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Majorian posted:\/\/\/yep, that too. Plus a lot of it was the English monarchy trying to claim the mantle of Roman hegemony as often as possible\/\/\/ Which is amusing since they conquered the last portion of the Empire to remain independent in the West.
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Naked, then. I get it.
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Majorian posted:\/\/\/yep, that too. Plus a lot of it was the English monarchy trying to claim the mantle of Roman hegemony as often as possible\/\/\/ A game the rest of Europe wasn't too shy about playing, either.
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Tomn posted:A game the rest of Europe wasn't too shy about playing, either. I don't know what you're talking about, I've never heard of something called the Holy Roman Empire!
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Which Third Rome is Thirdest Rome? -Ottoman Empire -German Empire -Bulgaria -Russia -Serbía -Austria -Fascist Italy (Only one to actually have Rome but also really poo poo)
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FreudianSlippers posted:Which Third Rome is Thirdest Rome? something something bolivia joke
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FreudianSlippers posted:Which Third Rome is Thirdest Rome? United States of America. 
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FreudianSlippers posted:Which Third Rome is Thirdest Rome? Romanians are the true sons of Rome Edit: But all are descended from Bosnian pyramid builders
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FreudianSlippers posted:Which Third Rome is Thirdest Rome? I say Russia - they're the most willing to blow up the rest of the world to prove it.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Which Third Rome is Thirdest Rome?  (We need a dejected legionary smith) ... In other news. The Malaysian founding myth apparently involves the king of Rome (!), a descendant of Alexander the Great (!!) travelling to China to unite these two great empires in marriage (!!!) and getting shipwrecked in Malaysia, only to save their people from oppression and found the ancient Malaysian kingdom. 1. Obviously this is the Thridiest of Third Romes. 2. Seriously though - are there other ancient peoples who  to Rome as furiously? (Also; what did the people around them think of Rome? Do we have Greeks writing about those Latin upstarts usurping the glory of Hellas? Gauls furious that their children's pants will be stripped? Parthians boasting stupid people wondering into their desert?) (Do we have travelogues from the era?)3. Semi-related: What did the Romans know about India? Trade, diplomatic embassies, reading up on furry ants in Herodotus? Did they think of it as the place where Alexander stopped, and thus the end-goal of any utopian/theoretical attempt to outdo him?
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I just had a thought-how damaged would an ancient Olympian's feet be from running in sandals so much?
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Feb 6, 2015 09:46
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Not that much? Your feet toughen up quite quickly, ask anyone who took up barefoot running in the last few years
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Probably not too bad, really. It's not like they had asphalt roads covered in nails and broken glass to contend with, and people who habitually run barefoot build up calluses pretty quickly. I mean, you probably wouldn't want to lick their toes or anything, but they wouldn't be freakishly deformed wads of lumpy scar tissue, either.
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I don't run barefoot, but I typically don't wear socks at all for about six months a year, and the friction from shoes and walking barefoot causes totally painless and harmless calluses that probably look horrible to people who generally freak out about feet, but... You know, it's just skin. The feet can take quite a beating as long as you don't cut them.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Which Third Rome is Thirdest Rome? Rum, so everyone can have a little Rome inside their bellies.
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It's utterly bizarre to say that British actors voice Romans because the British monarchy wanted to be seen as a Roman successor state. Much more obvious reason: Britain was the largest empire to exist in recent memory, as well as the defining empire in the American (the country making these movies) cultural experience. British actors playing Romans are usually evoking British imperial images and character types. Combine that with the British tradition of history plays, and you're done. There is also the convenience of having another nation that speaks your language that you can have playing the imperialists, so you don't have to depict yourselves as imperialists. Lastly, Britain is an old-world country, and America is not.
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Disinterested posted:It's utterly bizarre to say that British actors voice Romans because the British monarchy wanted to be seen as a Roman successor state. I would just blame Shakespeare's histories and the BBC. You see enough British guys playing Romans over time and you'll want to cast a British guy as the Roman in your show.
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Now that it's on Netflix, my wife broke down and decided to watch the last season of Spartacus. Really, I wonder how Romans practiced all that shaving and plucking without getting ingrown hairs all the time.
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Halloween Jack posted:Now that it's on Netflix, my wife broke down and decided to watch the last season of Spartacus. Really, I wonder how Romans practiced all that shaving and plucking without getting ingrown hairs all the time. Liberal moisturisation from routine application of olive oil.
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You see a lot of British actors in historical/fantasy settings because with British English it's easy to tell who's supposed to be a commoner and who isn't. If you couldn't see what was happening you'd still be able to tell that the dude with the Cockney accent is a peasant and the guy speaking in a more proper fashion probably isn't.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:You see a lot of British actors in historical/fantasy settings because with British English it's easy to tell who's supposed to be a commoner and who isn't. If you couldn't see what was happening you'd still be able to tell that the dude with the Cockney accent is a peasant and the guy speaking in a more proper fashion probably isn't. Vorenus and Pullo, for example, are literally imitating modern British squaddies, which is fairly obvious if you've ever met a squaddie.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Which Third Rome is Thirdest Rome? The Ottoman Empire which pretty much claimed the whole legacy of Rome and used the title "Emperor of Rome" beyond all others.
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homullus posted:I would just blame Shakespeare's histories and the BBC. You see enough British guys playing Romans over time and you'll want to cast a British guy as the Roman in your show. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just this. And since all that work was in English, it eventually transferred over to Hollywood via Osmosis.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Disinterested posted:Vorenus and Pullo, for example, are literally imitating modern British squaddies, which is fairly obvious if you've ever met a squaddie. Likewise Caesar and Co. were pretty close to the various British officers I've met over the years.
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sbaldrick posted:The Ottoman Empire which pretty much claimed the whole legacy of Rome and used the title "Emperor of Rome" beyond all others. Yeah, they (well, them and the Seljuks) even swallowed a nontrivial amount of the ERE fairly intact.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Yeah, they (well, them and the Seljuks) even swallowed a nontrivial amount of the ERE fairly intact. Mwahahahahaha.
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Disinterested posted:Vorenus and Pullo, for example, are literally imitating modern British squaddies, which is fairly obvious if you've ever met a squaddie. Maybe squaddies are just timeless. Many authors who have written of war seem to share things in common across the centuries.
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Xander77 posted:The Malaysian founding myth apparently involves link?
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Groda posted:link? Err... I'm basing this on the highly scientastic trailer a friend showed me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHSyLLiHRr4 May or may not correlate perfectly with actual ancient Malaysian mythology. Though I apparently misunderstood the reference to Alexander. 
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Xander77 posted:Err... I'm basing this on the highly scientastic trailer a friend showed me:  related videos
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I'm pretty sure the real founding story for all of these countries has something to do with Atlantis.
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JaucheCharly posted:
that's all based on your perverted search history
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Disinterested posted:I'm pretty sure the real founding story for all of these countries has something to do with Atlantis. You mean, Bolivia? HalPhilipWalker fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Feb 10, 2015 |
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Groda posted:that's all based on your perverted search history This video, dingus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKdC6pGb9II
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Disinterested posted:Lastly, Britain is an old-world country, and America is not. Kind of amusing that actual Roman Britain was the arse end of the Empire, really. It'd be like going a thousand years into the future and all depictions of historical Americans are Sarah Palin.
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feedmegin posted:Kind of amusing that actual Roman Britain was the arse end of the Empire, really. It'd be like going a thousand years into the future and all depictions of historical Americans are Sarah Palin. Yes, although curiously knowledge of the ancient Greek and Latin languages survived best in Ireland and England for the same reasons, which is why Charlemagne had to import monks from the British Isles to staff his clergy and kick off a new revolution in literacy.
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Disinterested posted:Yes, although curiously knowledge of the ancient Greek and Latin languages survived best in Ireland and England for the same reasons, which is why Charlemagne had to import monks from the British Isles to staff his clergy and kick off a new revolution in literacy. I think that Greek survived best in the Roman Empire. Not sure about the Latin though. Probably in the City of Rome?
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The Anglo Saxons strongly identified with Rome and had a strong academic / literacy / monastery culture.
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Hogge Wild posted:I think that Greek survived best in the Roman Empire. Not sure about the Latin though. Probably in the City of Rome? No, in mainland Europe the only widely known Latin even in scholarly circles was venarcularised proto-Romance language. Rome was certainly not the epicentre of a form of Latin that would be of use in reading classical texts - the British Isles were. See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolingian_Renaissance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcuin Or read a book about Carolingian Europe (Rosamund McKitterick is the go-to here).
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