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Shaggar posted:java is only worth using if you want the best tools, languages, frameworks, and the most money.
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Soricidus posted:both are good choices. go c# if you only want to work on windows, java if you want to do linux stuff as well. why would you ever want to work on windows
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:why would you ever want to work on windows
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:why would you ever want to work on windows because its the best os
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cj'ing linux is a black hole of terrible. much worse than cj'ing windows.
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also for web stuff the current asp.net stack is lightyears better than everything else.
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Blinkz0rz posted:cj'ing linux is a black hole of terrible. much worse than cj'ing windows. this indicates that you have a bright future ahead of you, working for $9/hr
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Shaggar posted:also for web stuff the current asp.net stack is lightyears better than everything else. like everything worth using, it runs on linux
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:this indicates that you have a bright future ahead of you, working for $9/hr lol
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windows shops have higher headcount per server, but very similar personnel costs you do the math
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poo poo, you're a windows guy, i will have to do the math for you: $9/hr
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i don't necessarily come down on either side of the debate. i like both windows and linux for their merits i guess what i'm saying is "fight amongst yourselves" also looking for good java books if there are any suggestions
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Jan 31, 2015 16:56
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Blinkz0rz posted:also looking for good java books if there are any suggestions if you have never written any java before, the official oracle docs aren't terrible http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:this indicates that you have a bright future ahead of you, working for $9/hr how do you say "fries are up!" in powershell?
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effective Java by Bloch is the best then do Java Concurrency in Practice by Brian Goetz
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Subjunctive posted:how do you say "fries are up!" in powershell? code:
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fart simpson posted:
thanks, Alex
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thalex
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:if you have never written any java before, the official oracle docs aren't terrible i have. i'm looking for more advanced stuff Janitor Prime posted:effective Java by Bloch is the best thx!
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Blinkz0rz posted:i don't necessarily come down on either side of the debate. i like both windows and linux for their merits here's the thing: almost every company has both linux and windows, but they are very deeply siloed. you usually don't get to straddle the line, or pick them "on their merits" (windows has no merits) nobody sits down and says "well this new application will be .net because foo and bar." they either give it to the .net dev team, or the java dev team. the apps and servers are deployed by the windows ops team, or the linux ops team. it's a pretty bad job where you touch both. that's honest to god sh/sc computer janitor territory. if you want to make money, you specialize
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:here's the thing: almost every company has both linux and windows, but they are very deeply siloed. you usually don't get to straddle the line, or pick them "on their merits" (windows has no merits) yeah that's what i've been learning lately i've been a generalist for the last 5 years and while i get paid ok right now i know i could make quite a bit more elsewhere if i'd specialize a little bit more
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Subjunctive posted:thanks, Alex youre welcome
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windows has lots of merits, like being good
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praise from bloody
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Blinkz0rz posted:cj'ing linux is a black hole of terrible. much worse than cj'ing windows. 
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Soricidus posted:both are good choices. go c# if you only want to work on windows, java if you want to do linux stuff as well. it might be different in your city but over here 90+% of the enterprise type java jobs are all Windows not counting Android of course
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i like looking up these terrible companies with terrible craigslist ads on glassdoorquote:* idiotic management with zero tech experience (hello your entire product is tech) quote:Pros: The nice part is that you will meet people from other really good firms and then you can go work at those. quote:Questionable ethics. Employee computers loaded with spyware to monitor usage (key logging, screen recording, network interception, etc). CEO seems to be bi-polar with extreme swings in mood and affect. Lots of great people that seem broken by the company and just accept their lot in life, like this is the normal way you run a company. quote:Never in the 10 years serving my field have I ever seen so many employees be hired to be fired after only a few months, but not before they're degraded in front of their peers, HR breeches confidentiality and jokes are passed around just before and after the fact.
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When I see a company with a bunch of bad reviews, then one or two glowing reviews, I always wonder if the glowing reviews were written by execs, or what.
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CPColin posted:When I see a company with a bunch of bad reviews, then one or two glowing reviews, I always wonder if the glowing reviews were written by execs, or what. they always are
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you've never seen one where all the good reviews are from people that all seem to work in HR?
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quote:The owner is a one man shop . There is one org chart, the owner, below sits everyone else. You are expected to work long hours, if you are a member of the 42:30 club then you are nothing. You are considered a warrior if you stay late. Completing job assignments is just not enough, if you just sit there after 5:30 pm you are considered a hero. Since you are putting the hours in, playing online poker or video games as long as you are in front of a monitor screen you should be golden and will mostlikely be promoted. One of the worst management of people I've seen. People working in factories probably are treated better. This company tries to be hip by offering free sodas, the benefits are bad to average. PTO don't even think about asking for vacation, you are considered an enemy for asking and will be personally attacked for just thinking of vacation. You are also not allowed to have a personal life, no work life balance. Do not dare to have outside activities, the company IS your sole purpose. If you want to work for a place that treats you like you are sub human and insult you and blame you for management's decision, please apply. vs quote:You will always be challenged to produce the best of what you have. Their is no room for complacency, which is awesome because when you become complacent, you get bored and lose skills. Geographic Solutions is a fun company to work for and has a great group of developers to work with. or even worse quote:There were almost no opportunities to advance within Autoloop, especially if you weren't part of the 'Church of Scientology' group. Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Feb 1, 2015 |
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What's the best way to do C# on a mac? On mono do I get all the same frameworks like ASP.NET MVC? I don't want to spend money
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mono claims to support asp.net but i have never used it from reading their site you don't get WPF, WCF, and .net 4.5 async stuff is lovely Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Feb 2, 2015 |
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virtualize windows or bootcamp
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Flat Daddy posted:What's the best way to do C# on a mac? On mono do I get all the same frameworks like ASP.NET MVC? write some java which is like 80% the same anyway
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nancyfx runs fine on mono and is better than asp.net anyway. at least until vnext.
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these wacky names are going out of hand
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NickFendon posted:nancyfx runs fine on mono and is better than asp.net anyway. at least until vnext. quote:The super-duper-happy-path
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Flat Daddy posted:What's the best way to do C# on a mac? On mono do I get all the same frameworks like ASP.NET MVC? upgrade your os to windows and then get the free version of vs 2013
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Flat Daddy posted:What's the best way to do C# on a mac? On mono do I get all the same frameworks like ASP.NET MVC? learn java instead
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