Dewey Republicans.

Caros fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Jan 30, 2015

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
Ha you've DISCREDITED yourself Caros! *shits self*

Caros
May 14, 2008

He also has one where a protester is holding up a sign saying "A mother shouldn't have to worry that her son will die for robbing a store." Which he interprets as the protester being pro-robbery.

I don't know about you, I'm not pro-robbery, but I also don't think police should be killing people for a convenience store robbery. If everyone who robbed me when I worked at seven eleven ended up dead I'd have like 20+ bodies...

I really don't get how Jrodefeld can make this guy his hill to die on. George Reisman is a racist, misogynistic rear end in a top hat. He seems to think he knows better than actual scientists on subjects like global warming and evolution, and he consistently writes about the 'superiority of western culture' which is about as blaring alarm bells as you can get.

Seriously. To remind everyone, this is they guy who thinks that "Columbus discovered America" should be self evident to everyone because the primitive natives weren't doing anything with it anyways so they don't loving count.

quote:

But what best sums up everything involved is this: from now on, in the state of California, a student is to go through twelve years of public school, and the explicit goal of his education is that at the end of it, if he envisions Columbus being greeted by spear-carrying savages, and he happens not to be white, he should identify with the savages--and if he does happen to be white, and therefore is allowed to identify with Columbus, he should not have any idea of why it is any better to identify with Columbus than with the savages.

This is no longer an educational system. Its character has been completely transformed and it now clearly reveals itself to be what for many decades it has been in the process of becoming: namely, an agency working for the barbarization of youth.

The value of education is derived from the value of civilization, whose guardian and perpetuator education is supposed to be. An educational system dedicated to the barbarization of youth is a self-contradictory monstrosity that must be cast out and replaced with a true educational system. But this can be done only by those who genuinely understand, and are able to defend, the objective value of Western civilization.

LOOK AT THIS! Jesus...

Caros fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Jan 30, 2015

Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.

Caros posted:

He also has one where a protester is holding up a sign saying "A mother shouldn't have to worry that her son will die for robbing a store." Which he interprets as the protester being pro-robbery.

I don't know about you, I'm not pro-robbery, but I also don't think police should be killing people for a convenience store robbery. If everyone who robbed me when I worked at seven eleven ended up dead I'd have like 20+ bodies...

I really don't get how Jrodefeld can make this guy his hill to die on. George Reisman is a racist, misogynistic rear end in a top hat. He seems to think he knows better than actual scientists on subjects like global warming and evolution, and he consistently writes about the 'superiority of western culture' which is about as blaring alarm bells as you can get.

Seriously. To remind everyone, this is they guy who thinks that "Columbus discovered America" should be self evident to everyone because the primitive natives weren't doing anything with it anyways so they don't loving count.


LOOK AT THIS! Jesus...

Loooooooool 'distinguished economist' indeed.

I kinda hope Jrod does come back to explain why all of this is totally fine and not racist drivel at all.

Did he ever respond to the reparations discussion after it got pointed out that 9/10ths of North America was explicitly stolen from the Natives through aggression, because I remember him being all shifty about how 'you can't really know which plantation should belong to which black family so I guess we won't bother addressing it at all'

Mornacale
Dec 19, 2007

n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates
Racism is the Kevin Bacon of libertarian thought. That's why the thread always comes back to it: ultimately there is just no way to be a proponent for modern libertarianism without coming up with some defense of slavery, genocide, etc.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
I thought "race agitator" was deprecated due to being too on-the-nose.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

Did he ever respond to the reparations discussion after it got pointed out that 9/10ths of North America was explicitly stolen from the Natives through aggression, because I remember him being all shifty about how 'you can't really know which plantation should belong to which black family so I guess we won't bother addressing it at all'

It is pretty telling that a libertarian would advocate for the complete eradication of the government (causing untold massive financial and social upheaval) for no better reason than arguable moral grounds, but you can point to literal atrocities committed against entire groups of people and suddenly figuring out who got hosed the worst is just too much work :shrug:

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Caros posted:

He also has one where a protester is holding up a sign saying "A mother shouldn't have to worry that her son will die for robbing a store." Which he interprets as the protester being pro-robbery.

Ah you mean this


Which was not even the sign the real protestor was holding (fun game, find the re-used letters!).



The photoshopped version went viral among racists during the protests, but of course I'm sure a studious intellectual who wrote the best defense of capitalism in history would never libel a civil-rights activist by propagating an obviously faked photograph without even doing a cursory google search to make sure he wasn't passing on lies invented by white supremacists for propaganda.

Caros
May 14, 2008

VitalSigns posted:

Ah you mean this


Which was not even the sign the real protestor was holding (fun game, find the re-used letters!).



The photoshopped version went viral among racists during the protests, but of course I'm sure a studious intellectual who wrote the best defense of capitalism in history would never libel a civil-rights activist by propagating an obviously faked photograph without even doing a cursory google search to make sure he wasn't passing on lies invented by white supremacists for propaganda.

gently caress, I knew something about that felt wrong and now I just feel loving angry.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

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VitalSigns posted:

Ah you mean this


Which was not even the sign the real protestor was holding (fun game, find the re-used letters!).



The photoshopped version went viral among racists during the protests, but of course I'm sure a studious intellectual who wrote the best defense of capitalism in history would never libel a civil-rights activist by propagating an obviously faked photograph without even doing a cursory google search to make sure he wasn't passing on lies invented by white supremacists for propaganda.

That's loving scummy, even though robbing a store shouldn't carry the death penalty because we're not Saudi Arabia.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

StandardVC10 posted:

That's loving scummy, even though robbing a store shouldn't carry the death penalty because we're not Saudi Arabia.

Yeah that's the best part, that even when they're lying to try to discredit the protestor, they still attribute a totally reasonable opinion to him and just expect us to recoil in horror at the idea that it's wrong to summarily execute black people.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Now that Jrod seems to have disappeared, do people want to read and laugh at and critique the crazyballs libertarian blog that a guy I knew in college writes?
http://governmentdeniesknowledge.com/

Enjoy. Especially the most recent post about how slavery almost wasn't racist, it was just bad because it didn't allow for "free association".

Yup.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Ccs posted:

Now that Jrod seems to have disappeared, do people want to read and laugh at and critique the crazyballs libertarian blog that a guy I knew in college writes?
http://governmentdeniesknowledge.com/

Enjoy. Especially the most recent post about how slavery almost wasn't racist, it was just bad because it didn't allow for "free association".

Yup.

quote:

inclined to believe that most people do. I, for example, believe that The Simpsons is a superior TV show than Family Guy. Those who disagree (my girlfriend included) are simply misinformed. The truth of this claim seems so self-evident to me that those who believe otherwise are doing a great disservice to themselves, their families, and the world, by continuing to believe what they believe. As such, it is understandable why I have an impulse to say that they shouldn’t be allowed to prefer Family Guy to The Simpsons.

This sounds like a man with very well thought out opinions.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Yeah, he's a piece of work. Who thinks that he writes genius articles.

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Ccs posted:

Yeah, he's a piece of work. Who thinks that he writes genius articles.

Idiocy is only amusing when it's better developed, though. That guy is just boring and sucks. The Internet is filled with similar fellows.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Ccs posted:

Yeah, he's a piece of work. Who thinks that he writes genius articles.

Tell him the Internet said he sucks.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant
In somewhat relevant news, my Facebook feed tells me that the 13th Amendment was passed by the House 150 years ago today! Hooray statism! :woop:

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

paragon1 posted:

Tell him the Internet said he sucks.

Better yet tell him to buy an account so we can tell him ourselves.

Caros
May 14, 2008

Ccs posted:

Now that Jrod seems to have disappeared, do people want to read and laugh at and critique the crazyballs libertarian blog that a guy I knew in college writes?
http://governmentdeniesknowledge.com/

Enjoy. Especially the most recent post about how slavery almost wasn't racist, it was just bad because it didn't allow for "free association".

Yup.

As others have pointed out... he's just dumb. Its like trying to critique Iron Knuckles' blog. That said, it did bring up something I've been noticing in a bunch of Jrod's recent posts, as well as Tom Woods' godawful show. The weird libertarian idea that they are somehow speaking up against 'the man' by not being 'politically correct'. To quote:

quote:

I’m sure that this view is rather controversial. Pointing out the obvious flaws in the Civil Rights Act is a prime violation of the political correctness that has effectively become a religion in the Western world. Hell, I may be making a poor life choice by opening myself up to attack by publicly defending this view. Nevertheless, understanding this point is critical if the world is to move past slavery, racism, and violent aggression, a goal which I, Dr. Block, and most of you out there would agree with.

This isn't a matter of political correctness, its a matter of being on the wrong side of history in support of segregation and racism. Bitching about the fact that the civil rights act prohibits discrimination opens you up to attack not because you aren't being PC enough, but because you are actively supporting a return to times when blacks were told they couldn't shop in the same stores as whites, and that you are suggesting that the ability for store owners not to be able to make that choice is a bad thing.

Cemetry Gator
Apr 3, 2007

Do you find something comical about my appearance when I'm driving my automobile?
Political Correctness is one of those terms that everyone uses without having any idea what it actually means, to the point where it becomes totally devoid of all meaning. It's just some word used by people on both sides to make them seem radical and more open-minded and free-thinky than everyone else. I think if you asked 20 people to define it, you'd probably get 20 different definitions.

That's why I hate the term. It just means nothing, and it becomes a short-hand to allow people to say terribly bigoted things because hey, being PC is terrible!

As far as the blog goes, it's just boring. The thing that made Jrodefeld interesting wasn't what he was saying, it's that he was interacting with us. He rarely said anything that was so far beyond the pale that it deserves special mocking. It was that he was willing to go into the lion's den and try to debate with us, using the same sorts of arguments that were there.

Because to be honest, for the most part, I just scanned past most of what he wrote because it was just so unreadable. Between his flowery and pretentious prose, his weird use of terms like "commit acts of aggression" that don't really mean anything and sound terrible to the ear of most English speakers, and his very superficial level of knowledge, the content was pretty boring. If he was writing a Jrodefeld blog, would any of us have cared?

Now, if you can get this dude to post here, I'm game. He just better not be like that last guy that flamed out in less than 24 hours.

Caros
May 14, 2008

Cemetry Gator posted:

Political Correctness is one of those terms that everyone uses without having any idea what it actually means, to the point where it becomes totally devoid of all meaning. It's just some word used by people on both sides to make them seem radical and more open-minded and free-thinky than everyone else. I think if you asked 20 people to define it, you'd probably get 20 different definitions.

That's why I hate the term. It just means nothing, and it becomes a short-hand to allow people to say terribly bigoted things because hey, being PC is terrible!

As far as the blog goes, it's just boring. The thing that made Jrodefeld interesting wasn't what he was saying, it's that he was interacting with us. He rarely said anything that was so far beyond the pale that it deserves special mocking. It was that he was willing to go into the lion's den and try to debate with us, using the same sorts of arguments that were there.

Because to be honest, for the most part, I just scanned past most of what he wrote because it was just so unreadable. Between his flowery and pretentious prose, his weird use of terms like "commit acts of aggression" that don't really mean anything and sound terrible to the ear of most English speakers, and his very superficial level of knowledge, the content was pretty boring. If he was writing a Jrodefeld blog, would any of us have cared?

Now, if you can get this dude to post here, I'm game. He just better not be like that last guy that flamed out in less than 24 hours.

Man, Shiranaihito was such a beautiful flower. Jrodefeld is the steady candle that constantly lights up our boring evenings. Shiranaihito was the insane lunatic that poured gasoline everywhere and set himself on fire.

Edit: Oh and by the by, its probably a little late to point out now that Jrodefeld is gone forever, but my favorite factoid from my research on the OSC is that they take bitcoins, and not even 'take bitcoins' through bitpay or some other service that gives them cash. They actually take Dunning Krugerands Autism Kroner Prosecution Futures as currency. Because of course they do.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
I bought a gift certificate for this loving insane Brazilian an-cap, and he turned it down because the Dangan Ronpa 2 LP was archived a long time ago. Sorry guys :sigh:

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Caros posted:

As others have pointed out... he's just dumb. Its like trying to critique Iron Knuckles' blog. That said, it did bring up something I've been noticing in a bunch of Jrod's recent posts, as well as Tom Woods' godawful show. The weird libertarian idea that they are somehow speaking up against 'the man' by not being 'politically correct'.

Yeah this is always funny too.

Whoa hey, way to stand up to The Man by stating the not-commonly-held-and-repeated-and-believed-at-all opinion that black people are lazy and criminal and we'd be better off if they went back to Africa. You're really speaking truth to power there buddy, daring to poo poo on the most marginalized, disenfranchised, and demonized group in America. What a hero.

Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012
Just you wait until white men find their voice.

President Kucinich
Feb 21, 2003

Bitterly Clinging to my AK47 and Das Kapital

Caros posted:

... Jrodefeld is gone forever..

Don't say such terrible things.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

I bought a gift certificate for this loving insane Brazilian an-cap, and he turned it down because the Dangan Ronpa 2 LP was archived a long time ago. Sorry guys :sigh:

You know what needs to be done.

Buy him archives too.

Don't actually do this.

Karia
Mar 27, 2013

Self-portrait, Snake on a Plane
Oil painting, c. 1482-1484
Leonardo DaVinci (1452-1591)

Caros posted:

Man, Shiranaihito was such a beautiful flower. Jrodefeld is the steady candle that constantly lights up our boring evenings. Shiranaihito was the insane lunatic that poured gasoline everywhere and set himself on fire.

Don't forget the best part: he came back to tell us that he totally didn't care that we were mean to him, Jrode shouldn't listen to us because we weren't worthy, and we were just afraid of his brilliance, not even realizing his brilliance was from auto-immolation.

Goddamn, I miss him. Whoever got him on here in the first place, any chance of dragging him back? He can tell us how we're mindless sheep for not worshiping the ground that HHH and Molyneux walk on.

Caros
May 14, 2008

Karia posted:

Don't forget the best part: he came back to tell us that he totally didn't care that we were mean to him, Jrode shouldn't listen to us because we weren't worthy, and we were just afraid of his brilliance, not even realizing his brilliance was from auto-immolation.

Goddamn, I miss him. Whoever got him on here in the first place, any chance of dragging him back? He can tell us how we're mindless sheep for not worshiping the ground that HHH and Molyneux walk on.

Yeah, that was peak Shiranaihito. Where a thirty year old man posted that he totally was done with us and hadn't even read anything we'd said while quoting people verbatim. :allears:

Frankly I'm just shocked that he didn't say we smelled or something like a petulant four year old.

Caros fucked around with this message at 08:37 on Feb 1, 2015

Cemetry Gator
Apr 3, 2007

Do you find something comical about my appearance when I'm driving my automobile?
Guys, I think it's time we complete the Jrodbot.

It seems like the market is speaking!

Rockopolis
Dec 21, 2012

I MAKE FUN OF QUEER STORYGAMES BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH MY LIFE THAN MAKE OTHER PEOPLE CRY

I can't understand these kinds of games, and not getting it bugs me almost as much as me being weird
drat it, like usual it's only after the dude leaves that I come up with a better question.
I wanted to ask what the status of nuclear weapons in the libertarian future. I mean, there's still thousands of them around, and control of them is basically control of the world.
Or asking about how MAD and similar rational and intense paranoia stacks up with Libertarian conceptions of aggression and self-defense. Or even examining the concept of aggression when looking at the historical example of the Cold War, where MAD means the nuclear powers absolutely cannot commit or even appear to commit aggression on each other, so instead they export all of their aggression in a bunch of proxy wars.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

President Kucinich posted:

Don't say such terrible things.

I know it's sad, but take heart: he'll be back, some sunny day.

And if he is really gone think only this, that he lies in the corner of some foreign field that is forever Rapture.

Muscle Tracer
Feb 23, 2007

Medals only weigh one down.

When God closes a door, He opens a window. From the 'pos Bitcoin thread:

Eripsa posted:

Synereo is about to do it's fundraising drive for the month of February. It'll be fun. I'll probably do a real thread in D&D when we go live to handle the influx of marbles.

The tl;dr is that we're building something pretty interesting. Our core technology isn't built on the blockchain and uses an entirely different method for proof of identity and distributed networking. But there's a mechanism by which users can convert a native reputation score into a blockchain-based coin and 'cash out' their social currency.

I'm only working with the group peripherally. I wrote some stuff on the white paper and I've been involved in some of the discussions and planning. The rest of it is being handled by people who appear to be professionals, for whatever that's worth. Our main tech guy is a legit mathematician and programmer who worked for a major software company for many years. He has a working prototype of the core technology, which basically can do anything Ethereum does but better and without any stupid cryptocurrencies. The funds we raise will go to polishing the UX and bringing the service live.

ITS HAPPENING

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Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

Muscle Tracer posted:

When God closes a door, He opens a window. From the 'pos Bitcoin thread:

Did he ever say anything once he realized Tor was a hub for CP distribution?

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