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TehKeen
May 24, 2006

Maybe she's born with it.
Maybe it's
cosmoline.


It's so recons can carry a secondary weapon.

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Gerbil_Pen
Apr 6, 2014

Lipstick Apathy
The MG42 has been slaughtered with the nerf bat again. The recoil is much worse and the gun is significantly less useful at med-long range. I did not mess around with different mods though, so that might be necessary if I ever care enough to try it.

The movement was odd... Seemed like people were changing directions abruptly and were jittery. Using the mounted mg on the kub was different as well. Seemed too jittery to use.

I assumed it was my machine, but I confirmed the MG42 and mounted Kubel gun issue with a friend.

In-game chat text was changed to some small squashed scribble ... But it's ok, that's never worth reading anyhow.

Also, neither of us could hear grenades (I think that's a known bug? A pretty loving lovely bug).

Overall, I am happy for the update. It apparently pissed off enough people such that there are no queues for any ATs on the RTS map, so it's actually playable.

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
I played last night after the patch, and the modded mg42 didn't seem too different. However, Thompson was no longer a headshot machine at 50 meters like before. The cone of fire definitely got enlarged, not sure by how much.

I've heard sticky grenades when they landed on my tank, but no "thunk" sound of a mine being placed. That poo poo needs to get fixed

Bondematt
Jan 26, 2007

Not too stupid
Does the game still charge you like a billion funbucks for using a Schreck or AT grenades?

Gerbil_Pen
Apr 6, 2014

Lipstick Apathy

Bondematt posted:

Does the game still charge you like a billion funbucks for using a Schreck or AT grenades?

Yes for schrek, I don't notice if it's as bad with stickies. Nothing beats anti-personnel mines.

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
A single bazooka shot is like $700, not sure about shreck. Sticky grenades are expensive, but not as bad as AP mines. Which is understandable, because how else do you stop people from planting those things everywhere like Johnny Appleseed?

I've witnessed some bizarre behavior by pubbies before, but this one takes the cake. On a skirmish map, we can middle objective building, this guy whips out Tellermines and begins to set them inside the building. Like 2-3 together, in a pile.

"Dude, they don't explode when infantry walks over them"
"No, they will"
"No, they won't. Watch this" said I while standing on his mines
"Oh, but I'm just going to shoot the mines"
"Umm... why not the shoot the infantry instead of the mines? Problem solved"

Silence. Then it's "clank", "clank", "clank" as more mines get set in the same tiny room. "gently caress it" said I, and just fired at the pile

Gerbil_Pen
Apr 6, 2014

Lipstick Apathy
It's actually not a terrible idea on small caps. Spread a few out, when they get on point, shoot one from afar, BOOM, chain reaction.

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
it wasn't a small cap, just a small room. With 3 friendlies inside, setting up for defense. Definitely not a place to do it

Resource
Aug 6, 2006
Yay!
Are people actually using the mumble and I just play at lovely Euro times, or is it just not really being used? Playing solo is wearing thin in the fun department.

wjs5
Aug 22, 2009

Resource posted:

Are people actually using the mumble and I just play at lovely Euro times, or is it just not really being used? Playing solo is wearing thin in the fun department.

I tried a couple times but I was literately the only one in channel for 5 or more hours.

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002

wjs5 posted:

I tried a couple times but I was literately the only one in channel for 5 or more hours.

I check the H&G channel and then drop into Warframe, because everyone is playing a different game while drinking heavily over there. Come join, today is Jagermeister day :)

Gerbil_Pen
Apr 6, 2014

Lipstick Apathy
So, Russians confirmed. The Germans will not be pincered between the two - they are expanding the map, and making it so each faction has 2 fronts. They've also arranged it so it will be pretty difficult to wipe one faction out completely without already having met the capital control requirement, which ends the war.

Last, and most interesting: there will be three-way FPS battles... that will add a lot to the basic gameplay. Also, it hints at an expansion to the players-per-map. 18 vs 18 vs 18? Or, do they keep the max 36 and split it proportionally between the three?

Jimlit
Jun 30, 2005



I just want more planes :(

Gerbil_Pen
Apr 6, 2014

Lipstick Apathy

Jimlit posted:

I just want more planes :(

The Russians are getting a plane, but since I am not a war buff I have no loving idea what it was called.

DatonKallandor
Aug 21, 2009

"I can no longer sit back and allow nationalist shitposting, nationalist indoctrination, nationalist subversion, and the German nationalist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious game balance."
It'll almost certainly be an IL-2 since that's the russian plane of the war and fights the role they have in the game (fighter bombers).

Artless Meat
Apr 7, 2008



It's probably going to be a Yak of some kind.

Triple A
Jul 14, 2010

Your sword, sahib.

Artless Meat posted:

It's probably going to be a Yak of some kind.

Yak-9, to be specific. I can already hear Wehraboos cry about it.

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
Germany is just getting steamrolled, pretty much every war. What happened? Looking at the stats, they seem to kill more tanks, infantry and planes.

I've waited until rank 14 to jump on recon bandwagon, and holy poo poo, what a special place. Most fellow recon are idiots who spent money on a scoped rifle kit, failing to even learn the maps, spawn, objectives etc. It's infuriating to see a recon guy peering into the scope, looking wishfully into the distance, while a point 5 meters behind him is getting capped. Some of them, however are hardened veterans, who won't hesitate to come back with mines, MGs and bazookas when the fighting gets too close. I've joined one such battle, where few other recon guys were obviously on teamspeak. We've steamrolled the map, while the infantry were too busy getting hosed.

The recon scoped rifle definitely transfers to my infantry guy, eh? Because I'm out of there as soon as that's confirmed. There is no recon-specific advance tree, thank jeebus

Gerbil_Pen
Apr 6, 2014

Lipstick Apathy
The only reason I'd switch my recon lvl 17 back to infantry would be for the command points. Giving a moded scoped rifle to infantry is appealing though... But I don't want to try it. Reto can take months to reply to tickets.

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
So, for those wondering, the rifle carries over, but the upgrades are locked out. I don't use mods, so it's not an issue for me personally.

And yeah, I only went back because command points and having infantry squads is way more useful. Also, playing infantry brings in more money, exp and warfunds.

Haas anyone made it to general via direct progression yet? Does all your gear go into the common poll, from which you can distribute among the lesser troops? Do you earn credits/warfunds when your squads are fighting?

Gerbil_Pen
Apr 6, 2014

Lipstick Apathy

Nitrox posted:

So, for those wondering, the rifle carries over, but the upgrades are locked out. I don't use mods, so it's not an issue for me personally.

And yeah, I only went back because command points and having infantry squads is way more useful. Also, playing infantry brings in more money, exp and warfunds.

Haas anyone made it to general via direct progression yet? Does all your gear go into the common poll, from which you can distribute among the lesser troops? Do you earn credits/warfunds when your squads are fighting?

My first soldier ever made general last week. All his gear is in the common gear pool and can be assigned to any any soldier piece by piece as log as the unlock on the soldier is met. I don't think I earn credits but I certainly earn WFs at a decent rate.

If I did not love my recon I'd switch him to infantry for those two extra infantry ATs... So tempting. But, getting those damned recon badges again will never happen (the one that removed kill cam and te other one that reduces spotting to 1 sec)

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
You get recon badge progress as an infantryman much faster by capturing points. Mine was like rank 8-9 when I finally switched over.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I might touch this lovely game again when they release the Soviets. Specially if the three way thing is true.

Gerbil_Pen
Apr 6, 2014

Lipstick Apathy

Nitrox posted:

You get recon badge progress as an infantryman much faster by capturing points. Mine was like rank 8-9 when I finally switched over.

I've been working on the last rank with my recon forever. To be fair, I don't play recon all that frequently, but at this rate will have it max level in about a year.

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
Switch to infantry and get it in a week. Recon badge is for capturing points, not for playing as recon the class.

Check this out:

Standard issue war map, right?



But, let's look over there, in currently contested Crimea...



Oh. What's that?

All of the non-war maps and battles take place in Crimea, folks. Not sure why, but that's kinda hosed up

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Mans posted:

I might touch this lovely game again when they release the Soviets. Specially if the three way thing is true.

That'd be cool fighting the Americans as the Russians. I'd play them every war.

Gerbil_Pen
Apr 6, 2014

Lipstick Apathy
Seems like they are handling the RTS portion differently with assaulting/defending a city and resource allocation.

Long story short: they are pooling all similar ATs, and all ATs on a city become locked in combat. If a soldier dies, it is randomly deducted from an AT in that specific pool. If a kill is scored, it is randomly assigned to one of the AT owners in the pool of the player-type that did the killing.

This is supposed to help so that entire ATs don't get drained and that it spreads out more evenly.

I like it, though I will miss sending in my ATs to make crazy WFs on heavy armor hunting. Winning games will become more important, who knew?

http://www.heroesandgenerals.com/community/18814/timoshenko-update-resource-pooling

N17R4M
Aug 18, 2012

Because yes we actually DID want that land
Just started playing this a few hours ago, got myself a halftrack, decided to go all fancy and have an AT weapon on the back for infantry. Pubbies in my first few matches seemed to be relatively intelligent, shoot enemy receive reward.

Took all of one match until pubbies started grabbing the panzerfaust and immediately shooting my halftrack in the arse. When's the peak time for goons on mumble?

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002

N17R4M posted:

Just started playing this a few hours ago, got myself a halftrack, decided to go all fancy and have an AT weapon on the back for infantry. Pubbies in my first few matches seemed to be relatively intelligent, shoot enemy receive reward.

Took all of one match until pubbies started grabbing the panzerfaust and immediately shooting my halftrack in the arse. When's the peak time for goons on mumble?
You're on allies, aren't you? The amount of griefing, deliberate team killing and immediate stupidity is disproportionately higher on allied side, in my experience. The german teams are not immune to stupidigy either, but with added bonus of people typing "heil hitler" in chat instead of GG.

Don't put AT on the APC, you won't need it as much as you need the resupply crate. Slap AT on your jeep instead. Arm yourself with a faust at spawn, then drive to where enemy tanks are. You can jump out, fire the first panzerfaust and immediately grab another from the back of the car, firing it within seconds. That kills most light tanks right there. If you own a bazooka, that gives you 3 shots in rapid succession, which will take out a medium tank or tank destroyer. Do it enough times and enemy tank commanders will be rage quitting in no time

Best bet for mumble is to put goons on a friends list in game, then login to mumble when you see them online. The in game chat loving sucks and there is no voice comms, which is probably for the best.

My ingame handle is "notagoodplayer" and "shpolsky", who are you?

Edit:
Since we don't have a Verdun thread, the game just received a massive update, read about it here
http://steamcommunity.com/games/242860/announcements/detail/191737529902073200

For those who don't know, Verdun is a WW1 trench warfare shooter, currently in Alpha status. It drops to like $2-5 on steam once in a while. Worth every penny. http://www.verdungame.com/

Nitrox fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Feb 14, 2015

N17R4M
Aug 18, 2012

Because yes we actually DID want that land

Nitrox posted:

You're on allies, aren't you? The amount of griefing, deliberate team killing and immediate stupidity is disproportionately higher on allied side, in my experience. The german teams are not immune to stupidigy either, but with added bonus of people typing "heil hitler" in chat instead of GG.

Don't put AT on the APC, you won't need it as much as you need the resupply crate. Slap AT on your jeep instead. Arm yourself with a faust at spawn, then drive to where enemy tanks are. You can jump out, fire the first panzerfaust and immediately grab another from the back of the car, firing it within seconds. That kills most light tanks right there. If you own a bazooka, that gives you 3 shots in rapid succession, which will take out a medium tank or tank destroyer. Do it enough times and enemy tank commanders will be rage quitting in no time

Best bet for mumble is to put goons on a friends list in game, then login to mumble when you see them online. The in game chat loving sucks and there is no voice comms, which is probably for the best.

My ingame handle is "notagoodplayer" and "shpolsky", who are you?

Edit:
Since we don't have a Verdun thread, the game just received a massive update, read about it here
http://steamcommunity.com/games/242860/announcements/detail/191737529902073200

For those who don't know, Verdun is a WW1 trench warfare shooter, currently in Alpha status. It drops to like $2-5 on steam once in a while. Worth every penny. http://www.verdungame.com/

Yesh, going allied was my first mistake. Almost at the third rank there. Clawing my way up there on the German side, and my games with the Germans have been much smoother and less team-kill-y.

n17r4ms ingame.

BeigeJacket
Jul 21, 2005

Nitrox posted:

Since we don't have a Verdun thread, the game just received a massive update, read about it here
http://steamcommunity.com/games/242860/announcements/detail/191737529902073200

For those who don't know, Verdun is a WW1 trench warfare shooter, currently in Alpha status. It drops to like $2-5 on steam once in a while. Worth every penny. http://www.verdungame.com/

Been pondering about getting this for a while, but wasn't sure if anyone was playing. Presuming, from the positive tone of your post, that there is and I should just shut up and dive in?

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
We don't have an active community or anything but the game is loads of fun to jump in and just shoot dudes in the face. Or drop nerve gas on them, whatever works for you :D

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Oh my god. You can attach M1A1 mines to the front of the Jeeps hood. Ramming speed detonates it and the tank. The era of Jihad Jeepin begins :getin:

N17R4M
Aug 18, 2012

Because yes we actually DID want that land

Great Beer posted:

Oh my god. You can attach M1A1 mines to the front of the Jeeps hood. Ramming speed detonates it and the tank. The era of Jihad Jeepin begins :getin:

It's Battlefield 1942 all over again.

I've discovered that people can't report you for driving over your landmines, but you still get a penalty for it. Which rather sucks if you plant a lot of landmines.

Is the PzShreck worth lugging around instead of landmines & grenades?

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Not from what I can tell. M1a1 mines cost almost nothing and even when dropping them everywhere I still rarely use more than 1.6k credits. Which is two or three bazooka shells that, odds are, won't kill a tiger 2.

Also further testing has revealed the jihad jeep to be wildly inconsistent. And it doesn't seem to work at all on light tanks. :(

Great for freaking out teammates though.

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
Soviet update is live.

Za rodiny!

Gerbil_Pen
Apr 6, 2014

Lipstick Apathy
About drat time.

N17R4M
Aug 18, 2012

Because yes we actually DID want that land
Server keeps making GBS threads itself though, and you get logged out when you die.

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
Read about all the changes here

http://forum.heroesandgenerals.com/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=31823

From running a training mission with my new comrade, I've noticed that sniper scope now has an idle creep and tokarev pistol takes two headshots to put a deserter down.

quote:

Weapon name is the name the player has renamed his weapon to
Can't wait to kill people with MY MASSIVE COCK

Nitrox fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Feb 23, 2015

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Gerbil_Pen
Apr 6, 2014

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Nitrox posted:

Read about all the changes here

http://forum.heroesandgenerals.com/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=31823

From running a training mission with my new comrade, I've noticed that sniper scope now has an idle creep and tokarev pistol takes two headshots to put a deserter down.

Can't wait to kill people with MY MASSIVE COCK

Weapon names always seemed like they were for nothing. Are you saying that the weap names now show up in the upper right corner in the kill log?

If so, I have some naming to do.

e: never mind... servers down for the night apparently.

Gerbil_Pen fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Feb 24, 2015

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