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I need some input guys. I'm just starting to put together how I'm going to order Convergence for my store. As a regular DC buyer, do you think you'd buy a Convergence book if you already buy the normal series it corresponds to? For instance, if you buy Batman and Robin regularly do you think you'll pick up Convergence: Batan and Robin?
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Jan 28, 2015 20:59
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Rhyno posted:I need some input guys. I absolutely wouldn't on my own end. On the opposite end of the spectrum I would be likely to pick up a Convergence for a series I don't usually read if I like the concept.
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Jan 28, 2015 21:06
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Rhyno posted:I need some input guys. If the character-based strategy doesn't work, maybe just a little survey card with those 4 eras (and the weekly) as checkboxes you ask people to fill out while you ring their DC books up?
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Jan 28, 2015 21:19
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Space_Butler posted:I'm the kind of idiot that's traditionally bought all the issues of the September events, even if I didn't read the book. That said, with convergence, I'm only going to be sticking with the "era" releases I want, though it'll probably be across the board regardless of character. So I'm definitely buying everything from the Pre-Flashpoint DCU, and the Zero Hour era, but I'm most likely not buying anything from the pre-crisis or CoIE universes. So for me, just week 1 and 2. I'm doing full checklists for every preorder customer, I'm totally lost on what to get for the stand outside of Batman books. Some of these are absolute garbage but who knows, hey may sell. Thankfully, with how the final order cutoff works I have plenty of time to adjust my orders. We were just discussing how DC is a powerhouse in sales for us right now and this is going to probably wreck that for us. Rhyno fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jan 28, 2015 |
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Jan 28, 2015 21:27
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I dunno. I would look at the creative teams and see which are popular with your customers. More specifically, I'd look at the artists and buy those people like plus maybe by the better writers. I hate to be negative, but I think you're going to get hosed on this no matter how you do it and at best you're going to spend a lot of time to get mediocre results. Like, I think you're better off leaving money on the table by under-ordering things that might be surprise hits than losing money by over-ordering things that are likely to be garbage.
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Jan 28, 2015 21:31
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Endless Mike posted:I dunno. I would look at the creative teams and see which are popular with your customers. More specifically, I'd look at the artists and buy those people like plus maybe by the better writers. I hate to be negative, but I think you're going to get hosed on this no matter how you do it and at best you're going to spend a lot of time to get mediocre results. I really don't see much as far as creators that's going to jump out and appeal to N52 fans (my bread and butter). And you're not being negative, you're being realistic. Thankfully DC has been very reorderable of late, very rarely is something unavailable after a few weeks. I'm seriously thinking a few as 5 copies of some of these.
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Jan 28, 2015 21:39
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Everyone gets the Rucka Question issue. That's all you have to do.
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Jan 28, 2015 21:43
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I'm just going to be requesting certain titles and asking them to hold/cancel the previous titles I picked up before convergence until the whole thing is over.
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Jan 28, 2015 22:06
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Stock Shazam with a sticker saying "From the team behind Flash Gordon which was short lived because you're all cretins. Yeah, you. Pick up a good comic for once in your life. Jordie Bellaire, people!"
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Jan 28, 2015 22:07
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Madkal posted:I'm just going to be requesting certain titles and asking them to hold/cancel the previous titles I picked up before convergence until the whole thing is over. I wish every customer would do this but walk-in is like 75% of my comic sales right now.
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Jan 28, 2015 22:26
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redbackground posted:Everyone gets the Rucka Question issue. That's all you have to do. Is that out yet?
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Jan 28, 2015 22:43
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Trast posted:Is that out yet? April 8 in the pre-Flashpoint wave.
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Jan 28, 2015 22:50
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Rhyno posted:I need some input guys. This is pretty bad for my comic shop because I probably buy 15+ DC books per month now, and obviously that's getting cut by about 75%. The shop is a DC shop, too, so the owner was telling me he's a little worried about sales for those 2 months where all the DC buyers could potentially be buying a small % of what they normally buy, or even nothing if they're the type who skip events.
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Jan 28, 2015 23:39
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Dunbar posted:I'm going to put only the Convergence title itself on my pull list and then I'm going to grab whatever else looks interesting off the shelf as it comes in (if anything comes in, I think the owner of my LCS is as confused about what to order as everyone else). I started reading comics with the New 52, so I don't have any nostalgia or affection for all the older era titles, which makes it pretty tough to get interested in anything outside the main Convergence series. DC is absolutely loving this up, I don't see a single one of these even making the top 25 sold. It's like they want to destroy their market share for 2015.
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Jan 28, 2015 23:43
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Rhyno posted:DC is absolutely loving this up, I don't see a single one of these even making the top 25 sold. It's like they want to destroy their market share for 2015. On the plus side, I guess they can say 'nobody wants to read about Cassandra Cain/Renee Montaya/Underpants Supes'!  This is not actually a good thing.
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Jan 29, 2015 00:43
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Yvonmukluk posted:On the plus side, I guess they can say 'nobody wants to read about Cassandra Cain/Renee Montaya/Underpants Supes'! Didio will no doubt use that down the line.
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Jan 29, 2015 00:49
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Rhyno posted:I need some input guys. I'm planning on it but not because I'm reading Tomasi's B&R but rather because I was reading it before the New 52 as well.
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Jan 29, 2015 01:44
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As far as Convergence goes, you can expect Week One to be very popular because it's basically the era people have been griping about the most since new 52. Stephanie, Renee, Superman/Lois, Oracle, Wally, and so on and so forth. If any Convergence books crack Top 30, I would bet on the Week One books over the others. The other eras may be hit or miss because most of them would appeal more to older readers and diehard fans. I think asking people to survey when they come in for purchases is a good idea if most of your buyers are walk-ins. And don't forget the main Convergence comic because that's the one that will actually use New 52 characters and setting in the middle of the tie-ins.
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Jan 29, 2015 02:46
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Rhyno posted:DC is absolutely loving this up, I don't see a single one of these even making the top 25 sold. It's like they want to destroy their market share for 2015.
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Jan 29, 2015 04:42
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Here's Superman's new costume. The belt is better at least, don't know what they were thinking with the fingerless gloves though. 
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Feb 1, 2015 03:25
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Dacap posted:Here's Superman's new costume. The gloves almost make it look like the suit is going to slowly cover him and he's in pain because of it.
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Feb 1, 2015 04:56
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Belt change gives the suit some needed cohesion to makeup for the red underwear, but man the fingerless glove things look really silly. It looks like they're attached to the sleeves and not on their own either, which is even sillier. Also it looks like the way his cape is attached is slightly different, but I wish they got rid of the turtle-neck collar look.
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Feb 1, 2015 05:13
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Cool, superman's got holes cut in his long-sleeve thermal. Now all he needs is some JNCOs and he's ready for 9th grade.
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Feb 1, 2015 05:20
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lotus circle posted:Belt change gives the suit some needed cohesion to makeup for the red underwear, but man the fingerless glove things look really silly. It looks like they're attached to the sleeves and not on their own either, which is even sillier. Also it looks like the way his cape is attached is slightly different, but I wish they got rid of the turtle-neck collar look. The all red belt was my biggest problem with the previous suit too (outside of the unnecessary suit lines).
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Feb 1, 2015 05:31
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I was kind of expecting a bigger change on the suit given how it was hyped. Assuming that is the new suit and not just a red herring of course.
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Feb 1, 2015 05:33
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I've been waiting for something interesting enough to justify such a significant change from the version that's defined the character for ~70 years. Still waiting.
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Feb 1, 2015 05:43
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I mean, can't he already mentally control how the suit looks?
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Feb 1, 2015 05:45
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Shazam's suit in Future's End has unironically been the best New 52 Superman getup.
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Feb 1, 2015 06:05
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The fingerless gloves are so distracting. Why does he have them?
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Feb 1, 2015 06:10
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I'm more concerned by his 6 fingers on his left hand. That's just a godawful illustration from the top down.
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Feb 1, 2015 06:14
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redbackground posted:I'm more concerned by his 6 fingers on his left hand. Whose father is he going to kill?
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Feb 1, 2015 06:16
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ImpAtom posted:The fingerless gloves are so distracting. Why does he have them? Buy Superman #38 this week for just $4.99 to find out! Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Feb 1, 2015 |
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Feb 1, 2015 06:18
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Teenage Fansub posted:Buy Superman #38 this week for just $4.99 to find out!
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Feb 1, 2015 06:38
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lotus circle posted:Are they serious? Batman could get away with that for Endgame's first issue because it's already the top selling comic DC is putting out, but Superman sells at half of Batman's numbers at the same price. Its the final issue of Johns and Romita's arc. Its the same price as an annual and they release those for even less selling books.
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Feb 1, 2015 06:42
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redbackground posted:I'm more concerned by his 6 fingers on his left hand.  Romita's art is just bad in general, but he seems to have a problem with Supermen in particular.
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Feb 1, 2015 06:55
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:I was kind of expecting a bigger change on the suit given how it was hyped. Assuming that is the new suit and not just a red herring of course. Yeah, seriously. Honestly I probably wouldn't have even noticed the costume changed if Dacap hadn't pointed out the changes.
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Feb 1, 2015 07:04
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Teenage Fansub posted:I'm only half way through the story and 11/52 Earth bios, but if you've ever been a DC fan, you ought to pick up the Multiversity Guide Book. Holy crap I cannot wait for this to come out in trades (I hope this gets included) Dacap posted:Here's Superman's new costume. I find the way his ribs look for too distracting
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Feb 1, 2015 07:41
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So hey good news: they're not finger-less gloves. They're just hand-armor.
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Feb 1, 2015 08:50
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Now I miss them 
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Really? I wasn't aware of that. Quilted armour made of layered and hardened wool and linen, was in use in Europe at least since the late Antiquity. Rather effective but hot and heavy. Under every coat of steel/iron armour you also usually wore a padded and quilted cloth suit too. Cloth armour wasn't exactly something novel for the European invaders. Only something that has fallen out of fashion, because it was associated with armour for poor people.
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