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Joementum posted:Primaries Joe, am I correct in remembering that a brokered primary was how Eisenhower got the nod in 1952?
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Acrophyte posted:Joe, am I correct in remembering that a brokered primary was how Eisenhower got the nod in 1952? Yes. Nixon convinced the CA delegation to flip from Earl Warren on the train to the convention.
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Jan 31, 2015 01:26
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Joementum posted:Yes. Nixon convinced the CA delegation to flip from Earl Warren on the train to the convention. Why did they have to argue at all when Eisenhower was basically a guaranteed winner?
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Jan 31, 2015 01:29
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Just be thankful they did. Bob Taft was basically Ron Paul before it was cool. His platform was undoing the entire New Deal.
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Badger of Basra posted:Why did they have to argue at all when Eisenhower was basically a guaranteed winner? Ike was barely a Republican
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Jan 31, 2015 01:34
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Lockback posted:Ike was barely a Republican Ike was the best Republican president since Lincoln.
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comes along bort posted:This is pro-click as gently caress youse guys. Get in on that poo poo. loving owned, RE: dude who was excited for Romney in this.
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:loving owned, RE: dude who was excited for Romney in this. 
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Jan 31, 2015 02:33
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Poor Romney. Not willing to spend any more of his fortune on the one thing he knows he can't buy.
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Jan 31, 2015 02:48
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Mitt Romney: Assistant Secretary of Dog Transportation
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Mitt never had anything to offer as VP. e: I take that back, he could balance Rubio. But Rubio's going to be bald by 2016
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SedanChair posted:Mitt never had anything to offer as VP. He's going to be a better Lex Luthor than Jesse Eisenberg.
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Jan 31, 2015 04:24
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SedanChair posted:Mitt never had anything to offer as VP. "And so my fellow Americans-" *awkwardly applies Rogaine via plastic dropper*
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Jan 31, 2015 05:00
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 The national primary scene is going to eat that hairline alive through stress hormones. He should have started to get it repaired a few years ago as soon as his national ambitions took hold. Its too late now to show up to the debates after taking two weeks out of the spotlight with a picket fence of sore-looking plugs. He cannot change his cut until he fixes his harline. But when he looks in the mirror he still somehow sees this:  Which allows him to cling to it and not feel weak or open to attack if he gets a transplant. But if he is going to stay bald he needs to hurry up and drop the schoolboy vibe and switch over to this cut to minimize the silly poufyness and stop looking like he's hiding something. 
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Jan 31, 2015 05:22
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Who is the last bald/balding president we've had?
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Jan 31, 2015 05:25
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Il Federale posted:Who is the last bald/balding president we've had? Gerald Ford, probably.
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shadow puppet of a posted:He cannot change his cut until he fixes his harline. But when he looks in the mirror he still somehow sees this: It isn't true, Marco. Alright? Take it from me.
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ThirdPartyView posted:Gerald Ford, probably. Okay, now what about the last one who was actually elected?
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Wanamingo posted:Okay, now what about the last one who was actually elected? lbj or eisenhower, depending on how much you want to qualify "bald" the question for the christie campaign is when was the last time we had a fat president? Taft?
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Jan 31, 2015 05:50
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H W was balding in much the same way Rubio is.
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QwertyAsher posted:lbj or eisenhower, depending on how much you want to qualify "bald" Depending on how you define fat, Clinton. He was never morbifdly obese, but when first elected, he loved junk food. Probably the only president who left the presidency healthier than when he entered it. Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Jan 31, 2015 |
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Jan 31, 2015 06:08
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I'll miss Romney. In a field of cranks and psychopaths, he was an everyday oligarch who just wanted to buy his family a presidency for Christmas. 
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Peel posted:In a field of cranks and psychopaths, he was an everyday oligarch who just wanted to buy his family a presidency for Christmas.  _obituary.txt
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Jan 31, 2015 06:41
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Joementum posted:Just be thankful they did. Bob Taft was basically Ron Paul before it was cool. His platform was undoing the entire New Deal. He is the namesake of the Taft Act, and its evil correct?
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Jan 31, 2015 07:44
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Fulchrum posted:Depending on how you define fat, Clinton. He was never morbifdly obese, but when first elected, he loved junk food. Probably the only president who left the presidency healthier than when he entered it.
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Jan 31, 2015 07:53
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And I don't think any president leaves the job healthier really; it's an incredibly stressful job. Just look at those before/after presidency makeover photos.
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Hence why I said only. He completely revamped his diet and started excercising while president. He looks a lot better than any other 8 year president.
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Jan 31, 2015 10:07
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Joementum posted:Before the 1972 McGovern primary reform balloted primaries weren't run in most states and even in those where they were most of the time the delegates weren't pledged to a campaign. That meant that the state party chairman, an influential politician, and union leaders hand picked their delegates and could speak for the entire delegation. This was also the tail end of the age of machine politics where most of the delegates owed their employment to the party leaders. An example of how this worked was at the '68 RNC where Strom Thurmond, who controlled multiple Southern state delegations, was being courted by both Nixon and Reagan (Rockefeller was trying too, but Thanks, I really need to reread about how McGovern actually got nominated. I've read two different accounts of the '72 DNC and still have only a vague understanding of what happened there because of how complicated it was.
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Strom was never going that way). Nixon handed him a list of possible VPs and Strom picked Agnew. Nixon also pledged not to mandate busing federally.
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Fulchrum posted:completely revamped his diet and started excercising What a pussy lol
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Jan 31, 2015 12:42
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Here's a Canadian analysis of Sarah Palin's speech The Author supports Carson getting the Nom, mainly because us Canadians love comedy, and wanna see the far right lose so bad.
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MariusLecter posted:What a pussy lol Eh his fatass diet did get him a heart attack, didn't it
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baw posted:Thanks, I really need to reread about how McGovern actually got nominated. I've read two different accounts of the '72 DNC and still have only a vague understanding of what happened there because of how complicated it was. After the disaster of the '68 DNC, McGovern led the committee to reform how Presidential nominations are conducted, giving us the current system of caucuses and primaries in each state with pledged delegates. He then went on to us the system he invented to win the nomination. There was also Ted Kennedy doing the thing Elizabeth Warren is doing this year where everyone was begging him to run and he'd keep saying he wasn't, but leaving the door open juuuuust enough that people kept assuming he'd jump in. Except that Kennedy would have mopped the floor in the nomination if he actually had run.
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Jan 31, 2015 16:42
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The really confusing part was the floor fight that Thompson covered in FaL on the Campaign Trail '72.
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Joementum posted:After the disaster of the '68 DNC, McGovern led the committee to reform how Presidential nominations are conducted, giving us the current system of caucuses and primaries in each state with pledged delegates. He then went on to us the system he invented to win the nomination. Is Warren leaving the door open, or does everyone keep trying to pry it open?
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Gyges posted:Is Warren leaving the door open, or does everyone keep trying to pry it open?  Warren says eggs she ate this morning were a little runny!
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Gyges posted:Is Warren leaving the door open, or does everyone keep trying to pry it open? Yeah, my reading is almost certainly a no, though I think she'd consider the VP spot. Lockback fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Jan 31, 2015 |
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Lockback posted:Yeah, my reading is almost certainly a no, though I think she'd consider the VP spot. By "your reading", do you mean the part where she was asked if she was going to run and her response was a straightforward "No."? 
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Joementum posted:After the disaster of the '68 DNC, McGovern led the committee to reform how Presidential nominations are conducted, giving us the current system of caucuses and primaries in each state with pledged delegates. He then went on to us the system he invented to win the nomination.
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Nessus posted:Why didn't Ted get in? I'm guessing it has something to do with two of his brothers being mysteriously assassinated. More to do with getting drunk, driving off a bridge, and leaving a woman in the car to die.
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