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What is this Hardhome adventure speculation based on again?
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Jan 31, 2015 22:33
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Maarak posted:What is this Hardhome adventure speculation based on again? I remember there was rumor about Jon being at Hardhome on Watchers a few weeks back. And the trailer seems to show a Wildling army fighting at a snowy coastal town, and there's a part of the trailer where you can hear Jon shouting "With me!"
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Jan 31, 2015 22:38
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I wouldn't be upset if they skip the stabbing, especially if Jon is just going to be brought back
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Jan 31, 2015 22:39
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My official guess would be the battle will be interspersed with cuts of Melisandre walking naked on the wall for some reason.
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Jan 31, 2015 22:40
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bobjr posted:My official guess would be the battle will be interspersed with cuts of Melisandre walking naked on the wall for some reason. That's the easiest guess you can possibly make.
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Jan 31, 2015 22:41
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Steve2911 posted:On the other hand, everything they've added with Brienne, Pod, Arya and Sandor (including their fight) was wonderful. Even the megabrothel in the first two seasons was full of good stuff, even if it was mostly stupid ("Play with her arse"). Eh, I don't know. When Jaime and Ned had that duel in Season 1 I was pretty annoyed and almost stopped watching, because that's not how that scene happened in the books. Sure it was cool to watch, but completely made up for the sake of television. Same thing with Brienne and Sandor's fight. Fun scene that actually never happened.
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Jan 31, 2015 22:43
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"Cool to watch" is the most important thing. You have to either accept that or you be mad until you decide to stop watching.
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Jan 31, 2015 22:45
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Steve2911 posted:That reminds me that he hasn't even been elected LC yet. If he's going to be stabbed at the end of the series there's so much poo poo to get through. Someone got hold of the script for episode 1 and summarised plot-points in a facebook post (spoilers obviously) back in August. People assumed it was bullshit but it contained a line from the trailer and the serpent/necklace thing that would have been impossible to guess. More of the leaked script ( EP2 or EP3 perhaps): -2)A short scene where Jon Snow is elected Lord Commander of the Night’s Watch. That was expected.
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Jan 31, 2015 22:46
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enraged_camel posted:Fun scene that actually never happened. God, I don't know how to break this to you...
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Jan 31, 2015 22:49
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Lycus posted:My official guess is: I think Marsh & Co are basically committing suicide if they do that, the reason they stop Jon in the books is because Jon is leading the Watch to certain doom while at the same time breaking one of the most important vows. I reckon the stabbing will be for the same reasons.
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Jan 31, 2015 22:50
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Lycus posted:"Cool to watch" is the most important thing. There's already plenty of cool stuff in the show. Re-writing dialogues is fine, but I don't want them to rewrite entire scenes or invent new ones. Just rubs me the wrong way, that's all.
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Jan 31, 2015 22:57
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enraged_camel posted:There's already plenty of cool stuff in the show. Re-writing dialogues is fine, but I don't want them to rewrite entire scenes or invent new ones. Just rubs me the wrong way, that's all. So... I take it you never saw the other three seasons?
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Jan 31, 2015 22:58
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meristem posted:What were the most ridiculous theories in the past seasons? I remember 'Tyrion doesn't kill Shae', 'Talisa is a spy'... what else was there? Something about Locke? Anyhow, I consider 'Sansa turns into Lady Stoneheart (whether literal or figurative) on par with those. Back in Season 2, some people on Winteriscoming theorised that Dagmer Cleftjaw was actually Ramsay Snow in disguise. This was because there was no casting news for Ramsay, Dagmer would fill the same corruptive role for Theon as Ramsay, Dagmer Cleftjaw didn't have a cleft jaw and because Ramsay originally disguised himself as Reek. There was also something about Dagmer's tunic with the Kraken sigil being ripped or 'flayed'. People believed it because this was back when the show followed the books pretty closely and also people wanted it to be true. It was pretty dumb.
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Jan 31, 2015 23:00
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Steve2911 posted:So... I take it you never saw the other three seasons? I skipped Season 2 and 3, yeah. Only recently watched Season 4, and I agree with your assessment that it was basically a rollercoaster ride of awesome stuff and terrible stuff.
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Jan 31, 2015 23:02
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enraged_camel posted:There's already plenty of cool stuff in the show. Re-writing dialogues is fine, but I don't want them to rewrite entire scenes or invent new ones. Just rubs me the wrong way, that's all. But would there be plenty of cool stuff if they strictly adapted Feast and Dance? Again, a lot of fans think those books are poo poo and that's why they don't mind hefty cuts and changes. It's possible that a strict adaptation would please you and a handful of superfans of those two books, but turn off most people. That would be bad.
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Jan 31, 2015 23:05
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I think they're pretty decent with inventing standalone scenes (Tywin/Arya, Brienne/Sandor fight, etc.). Their track record for filler plotlines (Yara 'rescue', Gin Alley) however, has been atrocious.
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Jan 31, 2015 23:14
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mr.capps posted:Potato Kid has greatly improved the GoT universe and I can't wait to see what he does in this season. 
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Jan 31, 2015 23:32
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His name's Olly.
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Jan 31, 2015 23:40
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Gin Alley guy was great and I will drink from the skulls of anyone who disagrees. You think he knew how to make a skull into a cup already, or he had to practice on some of the other corpses lying around first to figure it out?
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Jan 31, 2015 23:43
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When you been on the mean streets of Gin Alley that long I think you learn a thing or two about skull drinking.
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Jan 31, 2015 23:44
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mr.capps posted:When you been on the mean streets of Gin Alley that long I think you learn a thing or two about skull drinking. 
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Feb 1, 2015 00:13
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The main thing that bugs me about the Gin Alley plot is that Westeros doesn't have distillation. It's like having someone come from Gunpowder Alley.
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Feb 1, 2015 00:20
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It's actually Jean Alley. Westeros doesn't have distillation, but they have denim.
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Feb 1, 2015 00:21
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If Westeros lacks distillation, where does strongwine come from?
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Feb 1, 2015 00:26
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Maybe they meant gin as in Gin Rummy 
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Feb 1, 2015 00:28
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Lycus posted:It's actually Jean Alley. Westeros doesn't have distillation, but they have denim. loving Levi of loving Jean Alley.
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Feb 1, 2015 00:28
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It's Djinn Alley. Where wishes come true.
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Feb 1, 2015 00:36
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Steve2911 posted:It's Djinn Alley. Where wishes come true. Aw, if only, then all the people who came into the thread after Robin Williams died and bizarrely proclaimed they wished he had been on GoT would've had their wish.
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Feb 1, 2015 00:44
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I tried thinking of what role Robin Williams could possibly play, only to realize he could play anyone. The less it fits, the better.
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Feb 1, 2015 02:19
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Maarak posted:If Westeros lacks distillation, where does strongwine come from? Stronger yeast, more sugar? You can make some fairly potent drinks without distillation. 26% ABV is not unheard of from simple fermentation.
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Feb 1, 2015 02:32
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Dolash posted:I tried thinking of what role Robin Williams could possibly play, only to realize he could play anyone. The less it fits, the better. The Kindly Man.
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Feb 1, 2015 02:32
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Besides Needle does she even have anything worth a drat? The scene in the book has her tossing away stuff she's gathered in her various guises, they can make some poo poo up for her to throw away that connects with a few of her adventures. I'm kinda disturbed by the shot of Sansa in a tub; I know Sophie Turner is like 19 now, but the character had explicitly been said to be 14 on the show. It would be creepy if they start sexualizing her now.
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Feb 1, 2015 03:34
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twistedmentat posted:but the character had explicitly been said to be 14 on the show. I don't know why they did that. Before that line, I think the show felt like it was one year per season, and I was cool with that.
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Feb 1, 2015 03:41
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Midnight City posted:That shared reading app where you can put indentations in parts of books to see what other people were thinking at the same time was only ever worth it for three parts that I used it in, Darkstar's 'of the night' which was just a sea of "LOL", 'the north remembers' a wall of 'whoa' and Varys' speech made for no reason that was all 'uhhhhh'
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Feb 1, 2015 04:14
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Lycus posted:I don't know why they did that. Before that line, I think the show felt like it was one year per season, and I was cool with that. The books feel like its been a few months since Ned's execution to, I don't know, Kevan's murder. The show feels a lot longer as you said. Dany is like 13 in the books, while the show they just haven't mentioned her age.
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Feb 1, 2015 04:20
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meristem posted:What were the most ridiculous theories in the past seasons? I remember 'Tyrion doesn't kill Shae', 'Talisa is a spy'... what else was there? Something about Locke? Anyhow, I consider 'Sansa turns into Lady Stoneheart (whether literal or figurative) on par with those. Also, that Ros would be the Arya imposter seeing as there was no Jeyne Poole. For some reason that was really popular despite being incredibly stupid.
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Feb 1, 2015 04:22
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It's kind of best to just go MST3K mantra on the age and timeline stuff, there just isn't anything they can do besides keep it fuzzy since the kids are just gonna keep aging like crazy. They cast more with the first season in mind, and they did an amazing job of it. If they went any younger, the kids would not have had the acting chops for the roles. I think only Bran really seems like he aged totally out of the role for suspension of disbelief. I can deal without sexualizing Sansa for sure though, but I don't think there's much need to freak out over a potential bath scene that I assume isn't going to show anything.
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Feb 1, 2015 04:26
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twistedmentat posted:The books feel like its been a few months since Ned's execution to, I don't know, Kevan's murder. The show feels a lot longer as you said. But the books actually have taken place over about two years so far. Robb was 14 when the series began and 16 when he died IIRC.
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Feb 1, 2015 04:30
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Beeez posted:But the books actually have taken place over about two years so far. Robb was 14 when the series began and 16 when he died IIRC. The first book took place over the course of a year but I think the others were a lot shorter timeframe. Yeah, apparently the first book begins in 298 and ADWD ends near the end of 300, so about three years.
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Feb 1, 2015 04:32
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computer parts posted:The first book took place over the course of a year but I think the others were a lot shorter timeframe. I thought Joffrey's wedding coincided with the new century
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