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Volkerball posted:Libertadores coming up, bitches. Go Palestino. I miss the days when Palestino still had players of palestinean descent and the team basically served as half of the National Football Team of Palestine. There's nothing particularly noteworthy about current Palestino. I mean, other than this.
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In Chilean news, the finals of a popular cooking show were OBVIOUSLY RIGGED. I expect this to become a bigger scandal than the Nisman case. Also same-sex civil unions were recently legalized, the first part of the much-anticipated educational reform was passed into law, a newly introduced bill might make us the last country in the civilized world to legalize abortion, and the largest right-wing party is undergoing a slow implosion due to a scandal involving tax evasion in campaign funding. But seriously though #IGNACIOESPUEBLO
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Azran posted:We still haven't legalized abortion. He said civilized countries 
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King Metal posted:Small electronics, clothes. DX.com, banggood.com, aliexpress.com. The EU has a similar thing going on with customs (apparently just slightly better functioning) and what I've found is that the various HK/China ebay sellers are very good at creatively minimizing your tax and duty liabilities. As opposed to, say, Amazon.
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Brazil has elected a big time conservative as speaker of the Chamber of Deputies. He hates gays, "aboritionists", and potsmokers. He also thinks Brazil should criminalize "heterophobia."
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Badger of Basra posted:Brazil has elected a big time conservative as speaker of the Chamber of Deputies. He hates gays, "aboritionists", and potsmokers. He also thinks Brazil should criminalize "heterophobia." I'm calling it now, that dudes probably gay.
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SexyBlindfold posted:I miss the days when Palestino still had players of palestinean descent and the team basically served as half of the National Football Team of Palestine. Yeah, I know. I follow Corinthians, but of course I hope Palestino exceeds expectations.
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SexyBlindfold posted:In Chilean news, the finals of a popular cooking show were OBVIOUSLY RIGGED. I expect this to become a bigger scandal than the Nisman case. 
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I've been following the Nisman story but not this thread. I checked and didn't see this posted. Dead Argentine Prosecutor Had Draft Warrant for President http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/04/world/americas/argentina-prosecutor-alberto-nisman-arrest-warrant-cristina-de-kirchner.html quote:BUENOS AIRES — Alberto Nisman, the prosecutor whose mysterious death has gripped Argentina, had drafted a warrant for the arrest of President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, accusing her of trying to shield Iranian officials from responsibility in the 1994 bombing of a Jewish center here, the lead investigator into his death said on Tuesday. I'm not super familiar with Argentinean (Argentine?) politics, but from what I've heard, Cristina Kirchner was a sleazy, corrupt, authoritarian shitheel long before Nisman was shot. Is this a correct impression? With that and this article in mind, how likely is it that Kirchner had a hand in Nisman's death? Seems pretty clear to me but again I lack a lot of context and background awareness.
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rockopete posted:I'm not super familiar with Argentinean (Argentine?) politics, but from what I've heard, Cristina Kirchner was a sleazy, corrupt, authoritarian shitheel long before Nisman was shot. Is this a correct impression? This is objectively true, yes. I'm not going to jump to conclusions re: who had a hand in either incident (AMIA bombings/Nisman's death) though, because while I would love to see the President being involved as further proof of her "terrible person and stateswoman" status, it would be SERIOUSLY lovely to say "hey guys, I'm from the country where my current president has had a hand in terrorist acts against their own people".  That said, it wouldn't surprise me one bit.
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rockopete posted:I've been following the Nisman story but not this thread. I checked and didn't see this posted. 
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rockopete posted:I've been following the Nisman story but not this thread. I checked and didn't see this posted. Every Argentinean president since Perón has been a sleazy, corrupt, authoritarian shitheel.
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http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1765084-jorge-capitanich-ahora-rompe-notas-de-clarin-en-vivo Capitanich, Chief of the Cabinet of Ministers (also a huge corrupt inept), decided to tear apart a newspaper stating that in a public press conference. Some days ago, he also decided to showcase his acting talent
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Eh, depends on who you ask. The Kirchner's did some good things (pulled the country out of the ashes of the economic crisis) and some bad things (ton of shady poo poo). Still better than Menem. Still better than most of the possible candidates in the upcoming elections. Seriously, Macri is going to win and the roaring 90's will be back in full force.Polidoro posted:Every Argentinean president since Perón has been a sleazy, corrupt, authoritarian shitheel. You joke, but half the country thinks this of every non-peronist president, while the other half thinks this about every peronist president. I find it disgusting that 40 years after his death, his handless corpse still warps the political landscape of the country. E: Azran posted:http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1765084-jorge-capitanich-ahora-rompe-notas-de-clarin-en-vivo Clarin is such garbage that I don't blame him. It's quality has nosedived (if it ever had any, too young to remember) to near Cronica-like reporting.
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Markovnikov posted:Eh, depends on who you ask. The Kirchner's did some good things (pulled the country out of the ashes of the economic crisis) and some bad things (ton of shady poo poo). Still better than Menem. Still better than most of the possible candidates in the upcoming elections. Seriously, Macri is going to win and the roaring 90's will be back in full force. I thought Scioli was a shoo-in?
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Badger of Basra posted:I thought Scioli was a shoo-in? Not according to the polls even before the scandal, and I can't think of this helping FJ or Scioli at this point. It looks like it might be wraps for the left in Argentina and as another poster said, a return to the 1990s.
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Markovnikov posted:Eh, depends on who you ask. The Kirchner's did some good things (pulled the country out of the ashes of the economic crisis) and some bad things (ton of shady poo poo). Still better than Menem. Still better than most of the possible candidates in the upcoming elections. Seriously, Macri is going to win and the roaring 90's will be back in full force. First of all a disclaimer - I don't have sympathy for any side of the Argentinian political spectrum. That said, I don't think anyone should take Menem as the bar one has to clear to be a "good president" because holy poo poo that's a low bar. I do agree some good things happened during the Kirchner governments - I mean, I did vote for Cristina's re-election. (  )I think La Campora is one of the worst things to come out of them though. Markovnikov posted:You joke, but half the country thinks this of every non-peronist president, while the other half thinks this about every peronist president. I find it disgusting that 40 years after his death, his handless corpse still warps the political landscape of the country. Agreed.  Markovnikov posted:Clarin is such garbage that I don't blame him. It's quality has nosedived (if it ever had any, too young to remember) to near Cronica-like reporting. Agreed as well! I just find it really childish.
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Ardennes posted:Not according to the polls even before the scandal, and I can't think of this helping FJ or Scioli at this point. It looks like it might be wraps for the left in Argentina and as another poster said, a return to the 1990s. I wouldn't call the current government the left. Maybe the "not the right". Azran posted:First of all a disclaimer - I don't have sympathy for any side of the Argentinian political spectrum. That said, I don't think anyone should take Menem as the bar one has to clear to be a "good president" because holy poo poo that's a low bar. I do agree some good things happened during the Kirchner governments - I mean, I did vote for Cristina's re-election. ( Well there are not many presidents I can compare to in recennt history. This side of the end of the military regime you've got Alfonsin, Menem, de la Rua (lol), and the however many presidents we had between de la Rua taking the last helicopter out of the Casa Rosada and the Kirchners. So a lot of very bad ones, and Alfonsin who I think is viewed in a rather positive light, rampant inflation during his period notwithstanding. I do love how his son (grandson?) tries his hardest to look like him and pretend the UCR still has a chance at anything.
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Markovnikov posted:Well there are not many presidents I can compare to in recennt history. This side of the end of the military regime you've got Alfonsin, Menem, de la Rua (lol), and the however many presidents we had between de la Rua taking the last helicopter out of the Casa Rosada and the Kirchners. So a lot of very bad ones, and Alfonsin who I think is viewed in a rather positive light, rampant inflation during his period notwithstanding. That is, indeed, a very good point. Nevermind me.
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Azran posted:This is objectively true, yes. Thanks, and agreed, that would suck and I hope it doesn't come to that. It does seem an awfully clumsy way to 'deal' with Nisman, since it puts suspicion on her, though perhaps she or others were panicking? Disbanding/rearranging the intelligence agency is definitely a smokescreen no matter who is guilty though, right? As an American it's pretty mind-blowing to think that dissolving the intelligence establishment could be done as a distraction.
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rockopete posted:Thanks, and agreed, that would suck and I hope it doesn't come to that. It does seem an awfully clumsy way to 'deal' with Nisman, since it puts suspicion on her, though perhaps she or others were panicking? Well they may have thought they hired a professional who wouldn't just throw incriminating documents in the dudes trash after the fact.
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You start to understand the Argentinian political mentality when you realize that state officials can publicly announce public works like a mega-stadium (in the case of my city) or a bullet train (in the case of Buenos Aires), have nothing ever materialize out of it (while money spent vanishes), and no one ever saying nothing at all about it ever again, and having people just say "yeah, whatever, this is normal". In my city, the governor (not the current one) decided to create a mega-stadium. They constructed the structure, but the roof had some immense issues that would lead to a cave-in or just flat out collapse of the structure if it was put in place. So they just dumped the project and the structure is just sitting there, unused, in the public lagoon. It's been like this for what, 7-10 years?
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Azran: De donde sos? Off topic, but in case anybody wants to see the reality through the eyes of a schizo, http://laverdadnopuedeserignorada-02.blogspot.com.ar/
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hecko posted:Azran: De donde sos? La Pampa. Please don't send death squads Also holy poo poo that link: "Female human trafficking is a feminist invention to make man kneel to them"
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Whenever I try to catch up with Argentinean politics I always end up wondering just how on earth the country still manages to function. e: Azran posted:Also holy poo poo that link: "Female human trafficking is a feminist invention to make man kneel to them" The article basically says that human trafficking doesn't exist and the hoax is a nefarious plot to curtail the rights of innocent solicitors of prostitution by guilt-tripping them into not having sex with minors  The link right next to that one declares that "anti-human trafficking" NGOs are in fact human trafficking operations that seek to procure teenage sex slaves for Mauricio Macri. So which one is it? 
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Then you have a post by him explaining why hackers want to "hacker" his escort website?
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Azran posted:"hey guys, I'm from the country where my current president has had a hand in terrorist acts against their own people". A month ago I'd be able to make a Sri Lanka joke.  Sirisena better actually fix the country, because Rajapaksa is the President for Life of My Heart.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:A month ago I'd be able to make a Sri Lanka joke. Now I really want to know about Sri Lanka's politics!
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rockopete posted:Argentinean (Argentine?)  Argentine! Argentina is not a word that exists in English per se, and comes from the Spanish version of the Latin argentum (silver). "La Argentina" is an old as gently caress poem from colonial times talking about the land, omitting the subject from the title. "Argentina" has always been a descriptor of the land/republic/confederation/people, but not the actual point of reference in itself. In English, Argentina used to be known as "the Argentine" up until the post-war period. As far as I can tell from documents and texts from that time (NOT AN EXPERT), Americans tended to use "Argentina" a lot more than the British at that point. Menem lo hizo! 
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Man, Kirchner is really on a roll lately. "Aloz" being arroz (rice), and "petloleo" being petroleo (petroleum). She's in China, you see.
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Gas country ban Cristina.
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Volkerball posted:Man, Kirchner is really on a roll lately.  Never change, Argentina.
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:vamos carajo vamos calajo
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hoiyes posted:Any Brazgoons up for some wild speculation on the water crisis in São Paulo. As far as I can tell from the press, opinions seem to range from "It looks pretty bad now, but God is Brazilian and he'll send the rains. by the way have you heard about Petrobras?" to "Expect Mad Max-esque, post-apocalyptic scenes, as the Southern Hemisphere's largest city turns into a dustbowl and regular citizens who can't flee find themselves trapped in the middle of an urban war between heavily armed gangs and veritable armies of private security over the few remaining water sources." The South and Southeast can go eat poo poo for all that I care  Also there has been a huge backlash at Dilma here on Ceara after she cancelled the refinery to be built on Fortaleza. How the hell does she expect to get a successor if she reneges on everything she promised on the campaign?
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