- Esroc
- May 31, 2010
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Goku would be ashamed of you.
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Arcosian transformation is more like controlled mutation. Much like how a caterpillar will mutate into a butterfly to achieve flight, select Arocisans of the royal bloodline can mutate their bodies to accumulate more strength and ki.
The "first" form is the natural state for the Arcosian species and the form most of the species is stuck in for the entirety of their lives, but those with royal genetics can willfully enter a state of metamorphosis that twists their body into a new form with ever increasing power as they ascend upwards in stages of mutation, opening up their bodies to accept more ki. Theoretically there is no upper limit to these forms. One could wager an royal Arcosian with enough training and willpower could push their bodies to God-like levels of power. This is why Arcosians are presented as rival "brothers" and analogues to the Saiyans, they both have the same potential for power via mutation and transformation respectively. However the royal Arcosians successfully kept the Saiyans weak for millenia and thus had no need to attempt a mutation beyond the 4th and 5th tiers of their power. This makes sense, as going beyond the 4th form would make it highly unlikely for the Arcosian to assimilate into physical society very well. A single errant sneeze could lay waste to a city, after all.
Freeza is a special case in that unlike the rest of his royal family, he adopts the form of his lowborn brethren. However, this makes a kind of sick sense when you look at Freeza's personality. He revels in sadism and destruction, and is the most powerful of his species (including Cooler! But we'll get to that). Why not lower yourself to the primitive body of your subjects and sow rumour of your awesome power despite your lowborn appearance? It would be frightening to look upon your prince, who looks just like you, and knowing that at any moment he could unleash hell like a natural disaster given flesh. And it opens opportunity for subjects to question the power of their dear leader, who will then gladly demonstrate.
Cooler remains in his 4th form due to an amusing inferiority complex. You see, due to Cooler arriving on Earth within the first year or so after Trunks' arrival, when he and Goku fought Goku could not have been much more powerful than he was when he fought Freeza . A being who was able to, at least for a little while, stand toe to toe with a very angry Super Saiyan. Cooler, on the other hand, while in his 4th form barely equals to Goku in his base form! Already Cooler, for all his pompous bragging, has proven himself to be weaker than his own brother. Thus in a move of desperation he pushes himself to a new tier, a 5th form. Why look daddy! I've pushed past even Freeza's forms! Look at me! Look at me! Except that in Cooler's 5th form he is torn apart by a Super Saiyan with little effort. The same Super Saiyan that Freeza fought to a near standstill in only his fourth mutation!
Cooler is a jealous, angry sibling that is hurt that Freeza has surpassed him so completely that even by breaking the known limits of the royal bloodlines power isn't enough to rival his own baby brother.
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Arcosian transformation is more like controlled mutation. Much like how a caterpillar will mutate into a butterfly to achieve flight, select Arocisans of the royal bloodline can mutate their bodies to accumulate more strength and ki.
The "first" form is the natural state for the Arcosian species and the form most of the species is stuck in for the entirety of their lives, but those with royal genetics can willfully enter a state of metamorphosis that twists their body into a new form with ever increasing power as they ascend upwards in stages of mutation, opening up their bodies to accept more ki. Theoretically there is no upper limit to these forms. One could wager an royal Arcosian with enough training and willpower could push their bodies to God-like levels of power. This is why Arcosians are presented as rival "brothers" and analogues to the Saiyans, they both have the same potential for power via mutation and transformation respectively. However the royal Arcosians successfully kept the Saiyans weak for millenia and thus had no need to attempt a mutation beyond the 4th and 5th tiers of their power. This makes sense, as going beyond the 4th form would make it highly unlikely for the Arcosian to assimilate into physical society very well. A single errant sneeze could lay waste to a city, after all.
Freeza is a special case in that unlike the rest of his royal family, he adopts the form of his lowborn brethren. However, this makes a kind of sick sense when you look at Freeza's personality. He revels in sadism and destruction, and is the most powerful of his species (including Cooler! But we'll get to that). Why not lower yourself to the primitive body of your subjects and sow rumour of your awesome power despite your lowborn appearance? It would be frightening to look upon your prince, who looks just like you, and knowing that at any moment he could unleash hell like a natural disaster given flesh. And it opens opportunity for subjects to question the power of their dear leader, who will then gladly demonstrate.
Cooler remains in his 4th form due to an amusing inferiority complex. You see, due to Cooler arriving on Earth within the first year or so after Trunks' arrival, when he and Goku fought Goku could not have been much more powerful than he was when he fought Freeza . A being who was able to, at least for a little while, stand toe to toe with a very angry Super Saiyan. Cooler, on the other hand, while in his 4th form barely equals to Goku in his base form! Already Cooler, for all his pompous bragging, has proven himself to be weaker than his own brother. Thus in a move of desperation he pushes himself to a new tier, a 5th form. Why look daddy! I've pushed past even Freeza's forms! Look at me! Look at me! Except that in Cooler's 5th form he is torn apart by a Super Saiyan with little effort. The same Super Saiyan that Freeza fought to a near standstill in only his fourth mutation!
Cooler is a jealous, angry sibling that is hurt that Freeza has surpassed him so completely that even by breaking the known limits of the royal bloodlines power isn't enough to rival his own baby brother.
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Arcosian transformation is more like controlled mutation. Much like how a caterpillar will mutate into a butterfly to achieve flight, select Arocisans of the royal bloodline can mutate their bodies to accumulate more strength and ki.
The "first" form is the natural state for the Arcosian species and the form most of the species is stuck in for the entirety of their lives, but those with royal genetics can willfully enter a state of metamorphosis that twists their body into a new form with ever increasing power as they ascend upwards in stages of mutation, opening up their bodies to accept more ki. Theoretically there is no upper limit to these forms. One could wager an royal Arcosian with enough training and willpower could push their bodies to God-like levels of power. This is why Arcosians are presented as rival "brothers" and analogues to the Saiyans, they both have the same potential for power via mutation and transformation respectively. However the royal Arcosians successfully kept the Saiyans weak for millenia and thus had no need to attempt a mutation beyond the 4th and 5th tiers of their power. This makes sense, as going beyond the 4th form would make it highly unlikely for the Arcosian to assimilate into physical society very well. A single errant sneeze could lay waste to a city, after all.
Freeza is a special case in that unlike the rest of his royal family, he adopts the form of his lowborn brethren. However, this makes a kind of sick sense when you look at Freeza's personality. He revels in sadism and destruction, and is the most powerful of his species (including Cooler! But we'll get to that). Why not lower yourself to the primitive body of your subjects and sow rumour of your awesome power despite your lowborn appearance? It would be frightening to look upon your prince, who looks just like you, and knowing that at any moment he could unleash hell like a natural disaster given flesh. And it opens opportunity for subjects to question the power of their dear leader, who will then gladly demonstrate.
Cooler remains in his 4th form due to an amusing inferiority complex. You see, due to Cooler arriving on Earth within the first year or so after Trunks' arrival, when he and Goku fought Goku could not have been much more powerful than he was when he fought Freeza . A being who was able to, at least for a little while, stand toe to toe with a very angry Super Saiyan. Cooler, on the other hand, while in his 4th form barely equals to Goku in his base form! Already Cooler, for all his pompous bragging, has proven himself to be weaker than his own brother. Thus in a move of desperation he pushes himself to a new tier, a 5th form. Why look daddy! I've pushed past even Freeza's forms! Look at me! Look at me! Except that in Cooler's 5th form he is torn apart by a Super Saiyan with little effort. The same Super Saiyan that Freeza fought to a near standstill in only his fourth mutation!
Cooler is a jealous, angry sibling that is hurt that Freeza has surpassed him so completely that even by breaking the known limits of the royal bloodlines power isn't enough to rival his own baby brother.
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- projecthalaxy
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Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son
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Arcosian transformation is more like controlled mutation. Much like how a caterpillar will mutate into a butterfly to achieve flight, select Arocisans of the royal bloodline can mutate their bodies to accumulate more strength and ki.
The "first" form is the natural state for the Arcosian species and the form most of the species is stuck in for the entirety of their lives, but those with royal genetics can willfully enter a state of metamorphosis that twists their body into a new form with ever increasing power as they ascend upwards in stages of mutation, opening up their bodies to accept more ki. Theoretically there is no upper limit to these forms. One could wager an royal Arcosian with enough training and willpower could push their bodies to God-like levels of power. This is why Arcosians are presented as rival "brothers" and analogues to the Saiyans, they both have the same potential for power via mutation and transformation respectively. However the royal Arcosians successfully kept the Saiyans weak for millenia and thus had no need to attempt a mutation beyond the 4th and 5th tiers of their power. This makes sense, as going beyond the 4th form would make it highly unlikely for the Arcosian to assimilate into physical society very well. A single errant sneeze could lay waste to a city, after all.
Freeza is a special case in that unlike the rest of his royal family, he adopts the form of his lowborn brethren. However, this makes a kind of sick sense when you look at Freeza's personality. He revels in sadism and destruction, and is the most powerful of his species (including Cooler! But we'll get to that). Why not lower yourself to the primitive body of your subjects and sow rumour of your awesome power despite your lowborn appearance? It would be frightening to look upon your prince, who looks just like you, and knowing that at any moment he could unleash hell like a natural disaster given flesh. And it opens opportunity for subjects to question the power of their dear leader, who will then gladly demonstrate.
Cooler remains in his 4th form due to an amusing inferiority complex. You see, due to Cooler arriving on Earth within the first year or so after Trunks' arrival, when he and Goku fought Goku could not have been much more powerful than he was when he fought Freeza . A being who was able to, at least for a little while, stand toe to toe with a very angry Super Saiyan. Cooler, on the other hand, while in his 4th form barely equals to Goku in his base form! Already Cooler, for all his pompous bragging, has proven himself to be weaker than his own brother. Thus in a move of desperation he pushes himself to a new tier, a 5th form. Why look daddy! I've pushed past even Freeza's forms! Look at me! Look at me! Except that in Cooler's 5th form he is torn apart by a Super Saiyan with little effort. The same Super Saiyan that Freeza fought to a near standstill in only his fourth mutation!
Cooler is a jealous, angry sibling that is hurt that Freeza has surpassed him so completely that even by breaking the known limits of the royal bloodlines power isn't enough to rival his own baby brother.
Yeah! Yeah!
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- Some Numbers
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"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"
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Arcosian transformation is more like controlled mutation. Much like how a caterpillar will mutate into a butterfly to achieve flight, select Arocisans of the royal bloodline can mutate their bodies to accumulate more strength and ki.
The "first" form is the natural state for the Arcosian species and the form most of the species is stuck in for the entirety of their lives, but those with royal genetics can willfully enter a state of metamorphosis that twists their body into a new form with ever increasing power as they ascend upwards in stages of mutation, opening up their bodies to accept more ki. Theoretically there is no upper limit to these forms. One could wager an royal Arcosian with enough training and willpower could push their bodies to God-like levels of power. This is why Arcosians are presented as rival "brothers" and analogues to the Saiyans, they both have the same potential for power via mutation and transformation respectively. However the royal Arcosians successfully kept the Saiyans weak for millenia and thus had no need to attempt a mutation beyond the 4th and 5th tiers of their power. This makes sense, as going beyond the 4th form would make it highly unlikely for the Arcosian to assimilate into physical society very well. A single errant sneeze could lay waste to a city, after all.
Freeza is a special case in that unlike the rest of his royal family, he adopts the form of his lowborn brethren. However, this makes a kind of sick sense when you look at Freeza's personality. He revels in sadism and destruction, and is the most powerful of his species (including Cooler! But we'll get to that). Why not lower yourself to the primitive body of your subjects and sow rumour of your awesome power despite your lowborn appearance? It would be frightening to look upon your prince, who looks just like you, and knowing that at any moment he could unleash hell like a natural disaster given flesh. And it opens opportunity for subjects to question the power of their dear leader, who will then gladly demonstrate.
Cooler remains in his 4th form due to an amusing inferiority complex. You see, due to Cooler arriving on Earth within the first year or so after Trunks' arrival, when he and Goku fought Goku could not have been much more powerful than he was when he fought Freeza . A being who was able to, at least for a little while, stand toe to toe with a very angry Super Saiyan. Cooler, on the other hand, while in his 4th form barely equals to Goku in his base form! Already Cooler, for all his pompous bragging, has proven himself to be weaker than his own brother. Thus in a move of desperation he pushes himself to a new tier, a 5th form. Why look daddy! I've pushed past even Freeza's forms! Look at me! Look at me! Except that in Cooler's 5th form he is torn apart by a Super Saiyan with little effort. The same Super Saiyan that Freeza fought to a near standstill in only his fourth mutation!
Cooler is a jealous, angry sibling that is hurt that Freeza has surpassed him so completely that even by breaking the known limits of the royal bloodlines power isn't enough to rival his own baby brother.
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I demand to be taken seriously
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Arcosian transformation is more like controlled mutation. Much like how a caterpillar will mutate into a butterfly to achieve flight, select Arocisans of the royal bloodline can mutate their bodies to accumulate more strength and ki.
The "first" form is the natural state for the Arcosian species and the form most of the species is stuck in for the entirety of their lives, but those with royal genetics can willfully enter a state of metamorphosis that twists their body into a new form with ever increasing power as they ascend upwards in stages of mutation, opening up their bodies to accept more ki. Theoretically there is no upper limit to these forms. One could wager an royal Arcosian with enough training and willpower could push their bodies to God-like levels of power. This is why Arcosians are presented as rival "brothers" and analogues to the Saiyans, they both have the same potential for power via mutation and transformation respectively. However the royal Arcosians successfully kept the Saiyans weak for millenia and thus had no need to attempt a mutation beyond the 4th and 5th tiers of their power. This makes sense, as going beyond the 4th form would make it highly unlikely for the Arcosian to assimilate into physical society very well. A single errant sneeze could lay waste to a city, after all.
Freeza is a special case in that unlike the rest of his royal family, he adopts the form of his lowborn brethren. However, this makes a kind of sick sense when you look at Freeza's personality. He revels in sadism and destruction, and is the most powerful of his species (including Cooler! But we'll get to that). Why not lower yourself to the primitive body of your subjects and sow rumour of your awesome power despite your lowborn appearance? It would be frightening to look upon your prince, who looks just like you, and knowing that at any moment he could unleash hell like a natural disaster given flesh. And it opens opportunity for subjects to question the power of their dear leader, who will then gladly demonstrate.
Cooler remains in his 4th form due to an amusing inferiority complex. You see, due to Cooler arriving on Earth within the first year or so after Trunks' arrival, when he and Goku fought Goku could not have been much more powerful than he was when he fought Freeza . A being who was able to, at least for a little while, stand toe to toe with a very angry Super Saiyan. Cooler, on the other hand, while in his 4th form barely equals to Goku in his base form! Already Cooler, for all his pompous bragging, has proven himself to be weaker than his own brother. Thus in a move of desperation he pushes himself to a new tier, a 5th form. Why look daddy! I've pushed past even Freeza's forms! Look at me! Look at me! Except that in Cooler's 5th form he is torn apart by a Super Saiyan with little effort. The same Super Saiyan that Freeza fought to a near standstill in only his fourth mutation!
Cooler is a jealous, angry sibling that is hurt that Freeza has surpassed him so completely that even by breaking the known limits of the royal bloodlines power isn't enough to rival his own baby brother.
Well okay then.
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- Covok
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Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
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Arcosian transformation is more like controlled mutation. Much like how a caterpillar will mutate into a butterfly to achieve flight, select Arocisans of the royal bloodline can mutate their bodies to accumulate more strength and ki.
The "first" form is the natural state for the Arcosian species and the form most of the species is stuck in for the entirety of their lives, but those with royal genetics can willfully enter a state of metamorphosis that twists their body into a new form with ever increasing power as they ascend upwards in stages of mutation, opening up their bodies to accept more ki. Theoretically there is no upper limit to these forms. One could wager an royal Arcosian with enough training and willpower could push their bodies to God-like levels of power. This is why Arcosians are presented as rival "brothers" and analogues to the Saiyans, they both have the same potential for power via mutation and transformation respectively. However the royal Arcosians successfully kept the Saiyans weak for millenia and thus had no need to attempt a mutation beyond the 4th and 5th tiers of their power. This makes sense, as going beyond the 4th form would make it highly unlikely for the Arcosian to assimilate into physical society very well. A single errant sneeze could lay waste to a city, after all.
Freeza is a special case in that unlike the rest of his royal family, he adopts the form of his lowborn brethren. However, this makes a kind of sick sense when you look at Freeza's personality. He revels in sadism and destruction, and is the most powerful of his species (including Cooler! But we'll get to that). Why not lower yourself to the primitive body of your subjects and sow rumour of your awesome power despite your lowborn appearance? It would be frightening to look upon your prince, who looks just like you, and knowing that at any moment he could unleash hell like a natural disaster given flesh. And it opens opportunity for subjects to question the power of their dear leader, who will then gladly demonstrate.
Cooler remains in his 4th form due to an amusing inferiority complex. You see, due to Cooler arriving on Earth within the first year or so after Trunks' arrival, when he and Goku fought Goku could not have been much more powerful than he was when he fought Freeza . A being who was able to, at least for a little while, stand toe to toe with a very angry Super Saiyan. Cooler, on the other hand, while in his 4th form barely equals to Goku in his base form! Already Cooler, for all his pompous bragging, has proven himself to be weaker than his own brother. Thus in a move of desperation he pushes himself to a new tier, a 5th form. Why look daddy! I've pushed past even Freeza's forms! Look at me! Look at me! Except that in Cooler's 5th form he is torn apart by a Super Saiyan with little effort. The same Super Saiyan that Freeza fought to a near standstill in only his fourth mutation!
Cooler is a jealous, angry sibling that is hurt that Freeza has surpassed him so completely that even by breaking the known limits of the royal bloodlines power isn't enough to rival his own baby brother.
On what page does this appear in your fanfiction?
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- Rohan Kishibe
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You should ask the Planet Namek guy to see if he'll post this up there for you!
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If I had to make sense of it, I would say that Cooler and Chilled are not canon so we can discount them. Freeza suppresses his power because he is lazy, that's why he travels by Rascal and never trains. Cold is arrogant and dumb, being unable to sense ki he thought Trunks got his power from his sword so there was no need to transform if he could take the sword.
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Feb 5, 2015 02:30
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- Esroc
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If I had to make sense of it, I would say that Cooler and Chilled are not canon so we can discount them. Freeza suppresses his power because he is lazy, that's why he travels by Rascal and never trains. Cold is arrogant and dumb, being unable to sense ki he thought Trunks got his power from his sword so there was no need to transform if he could take the sword.
Dragonball Z canon is a serious matter and I won't hear otherwise.
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- zetamind2000
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Arcosian transformation is more like controlled mutation. Much like how a caterpillar will mutate into a butterfly to achieve flight, select Arocisans of the royal bloodline can mutate their bodies to accumulate more strength and ki.
The "first" form is the natural state for the Arcosian species and the form most of the species is stuck in for the entirety of their lives, but those with royal genetics can willfully enter a state of metamorphosis that twists their body into a new form with ever increasing power as they ascend upwards in stages of mutation, opening up their bodies to accept more ki. Theoretically there is no upper limit to these forms. One could wager an royal Arcosian with enough training and willpower could push their bodies to God-like levels of power. This is why Arcosians are presented as rival "brothers" and analogues to the Saiyans, they both have the same potential for power via mutation and transformation respectively. However the royal Arcosians successfully kept the Saiyans weak for millenia and thus had no need to attempt a mutation beyond the 4th and 5th tiers of their power. This makes sense, as going beyond the 4th form would make it highly unlikely for the Arcosian to assimilate into physical society very well. A single errant sneeze could lay waste to a city, after all.
Freeza is a special case in that unlike the rest of his royal family, he adopts the form of his lowborn brethren. However, this makes a kind of sick sense when you look at Freeza's personality. He revels in sadism and destruction, and is the most powerful of his species (including Cooler! But we'll get to that). Why not lower yourself to the primitive body of your subjects and sow rumour of your awesome power despite your lowborn appearance? It would be frightening to look upon your prince, who looks just like you, and knowing that at any moment he could unleash hell like a natural disaster given flesh. And it opens opportunity for subjects to question the power of their dear leader, who will then gladly demonstrate.
Cooler remains in his 4th form due to an amusing inferiority complex. You see, due to Cooler arriving on Earth within the first year or so after Trunks' arrival, when he and Goku fought Goku could not have been much more powerful than he was when he fought Freeza . A being who was able to, at least for a little while, stand toe to toe with a very angry Super Saiyan. Cooler, on the other hand, while in his 4th form barely equals to Goku in his base form! Already Cooler, for all his pompous bragging, has proven himself to be weaker than his own brother. Thus in a move of desperation he pushes himself to a new tier, a 5th form. Why look daddy! I've pushed past even Freeza's forms! Look at me! Look at me! Except that in Cooler's 5th form he is torn apart by a Super Saiyan with little effort. The same Super Saiyan that Freeza fought to a near standstill in only his fourth mutation!
Cooler is a jealous, angry sibling that is hurt that Freeza has surpassed him so completely that even by breaking the known limits of the royal bloodlines power isn't enough to rival his own baby brother.
Is this from that fanfic where Cell becomes a good guy
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Feb 5, 2015 03:41
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- Covok
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Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
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Is this from that fanfic where Cell becomes a good guy
You mean the sequal to Revival Of F: Revival Of C?
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Feb 5, 2015 05:07
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- Twiddy
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To the man who loves art for its own sake, it is frequently in its least important and lowliest manifestations that the keenest pleasure is to be derived.
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You mean the sequal to Revival Of F: Revival Of C?
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Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
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Yup, Revival Of C: The Revenge Of Cymbal.
Isn't that the only villain Yajoribe ever killed?
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- ZenMasterBullshit
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Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream
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When are we going to get the Raditz movie!?
Unironically this. I want to see Goku revive his brother and try and bury the hatchet.
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Feb 5, 2015 08:04
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If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
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When are we going to get the Raditz movie!?
Oh poo poo that reminds me
quote:Interviewer: Rumor has it that you titled it after an energy supplement with “Z” in the name.
Toriyama:
That’s not true~. (laughs) “Z” is the last letter of the alphabet, right? Anyhow, from that time, I really already wanted to end the comic, (laughs) so I gave the title a “Z” with the meaning of “that’s all, folks~”. I don’t remember saying a single thing about there being an energy supplement. Rumors can be so wild. (laughs)
Nakatsuru:
Did you have any image of something other than the “Z”?
Toriyama:
No, I probably didn’t. I myself thought, “they don’t really have to change the title, do they?” but someone from the anime staff demanded it, saying “we want to freshen it up”, so I was just sort of like, “this should be fine”.
Nakatsuru:
Dragon Ball ends right with Goku getting married, then Dragon Ball Z starts with Goku’s older brother Raditz arriving.
Toriyama:
Wow, is that so? So it made a perfect dividing point, then.
Interviewer: … That’s [over] a decade ago, and you never realized it? (laughs)
Toriyama:
Hahaha. (laughs)
Toriyama doesn't give a gently caress
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/son-goku-densetsu-toriyama-x-nakatsuru/
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Feb 5, 2015 08:07
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Toriyama probably had little time to care since he was constantly writing and drawing, it's funny how he ends up less knowledgeable than most fans.
When are we going to get the Raditz movie!?
It's not a movie but here's the Raditz trailer, in which Raditz learns to DODGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g9UflsvAUQ
EDIT: Only now does the irony in Raditz dodging Piccolo occur to me.
HGH fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Feb 5, 2015
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If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
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Huh.
A couple years back I saw that one picture of a manga creator's schedule and it looked insane. Guess Toriyama was living the life!
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- SatansBestBuddy
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Huh.
A couple years back I saw that one picture of a manga creator's schedule and it looked insane. Guess Toriyama was living the life!
Probably Oda. Maybe Mashima. Could be anybody really, there's a lot of dudes working really hard in the manga world, but those are the two that pop into my head when I think "crazy work schedule".
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Feb 5, 2015 10:01
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- Last Celebration
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One of the Q&A sessions I saw in the Dragonball volumes had him saying that he pretty much spent all day in the living room drawing the comic with the TV on in the background though, so I'm not sure how much of the series, if any, he was actually slacking off for.
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Feb 5, 2015 11:31
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- Rohan Kishibe
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Frankly, I don't like you
and I never have.
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I think Toriyama famously was one mangaka who had no assistants, at least for a large part of the comic's run, so he was doing everything himself.
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Feb 5, 2015 11:53
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- Wheat Loaf
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Arcosian transformation is more like controlled mutation. Much like how a caterpillar will mutate into a butterfly to achieve flight, select Arocisans of the royal bloodline can mutate their bodies to accumulate more strength and ki.
The "first" form is the natural state for the Arcosian species and the form most of the species is stuck in for the entirety of their lives, but those with royal genetics can willfully enter a state of metamorphosis that twists their body into a new form with ever increasing power as they ascend upwards in stages of mutation, opening up their bodies to accept more ki. Theoretically there is no upper limit to these forms. One could wager an royal Arcosian with enough training and willpower could push their bodies to God-like levels of power. This is why Arcosians are presented as rival "brothers" and analogues to the Saiyans, they both have the same potential for power via mutation and transformation respectively. However the royal Arcosians successfully kept the Saiyans weak for millenia and thus had no need to attempt a mutation beyond the 4th and 5th tiers of their power. This makes sense, as going beyond the 4th form would make it highly unlikely for the Arcosian to assimilate into physical society very well. A single errant sneeze could lay waste to a city, after all.
Freeza is a special case in that unlike the rest of his royal family, he adopts the form of his lowborn brethren. However, this makes a kind of sick sense when you look at Freeza's personality. He revels in sadism and destruction, and is the most powerful of his species (including Cooler! But we'll get to that). Why not lower yourself to the primitive body of your subjects and sow rumour of your awesome power despite your lowborn appearance? It would be frightening to look upon your prince, who looks just like you, and knowing that at any moment he could unleash hell like a natural disaster given flesh. And it opens opportunity for subjects to question the power of their dear leader, who will then gladly demonstrate.
Cooler remains in his 4th form due to an amusing inferiority complex. You see, due to Cooler arriving on Earth within the first year or so after Trunks' arrival, when he and Goku fought Goku could not have been much more powerful than he was when he fought Freeza . A being who was able to, at least for a little while, stand toe to toe with a very angry Super Saiyan. Cooler, on the other hand, while in his 4th form barely equals to Goku in his base form! Already Cooler, for all his pompous bragging, has proven himself to be weaker than his own brother. Thus in a move of desperation he pushes himself to a new tier, a 5th form. Why look daddy! I've pushed past even Freeza's forms! Look at me! Look at me! Except that in Cooler's 5th form he is torn apart by a Super Saiyan with little effort. The same Super Saiyan that Freeza fought to a near standstill in only his fourth mutation!
Cooler is a jealous, angry sibling that is hurt that Freeza has surpassed him so completely that even by breaking the known limits of the royal bloodlines power isn't enough to rival his own baby brother.
Disappointed by the lack of footnotes explaining the role played by power levels.
Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Feb 5, 2015
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Feb 5, 2015 12:09
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- Onmi
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If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
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I think Toriyama famously was one mangaka who had no assistants, at least for a large part of the comic's run, so he was doing everything himself.
He did, he had one assistant temporarily. But most notably is that when he was doing Dragon Ball he hadn't done any research into what an adventure manga was supposed to do. Because while it's very stereotypical now, Dragon Ball was unique when it came out, because he'd never really bothered to do anything but write what seemed interesting. It's funny to see some of the changes. Like the whole Android debacle where 19 and 20 were the planned Androids. And then one of his old editors called him and basically insulted him that the "Long Awaited Villains" were an old guy and a fat man. So he made 16, 17 and 18. Whereupon nother tweet "So now it's teenagers." and then Cell and it kept going, and he kept getting bugged by a guy who wasn't his editor anymore till he was done with Perfect Cell.
Also I finally figured out why I really don't like watching Dragon Ball Z. Cause when you think about it... more characters develop in it. Piccolo, Krillin, Gohan, Vegeta all get a good bit of development and arcs and that stuffs all really cool and inevtiably everyones pathetic so Goku can save them. In Dragon Ball, yeah it's all pretty much Goku... but he's at least followed as the protagonist. In Z, Goku sits most of it out until the final fight.
Also, every arc after King Piccolo is just King Piccolo again, and that's kinda sad. Especially when you get to Buu and it's like "all right, 25th World Martial Arts tournament, new type of arc for Z- oh great another powerful bad guy who causes mass destruction, renders the balls inert, who everyone jobs against for Goku to destroy." If it wasn't for Satan and Mr. Buu (Going back to the earlier paragraph that more characters actually develop in Z compared to DB.) Buu would be unwatchable.
Onmi fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Feb 5, 2015
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Feb 5, 2015 12:23
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- rubberrazors
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Also I finally figured out why I really don't like watching Dragon Ball Z. Cause when you think about it [etc.]
This is basically how I feel about old Dragonball v Z. At least when Goku was getting into trouble with the RRA and having a hissy fit over King Piccolo, everyone thought he was an idiot with a death wish. In Z, they all rely on him to come and save the day everyday in the end.
Piccolo Jr. is both my favorite villain and least favorite ally because of this.
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Feb 5, 2015 14:18
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Dragon Balls? Are they tasty?
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My hope for "History of Trunks Abridged" is that we'll hear an anguished Gohan screaming "DODGE!!!" as the Androids kill Piccolo in the opener.
Edit: Also, Crunchy Roll has their first impressions of Xenoverse up, and it looks good so far! http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2015/02/04/feature-dragon-ball-xenoverse-hands-on-impressions
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Feb 5, 2015 14:24
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- Onmi
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If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
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To be entirely honest, all of shonen is like maybe three different arcs being repeated over and over. It's not really a problem as much as it's just how the genre is. 
I know but it's blatantly annoying because one of the good things about King Piccolo was being unique for Dragon Ball. the first death of a major protagonist, the previously unbeaten Roshi is killed, the Dragon is killed, arachy rules, Goku has been beaten to a pulp twice and Tenshinhan seems to be the only hero left, and he's willing to die to end the threat.
It works because the rest of Dragon Ball happened the way it happened. The fact that the Saiyan (To the least extent, it has its own problems though), Frieza, Cell and Buu arcs all repeat the same plot points over and over again is just. It gets to the point when "The dragonballs don't work anymore and EVERYONE IS DEAD" isn't even grounds for caring because the last 4 arcs have shown us that no matter what loss, the Dragon Balls will come back, They introduce "You can't be wished back if you've been brought back once." and then immediatly find a way around it.
Again, when it comes to characters I like Z more than vanilla, because more characters grow AS characters in Z. It's just they're all rendered useless by Goku which wasn't any different from normal but back then they didn't get development so who cared?
But in terms of story I don't really like Z.
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Feb 5, 2015 15:06
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- Azubah
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Have they said how many Original Characters Do Not Steal you can have in Xenoverse?
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Feb 5, 2015 15:33
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- Onmi
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If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
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I like how at the end of Cell it looked they were going with Gohan as The Guy now and then haha nope status quo forever
This was an editor call, while the Buu one was less hands on then previous ones, he convinced Toriyama that Goku would be better served as the protagonist.
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