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I'm pretty sure that natural death can happen even in a character's 20s or 30s, though of course it's much rarer--the death message will say "died of poor health" if the character was under 40 rather than "died a natural death". If there's a difference between the two other than that, I've never noticed it. At first I thought "poor health" was only for Weak characters but that definitely isn't the case, it appears to be for characters under 40 that randomly die.
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Excelzior posted:..so your absolute last day of life is predetermined, but you can die early at any moment after 30? and health ensures the "early" death event won't fire? There's no predetermined date, it just becomes more and more likely until it happens.
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There's a bunch of code in defines.lua that determines the likelihood of random death at various age points. If you lower the "natural death" number, you can essentially just make it very unlikely for people to die of natural causes at all. These are the default values.
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Feb 1, 2015 00:37
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A fourth Ramadan Ramadan. God that is a common name. Zunbil's still chugging away.
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Jaramin posted:There's a bunch of code in defines.lua that determines the likelihood of random death at various age points. If you lower the "natural death" number, you can essentially just make it very unlikely for people to die of natural causes at all. Those are the base valued though for the random number generator, your health is the biggest contributor but that is mostly hidden in the code. Also Eric is correct, if you are young it will say poor health if there are no obvious cause behind the death.
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Groogy posted:Those are the base valued though, your health is the biggest contributor though. Makes sense--those values must be heavily modified by your health score, even if your health is like 7.0 your chances of dying a natural death at some point during your 60s are way higher than 4%. I guess "died of poor health" is better for immersion than "died because lol dark ages" 
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Feb 1, 2015 01:14
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Eric the Mauve posted:Makes sense--those values must be heavily modified by your health score, even if your health is like 7.0 your chances of dying a natural death at some point during your 60s are way higher than 4%. Dammit phone too slow to type, you quoted me before I could fix my post  But yeah you can kindofish control your death date with health. There's still a rng put in but it's not that strong in comparison to age and health. Which is why the super healthy exploit works so well.
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Feb 1, 2015 01:17
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Just married my demon-spawn child to the Caliph's daughter. 
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Just married my demon-spawn child to the Caliph's daughter. Why is this good.
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Knuc U Kinte posted:Why is this good. Islam just got infiltrated by the Antichrist, and you're asking why this is entertaining.
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Jedit posted:Islam just got infiltrated by the Antichrist, and you're asking why this is entertaining. he's not gonna inherit anything so what's the big deal? the Caliph got himself a tremendously powerful commander (prob 30+ martial) is about all that's gonna happen
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Feb 1, 2015 01:49
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This is my first time getting the demonspawn event and injecting the son of Iblis' bloodline into the Prophet's (PBUH) sounds loving cool, okay? God you guys have no imagination...  Zunbil continues it's conquering spree and the Ethiopians are embracing Samaritanism. Eastern Europe is Balkanizing like crazy.
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Is there any reason I can't form the Persian Empire? I only recently got Mesopotamia, but I've had three out of five kingdoms for most of the game and haven't been able to form it. The option just isn't coming up. I dunno why my piety is so low either. 
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Feb 1, 2015 03:04
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MinistryofLard posted:Is there any reason I can't form the Persian Empire? I only recently got Mesopotamia, but I've had three out of five kingdoms for most of the game and haven't been able to form it. The option just isn't coming up. Also, you're not Zoroastrian or Zunist, so that's a bit of a problem on an aesthetic level. Only religions starting with a Z should be allowed to form Persia.
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Feb 1, 2015 03:18
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Tanist wins Jerusalem in a crusade, gives it so his young son. Tanist dies. Son converts to local culture, spends 50 years nursing a grudge against the new Tanist, then comes back invade Ireland. So, that's how the Catholic Bedouins ended up invading the UK. I love this game. 
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Feb 1, 2015 03:41
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:Tanist wins Jerusalem in a crusade, gives it so his young son. Tanist dies. Son converts to local culture, spends 50 years nursing a grudge against the new Tanist, then comes back invade Ireland. So, that's how the Catholic Bedouins ended up invading the UK. I love this game. I feel like leaders of independent crusader states convert to local culture way too quickly.
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Feb 1, 2015 05:24
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Anyone know how to make it so that reformed pagans can send missionaries? I found some code on Paradox's forums, but it seems to have altered in the past 1.5 years.
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Feb 1, 2015 05:28
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The Bolghars have taken over both Bulgaria and Bolghar. Plus the Byzantium Empire is falling apart as well.
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Feb 1, 2015 07:15
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Wow, the winter mechanic introduced with the Charlemagne patch has somehow made the Mongols even more obnoxious to deal with. I didn't think that was possible. These "No attrition" event troops are really the worst idea in this game.
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Jamsque posted:I feel like leaders of independent crusader states convert to local culture way too quickly. I'm also not sure if Athens should flip to Bedouin and Damietta to Norse five years from conquest.
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Feb 1, 2015 14:07
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What's the best mod for adding flavor to a "Restore Pagan Rome" run? I seem to recall poo poo that would let you follow the bloodlines of ancient romans, but I don't even know where to look in the Steam workshop.
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Feb 1, 2015 15:14
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Pope keeps declaring Crusades, and nobody except me shows up. I'm okay with this.  Also, the Golden Horde were hilariously pissweak. They showed up, took some poo poo off the Seljuks, then sat there stranded deep in Seljuk territory waiting for the peace treaty to run out. Not sure if their event troops died out or depspawned, but they've only got 2k left and they own basically nothing. Ilkhanate are carving a slow path through the Abbasids- they're down to about 55k. It looks like they're going to run out of steam around the time they hit the still-ridiculously-powerful Byzantines.
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Feb 1, 2015 15:44
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I just had a year in which i switched focus to hunting, and my depressed ruler not only became not-depressed, but also finally stopped being arbitrary and took up patient. I assume this is just RNG, but does hunting-focus increase the chance of those events firing? Because that would be fabulouuuus.
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Feb 1, 2015 20:36
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:Pope keeps declaring Crusades, and nobody except me shows up. I'm okay with this. I wish that was the case in my last game. The Ilkhanate conquered westward all the way to the Red Sea and still had about 115k troops at the end. The Golden Horde stopped right around eastern Europe despite having something like 90k troops. It wasn't until they fought each other that the Ilkhanate incurred any substantial losses, getting knocked down to about 65k. I could match the Ilkhanate in numbers, but their horse archers still beat the snot out of my armies while I hardly made a dent in theirs. Then they converted to Nestorianism (I have no idea how) and I lost all desire to continue fighting them without the holy war CB.
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Spakstik posted:Then they converted to Nestorianism (I have no idea how) and I lost all desire to continue fighting them without the holy war CB. I believe there is an event that fires if the hordes are still unreformed tengri. Them going Christian is the best way to curb their expansion.
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Edison was a dick posted:I believe there is an event that fires if the hordes are still unreformed tengri. Does it pick a denomination at random? My "I have no idea how" came from Nestorianism being long extinct at that point in the game, unless there was a courtier somewhere who'd been clinging to it for centuries. I've seen them go Sunni before, but that made sense historically and contextually, given that they'd just plowed through a sizable chunk of the Muslim world.
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MinistryofLard posted:Is there any reason I can't form the Persian Empire? I only recently got Mesopotamia, but I've had three out of five kingdoms for most of the game and haven't been able to form it. The option just isn't coming up. Like Strudel Man said, you need 80% of its de jure territory. This includes all the land to the east of the Caspian Sea (modern Turkmenistan, etc.), which is probably what's stopping you. e: looking at that screenshot again, basically you should be good as soon as you take all the Hazaraspid's stuff.
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Spakstik posted:Does it pick a denomination at random? My "I have no idea how" came from Nestorianism being long extinct at that point in the game, unless there was a courtier somewhere who'd been clinging to it for centuries. I've seen them go Sunni before, but that made sense historically and contextually, given that they'd just plowed through a sizable chunk of the Muslim world. Nestorian Christianity was prominent among the Mongols at that time, so in the sense "what happens outside the map goes exactly as in real history", it makes perfect sense.
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I started as a minor Jewish noble in the Abbasid dynasty. Whenever my liege lord loses a religious war, it effects the Jewish religious authority. I think this is a bug? I don't see how a Sunni king losing religious wars effects the moral authority of a subject religion? Is there anything I can do about this? It has made the task of converting problems different, to impossible.
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Diogines posted:I started as a minor Jewish noble in the Abbasid dynasty. You would never crack 50 moral authority either way until you reform Israel. At best you'd be converting a province every 100 years despite controlling the Arabian Empire. Don't even worry about it.
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Spakstik posted:Does it pick a denomination at random? My "I have no idea how" came from Nestorianism being long extinct at that point in the game, unless there was a courtier somewhere who'd been clinging to it for centuries. This happens. The Paulicians usually have an official religious head despite there not being a single Paulician county on the map at any point in history that I know of.
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Feb 2, 2015 01:58
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Buddhist Mongol Empire is absolutely amazing.
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Feb 2, 2015 02:03
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The real Mongols were famous for their religious tolerance. While they held onto their traditional animism, they didn't give a poo poo who their subjects worshipped, so long as they did their jobs. That would be an interesting mechanic to work into the game.
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Does anyone know any good guides for playing as a vassal? I didn't realize how much EVERYONE plays as an Emperor or something until I started trying to find out how to play as a vassal. I started as the Sunni Nahua duke of Mosul at the CM start, and I need to rip the Abassid blob apart from the inside so I can use that sweet invasion CB to clean up the mess. I got my hands on some sweet holdings, but crown law went to medium really quick, so I can't press claims against other vassals, and I have no idea what to do aside from waiting.
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Guide to playing as a vassal: Don't. It's pointless. Your kingdom's crown authority will go to medium within 30 years and after that you will be completely unable to do anything. (Serious answer: Check out The McD's Vassal LP in the megathread?) (Fakeedit: Actually the first thing I said WAS the serious answer. In my opinion vassals being unable to fight each other should be High Crown Authority, and raising Crown Authority should be a lot harder than it is.) Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Feb 2, 2015 |
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It's worst in the Byzantines where the second you get a second duchy, literally everyone else lines up to fight you. I'm not too worried about it because the Abassids seem to fall apart every game at some point now. Worst comes to worst, I'll just console the caliph 100 decadence until they collapse. McD's what in which thread?
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Mongol conversion is basically just random chance - there are five conversion events available for the Ilkhanate and Golden Horde, and whichever is the first to happen in the span of time they're allowed, happens. They have different probability per religion, though, and per title. Ilkhanate catholic 1440 orthodox 960 sunni 420 shiite 420 nestorian 420 Golden Horde catholic 960 orthodox 480 sunni 420 shiite 420 nestorian 1440 Since these are mean times to happen, the probability of a given conversion is essentially inverse to the numbers here. Ilkhanate is most (and more or less equally) likely to go Sunni, Shiite, or Nestorian - though the first actually more probable in practice, since the MTTH is reduced by 25% if their current capital is the religion in question. edit: You know what I think bothers me the most about the tribal mechanics? It's the fact that it makes settled lands essentially uninhabitable to you. Plus the weird restrictions on granting titles. I actually just started a game as the mongol empire in the appropriate bookmark, and after conquering Persia, not only can I not move out of my tent out in the steppe, but I can't even give the title to anyone. Certain county titles can't be handed out either. Maybe it's a bug or something, but it's annoying as hell, and doesn't feel like it has any kind of historical authenticity to it. And of course, for the ones you do give out, you get the -30 'wrong government type' penalty. Just feels, ugh. Dumb. Giving away land you've conquered to your sons should not be this big of a headache. Strudel Man fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Feb 2, 2015 |
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Being constantly raided is getting really irritating in my game. I've got most of coastal Wales as my demesne and it's an endless parade of pagan morons disembarking for the promise of loot. Except, I've got 3000 Longbowmen in the mountains, so all that happens is the bearded idiots land and their 50% morale means they can't escape the inevitable doomstack that obliterates them to the last man. And yet, still they persist. Good grief, do they persist. I've probably wiped out the population of medieval Scandinavia twice over at this point.
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