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StandardVC10 posted:This thread moves way too fast now. There's no way I can hope to read like 90% of the posts here Just read the last page and start posting.
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quote:Dick Cheney was a class act, contrary to popular belief My soon to be father in law.
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Jan 31, 2015 14:48
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welcoem to the New Model WDDP also condolences to ExclamMarx on the modship.
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Chuck Johnson followed me on twitter. 
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Chuck Johnson followed me on twitter. you know what you have to do
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I see he's holding off on revealing the top secret reason Romney isn't running that only he knows until early next week.
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Jan 31, 2015 16:07
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Because no one else can figure out Romney said crazy poo poo to stay in the headlines long enough to put out feelers for donors.
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Jan 31, 2015 16:10
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No, man, there's a TOP SECRET thing and it totally involves his earlier story about Jonathan Gruber.
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Jan 31, 2015 16:11
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Let me guess, because that's what Chuck Johnson does: Jonathan Gruber is secretly Obama's former gay lover, but Obama won't return his phone calls since he became POTUS and so saying the mean things he did about Obamacare was a way to get back at Obama, which is the real reason Obama and Romney exchanged snarky twitter replies, and it hurt Romney's feelings so he decided he didn't want to run for president.
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Jan 31, 2015 16:30
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There's got to be a racist angle in it too, like Gruber secretly makes all the decisions for Obama because he's naturally predisposed to have a higher IQ.
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Jan 31, 2015 16:35
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american politics suck u all suck
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Stop the Scrotes posted:american politics suck -sincerely, someone governed by tony abbott
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Jan 31, 2015 16:46
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Best of luck Aussie drop-in, please try not to drink yourself to death over the next 20 ish months
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Jan 31, 2015 16:47
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I don't keep up with either auspol or nzpol threads, could someone give me a primer? Also what is a good drink pairing for posting in each.
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Jan 31, 2015 16:49
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He actually loves in Burma so I guess he'd prefer if we solved our political issues with pogroms
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Berke Negri posted:I don't keep up with either auspol or nzpol threads, could someone give me a primer? chocolate milk
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XyloJW posted:He actually loves in Burma so I guess he'd prefer if we solved our political issues with pogroms oh is he a sexpat or is Burma the wrong country for that
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Berke Negri posted:I don't keep up with either auspol or nzpol threads, could someone give me a primer?
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:oh is he a sexpat or is Burma the wrong country for that going off of seinfeld myanmar's vice is opium
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Jan 31, 2015 16:55
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Berke Negri posted:I don't keep up with either auspol or nzpol threads, could someone give me a primer? Auspol: they've elected the Australian George W. Bush. They are imprisoning immigrants/refugees in offshore concentration camps, they've outsourced the guards of these camps to Sri Lankan war criminals, and they are proud of this and both their major parties support this policy fully. They are buying shitloads of f-35's while dismantling their Universal Health Care system due to a budget shortfall that's less than the cost of one f-35. NZ pol: sheep and movie taxes, I guess? Who cares.
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Is the average aussie voter completely oblivious to US history 2000-2008?
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joeburz posted:Is the average aussie voter completely oblivious to US history 2000-2008? no but juliar!!!!
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nah you guys are alright i just wanted to use my new av australia is basicallydoing our best to become early 2000s USA but with extra racism and illegla imprisonment of refugees instead of enemy combatants. We elected the neoliberals and now everyone has realised they made a big mistake but we had a new election today where a state government, who last time got a record breaking swing towards them, lost government with a record breaking swing against them new zealand isn't really a "thing", you know? i think they had an election recently but im not sure btw xylo auspol is an absolute shitshow today sorry, between the election, and then raptorfag turned up, and me and avs have been drinking it's not pretty
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i'm still disappointed in australian labour's decision to depose my waifu, julia gillard
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joeburz posted:Is the average aussie voter completely oblivious to US history 2000-2008? basically we swing from violently hating one incompetent government, to immediate disenchantment with their successors, which then turns into violent hatred again by the time the next election comes around
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I've outsourced it to New Zealand
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XyloJW posted:Auspol: they've elected the Australian George W. Bush. They are imprisoning immigrants/refugees in offshore concentration camps, they've outsourced the guards of these camps to Sri Lankan war criminals, and they are proud of this and both their major parties support this policy fully. They are buying shitloads of f-35's while dismantling their Universal Health Care system due to a budget shortfall that's less than the cost of one f-35. Good. 
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Jagchosis posted:i'm still disappointed in australian labour's decision to depose my waifu, julia gillard yeah, i get that
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I weep for Australia's collective liver.
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Joementum posted:I see he's holding off on revealing the top secret reason Romney isn't running that only he knows until early next week. Dude sobered up and realized you don't break news on a Friday afternoon
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Jan 31, 2015 17:09
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TOP SECRET: "Holy poo poo am I tired of running through an emotional wringer and continuously losing"
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Jan 31, 2015 17:09
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Oh also Queensland elected the conservatives, who immediately started making sweeping laws to stamp out motorcycle gangs ( ), such as one that makes it illegal for 3 members of a gang to meet in public and another that makes it illegal to have gang tattoos.
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Jan 31, 2015 17:14
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I knew I was in a good bar one time when I walked in at three in the afternoon and all the shades were drawn. This was further confirmed when I saw the sign "NO BIKER COLORS" behind the bar. Cemented when a white dude in a vest and bandana opened the front door, to which the leathery old bartender yelled "BOB, BOB. YOU KNOW YOU AIN'T S'POSED TO BE IN HERE." I stayed for a few.
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:Still qalnor  Berke Negri posted:I don't keep up with either auspol or nzpol threads, could someone give me a primer? Antifreeze.
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Berke Negri posted:i would much rather dump a gazillion dollars into fixing mexico than dealing with europe to be honest have the mexican states ratify the us constitution. XyloJW posted:Oh also Queensland elected the conservatives, who immediately started making sweeping laws to stamp out motorcycle gangs ( next thing you know they'll be banning jukeboxes Nintendo Kid fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Jan 31, 2015 |
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I'm going to steal zoux's thunder, stick my neck out, and share my probably unpopular Absurd Opinion: I understand why "illegals" is considered a slur, and why "illegal immigrant" also creates unwarranted prejudice (especially with those who have been brought to the US as children, and therefore committed no crime themselves), but I think "undocumented" is an intentionally misleading term for people who either breached US immigration law/sovereignty by crossing the border or overstaying a visa or whatnot, or whose parents did so and took them with them. I think it purposefully obfuscates the ostensible problem people have with them (living and working in the US without having gone through the legal channels for residency and/or naturalization, and bypassing US immigration laws in the process), and presents it as a problem of paperwork. But what would "documentation" mean? It's not like having a document stating "On 4/15/2007, this person illegally crossed the Mexican-American border into the US, and has since been working here without legal authorization" would help, would it? Getting it would just document the fact that this person should, according to US law, be deported. The main issue here is that the law is being violated. Whether that's because the law is badly written and unfairly implemented (as I believe), or whether it's because those people are trying to subvert the United States of Anglosaxonia (as the deportation-happy crowd think), using euphemisms to obscure this fact is not going to lead to a solution, and it removes the very possibility of having an honest conversation about this subject. For example, it makes it hard to set aside those who are seeking asylum, for example, because the language of "undocumented" unfairly conflates two different situations, so the whole argument becomes entirely about emotion rather than what the law is or should be. What do y'all think? And what would be a better term than "undocumented"?
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"US citizen", since there's no reason why they shouldn't be.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I think it purposefully obfuscates the ostensible problem people have with them (living and working in the US without having gone through the legal channels for residency and/or naturalization, and bypassing US immigration laws in the process), and presents it as a problem of paperwork. Why can't it be a problem of paperwork? The problem isn't that these people are in the united states, they just serve as a scapegoat for an angry electorate while being exploited by capital without receiving most of the benefits of their labor.
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Eat the rich ten million times over before pushing away one poor person.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I'm going to steal zoux's thunder, stick my neck out, and share my probably unpopular Absurd Opinion: I don't know if you can have an honest conversation regarding immigration in the US without dealing with the fact that US Immigration laws foundation is literally racism.
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