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Aurain posted:The BBC had an article up yesterday basically going over what we'd already seen from his editor saying 2015 is a no-go for Winds. What? I'm sure the Wit and Wisdom of Butterbumps will be published.
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Aurain posted:The BBC had an article up yesterday basically going over what we'd already seen from his editor saying 2015 is a no-go for Winds. cool
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Feb 1, 2015 20:09
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He needs to crank out a stream-of-consciousness entry in the series to slow the show down.
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Aurain posted:The BBC had an article up yesterday basically going over what we'd already seen from his editor saying 2015 is a no-go for Winds. They meant Guild Reckoning 2016. Ghola after ghola will be made until one finally coughs up TWoW.
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Feb 2, 2015 02:51
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Kavak posted:They meant Guild Reckoning 2016. Ghola after ghola will be made until one finally coughs up TWoW. Not even the God worm could get a book out of the grrm.
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Feb 2, 2015 05:41
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:Not even the God worm could get a book out of the grrm. Gurm-Emperor of Dune: "The creeper has not written!!"
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Feb 2, 2015 09:14
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Lets recap where people are in the series to give them an idea of how there is no hope for Gurm: Bran: met Bloodraven, any new scene would be OC Jon: became LC and met his new buddy Stannis, so halfway done Theon: still Reek, becoming Theon again should be a nice parallel to Arya becoming No One this season Arya: is already on snake way to train under King Kai before the saiyans arrive Brienne: already in uncharted, better territory Sansa: no longer Alayne, same boat as Bran Jaime: same as Brienne Cersei: might have a season-and-a-half's worth of content Dorne: iirc Myrcella got her scar already so this is likely going to be all OC Sam: gonna have a great sex scene this season, and the end of dance for him would make for a nice cliffhanger Tyrion: high likelihood of divergence and OC this season based on leaked material Dany: doubt she's gonna poo poo on tv, so probably gonna diverge into OC as well
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Feb 2, 2015 14:06
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I like how Sansa was Alayne for the duration of a whole episode until she basically screamed "MY NAME IS SANSA AND MY LIFE SUCKS." The clip makes me feel like they're going to jam her into the Lady Stoneheart role, with Littlefinger insisting she go for BLOOD AND VENGEANCE.
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Feb 2, 2015 14:23
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savinhill posted:Gurm-Emperor of Dune: "The creeper has not written!!" Someone post the Grrm-sandworm.
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Hogge Wild posted:Someone post the Grrm-sandworm. Someone should rewrite Dune with spice replaced with lemon cakes. Already has the creepy pedophilia and stuff down all you gotta do is change some names and add more food porn.
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Feb 2, 2015 15:48
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I remember there were a couple times where it was brought up how Sansa is entering original content territory and someone would go, "No she's not! She hasn't met Mya Stone or gone down the mountain yet!" That stuff was funny but I don't see it as often anymore.
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I don't think he's stuck. I bet he's just lazy and now that he's got millions of dollars and no longer hungers for success, why bother putting in 2 or 3 years of hard work writing a compelling end to the series, when he can just fart around and write whatever drivel he wants. No editors, no masters, just GRRM writing Apocalypse Now starring Tyrion and a whole mess of new characters that just bloat the narrative and make things even more difficult to wrap up.
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Feb 2, 2015 23:45
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For true, when I read ADWD all those moons ago, as soon as I got to chapters featuring everyone's favorite new posse of Grif and Co, or bringing back Hotah the Russian Bear, I had to look back at the front of the book to confirm that this is indeed book five of seven of a loving series that still has new plot threads and characters being introduced (instead of just implied or whatever). Like, structurally, that is insane. Especially when you leave things hanging like ~*my Loras*~ rumoured to have been hideously burned (off-screen), even though I know in my heart that he isn't. He isn't! ;___;
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visceril posted:Sam: gonna have a great sex scene this season, and the end of dance for him would make for a nice cliffhanger If you watch Workaholics, I'm really hoping the scene plays out like the Ders/Alice sex scene where he gets a couple pumps in then 
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threeagainstfour posted:I don't think he's stuck. I bet he's just lazy and now that he's got millions of dollars and no longer hungers for success, why bother putting in 2 or 3 years of hard work writing a compelling end to the series, when he can just fart around and write whatever drivel he wants. No editors, no masters, just GRRM writing Apocalypse Now starring Tyrion and a whole mess of new characters that just bloat the narrative and make things even more difficult to wrap up. I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that he's already got a bit antsy about changes the show has made and the idea of them overtaking him. I guess we'll see how he really feels about his magnum opus at the end of the upcoming season. SaviourX posted:For true, when I read ADWD all those moons ago, as soon as I got to chapters featuring everyone's favorite new posse of Grif and Co, or bringing back Hotah the Russian Bear, I had to look back at the front of the book to confirm that this is indeed book five of seven of a loving series that still has new plot threads and characters being introduced (instead of just implied or whatever). Like, structurally, that is insane. The weird thing about Grif's whole storyline is you're all, like, 'Seriously? The fat gently caress is introducing another major player this late into the game....?' but the next thing you know, they've invaded Westeros and have taken a loving castle in the space of two chapters. Then we go back to Dany making GBS threads in the desert and rejoining the loving Dothraki.
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It really is ALMOST like he's trying to make a coherent point about something but I absolutely cannot figure it. The sheer number of hanging plot threads is really, truly overwhelming though. If he somehow manages to wrap up what Jaqen/Alleras/Samwell are doing in Oldtown, what Marwyn's deal is, what will happen with Obara and Balon Swann seeking out Darkstar, what will happen with the Sand Snakes who go to King's Landing, what the aftermath of Kevan's death will be and the political fallout, the outcome of both Cersei and Margaery's trials and any ensuing battles, Robert Strong the zombie, Sandor the Gravedigger on the Quiet Isle and possible CLEGANEBOWL, Tommen and Margaery's relationship, creepiness between Littlefinger and Sansa, what will happen with Harry the Heir and does anyone care, Sweetrobin's impending death, Arya and the neverending training, what the deal is with the Kindly Man and the Faceless Men in general, what will happen to Jon and whether he's dead/will be resurrected by R'hollor or warg into Ghost or whatever, what happens to The Night's Watch and The Wildlings, the dozens of threads hanging between Winterfell and Stannis and the plots in the north - where are Manderly's ships/army and how badly injured is he and how accurate is The Pink Letter and so on... Long-hanging plot threads like whether Howland Reed will appear, what happened to the people Robb sent into the Neck with his will that Jon be legitimized and succeed him.. moving further north there and multitudes of questions about Bloodraven and Bran and the Children and what their agendas are, and what the nature of weirwood trees and underground areas beneath big weirwood trees like High Heart and the Winterfell Crypts and Bloodraven's hideout. Then we've got all the multitudes of plot points left hanging in Essos with Dany, Tyrion, Victarion, Barristan, the ensuing battle, the obvious fact that the Green Grace is the Harpy, etc... So uh, that's taking 5 or 10 minutes to just list all the incredibly obvious loose plot threads that have either been left hanging or been frayed beyond recognition. I could keep going, too, I mean seriously - the only limit is how much you can remember about the books because I'm not sure a single significant plot thread that has actually been "wrapped up" to any degree of satisfaction.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Once I finish with Mistborn (probably 1/3 to 1/5 through Hero of Ages atm) wouldit be better to start on Hobbs (and which series) or another Sandersen line? I've already read the two Stormlight Archives books. Hobbs. Then Le Guin. Women fantasy authors supremacy.
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kaworu posted:So uh, that's taking 5 or 10 minutes to just list all the incredibly obvious loose plot threads that have either been left hanging or been frayed beyond recognition. I could keep going, too, I mean seriously - the only limit is how much you can remember about the books because I'm not sure a single significant plot thread that has actually been "wrapped up" to any degree of satisfaction. Maester Luwin got to see Bran and Rickon alive  Also I'd say most of the deaths wrapped up significant plot threads to a degree of satisfaction. He just hasn't killed enough people off yet.
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https://twitter.com/Gollancz/status/562659701801103360 huh
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Feb 3, 2015 18:32
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Well SOMEONE had to finish this series... I for one cannot wait for Strong Belradley, Atticus Hound and Scoutyion Lannister.
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Feb 3, 2015 18:39
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Twitter replies so far missing the obvious Littlefinger joke.
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hello bad thread is it out yet?
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it will be soon *unzips fly*
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Shageletic posted:Hobbs. Then Le Guin. Women fantasy authors supremacy. I was going to grab Alloy of Law but people keep saying Hobbs so I think Farseer it will be. kaworu posted:what happened to the people Robb sent into the Neck with his will that Jon be legitimized and succeed him.. Weren't these guys caught out by the Ironborn? I could've sworn that their fate is mentioned in passing. Though the simple answer is: GRRM always intended to leave things unresolved because well Tolkien never mentioned in detail what happened with all the orcs, trolls, and so forth after the ring's destroyed. Or he just wants to have people wanting more that they will never get, so they are hooked and discuss the story long after he's consumed by shitdick.
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I'm rewatching season 1 of the show and goddamn it's so much fun when you realize all the clues sitting around that suggest Lyanna never liked Robert at all and his whole rebellion to get her back was a bunch of bullshit. Makes me wonder if Ned knew before the Tower and just sort of nodded along in agreement because they were both heading the same way anyway. It's just funny because you're blinded by ye olde fantasy tropes until later and then you go back and you're like "Well if this world is THIS realistic, then why would FemaleNed ever want anything to do with a drunky manslut like Robert?" Edit: I guess the same goes for reading the start again but I can't put myself through that until this fucker dies or another one comes out.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I'm rewatching season 1 of the show and goddamn it's so much fun when you realize all the clues sitting around that suggest Lyanna never liked Robert at all and his whole rebellion to get her back was a bunch of bullshit. Makes me wonder if Ned knew before the Tower and just sort of nodded along in agreement because they were both heading the same way anyway. Yeah this is one of my favorite bits of misdirection introduced by the GURM, it's actually pretty funny because he makes it extremely obvious that Ned does not share Robert's views in regards to Rhaegar both implicitly in their conversation in the crypt and later on explicitly when Ned visits Littlefinger's brothel but it's pretty easy to overlook cause as a reader you tend to read the first few chapters of AGOT as 'unbiased exposition'. As for what Ned knew or didn't know as he was going to the tower of joy, you gotta remember that it didn't matter at all by this point, Brandon and Rickard went to King's Landing where they were burned/strangled by Aerys and Aerys then demanded Ned and Robert's heads, Rhaegar at that pointed sided with his father and he was effectively the enemy, whether he was the monster Robert claims he was or not, by the time Ned went to rescue Lyanna from the tower of joy Rhaegar was already dead, Robert was already king and Ned was just going to go fetch his sister. Or perhaps you're referring to something else?
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aerys demanded that they come swear fealty to him, his right as king. aerys did nothing wrong
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I mean I wonder if Ned already knew that Lyanna didn't really care for Robert? They did have better reasons for marching but if they didn't I wonder if Ned wouldn't have sat him down and been like "Dude, get over her". He has convenient plot reasons for never spilling the beans. When Robert wants to march off and get her, they're marching to war that direction anyway. Afterwards the issue is wrapped up in the Jon Show poo poo and he'd rather keep his mouth shut than tell Robert his raison detre is bullshit. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Feb 3, 2015 |
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jsoh posted:aerys demanded that they come swear fealty to him, his right as king. aerys did nothing wrong Nah: quote:the king ordered Lord Jon Arryn to send him the heads of his two wards at the Eyrie, Eddard Stark and Lyanna's fiance Robert Baratheon, both of whom he believed to be guilty of participating in the "conspiracy" on account of their ties with House Stark. Arryn refused Intel&Sebastian posted:I mean I wonder if Ned already knew that Lyanna didn't really care for Robert? They did have better reasons for marching but if they didn't I wonder if Ned wouldn't have sat him down and been like "Dude, get over her". Well, as I said, it really didn't matter what Ned knew or didn't, for that purpose we don't know much about Rickard and Brandon but there's enough to suggest that they didn't care about what Lyanna thought either. Robert was betrothed to Lyanna cause it promised massive political gains for house Stark, he was the 17 year old lord of the stormlands and she was just a woman, we know Ned loved her and that he was not the sort of person who'd send his daughters/sister to merry some drunk rear end in a top hat cause it was politically expedient but we don't know the same about Rickard, in fact, Lady Dustin tells Theon that Rickard Stark was exactly the kind of person who'd do something like that. So, Brandon and Rickard went to demand Lyanna's return not because they gave a poo poo about whether Rhaegar was a monster or not, after that happened the war was on and Robert and Ned were at the heart of it, it would have been pointless for Ned to go "Well Bob, you know she kinda thought you're a dick right?"
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I always took Ned for a guy who grew up expecting to take orders and keep his mouth shut his whole life. Suddenly his dad and older brother are dead, his sister is 'stolen', and he's Lord Stark. He just follows along with whatever someone else tells him since that's all he's ever known. It's why he fucks off back to Winterfell and keeps his head down until Robert rolls into town again and fucks his family over.
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Feb 3, 2015 22:25
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I love the outlets rolling with this latest news with the interpretation that the book will be out in early 2016.
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Ross posted:I love the outlets rolling with this latest news with the interpretation that the book will be out in early 2016. "oh, my sweet summer child...."
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My favorite are all the articles saying how "well this now guarantees the show will outpace the books". Really man? Now it's guaranteed? It's been loving guaranteed since the show started if you were capable of doing basic math. The dude takes at least 6 years to put out a book. The show is going to be 7 seasons (years) long. The show easily finishes in the time that it takes him to release a single book. And there were 3 left when the show started. It's not exactly that hard to realize there was never a chance in hell of him beating the show. The only way the books could have caught up to the show is if the show was like 20 seasons long, or 7 seasons long with like a loving 3 year hiatus between every season for fucks sake. GRRM was so obviously doomed from the beginning. People are dumb as hell. Damo fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Feb 4, 2015 |
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Even after the insane gaps between Swords and Crows and again between Crows and Dragons he was still averaging a book every 3 years or so. as I said not too long ago I held out hope that the show would inspire him to write. I also thought maybe getting over the hurdle of Feast and Dance and the problems that split caused would bring the average down. We know now and for a while really that this didn't turn out to be the case.
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Oh for those blissful days when the Meereneese Knot wasn't yet revealed to be bullshit and there was still hope Grrm could write like an actual professional author once he conquered it
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Feb 4, 2015 04:16
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we all know the meereneese knot is just a sex position now and always has been
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A Game of Thrones (1996) A Clash of Kings (1998) A Storm of Swords (2000) A Feast For Crows (2005) A Dance With Dragons (2011) HBO's Game of Thrones: The Winds of Winter (Coming soon!) I know what this thread is all about, but it still boggles my loving mind that GRRM put the three best books out in the same amount of time that he's hosed off between the others. It's okay if you don't want to write anymore, fucker, just don't pretend like you're actually going to finish when you clearly haven't been invested in a long time.
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Feb 4, 2015 05:02
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Got Cock Sauce? gently caress, Dude! Miss u The Bad Thred
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Generation Internet posted:A Game of Thrones (1996) For all we know GRRM worked on the first book for ten years and at the same time outlined Clash and Storm. Edit: I mean he probably outlined the whole series in the beginning in broad strokes, like Stannis going to attack Kings Landing or Jon becoming Commander, but the further away from the first book the less concrete everything was. I Love Loosies fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Feb 4, 2015 |
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Generation Internet posted:A Game of Thrones (1996) 2-2-5-6... Logic dictates Winds of Winter due 2018?
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