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Jedit posted:In part. My last Haesteinn game I managed to take Brittany and hold it, but your best bet is to use the coastal CB to capture all of Ireland, which in 867 is almost entirely single province rulers and only has one non-coastal county. Not just coastal, also applies to a bordering cross-religion province. Then you invade one of the English kingdoms and subjugate whichever one of the piglets did the best, and then you're most of the way to Britannia. ...or take Sardinia, pledge allegiance to the Khazars, culture switch, and tribal invasion to victory (may have been nerfed since I tried that last).
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Funky Valentine posted:I still don't understand how people do amazing things with Haestein. Is it exploiting prepared invasions and the Norse coastal CB? Haestein is a rolling start, he's easy to build momentum with. Brittany has a decent number of holdings, so any prepared invasion is gonna be gently caress-off huge. The duchy also shatters into independent counts, so consolidation is fast. From there you can do pretty much anything, I like pirate lord of the Mediterranean but whatever floats your boat is totally possible.
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Feb 6, 2015 03:34
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Funky Valentine posted:I still don't understand how people do amazing things with Haestein. Is it exploiting prepared invasions and the Norse coastal CB? He starts with event troops, boats, 24+ martial depending on random traits and a single county. Include the Norse cbs and ability to change religion with concubines and you have a blank slate for all sorts of poo poo that may not otherwise be feasible.
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Feb 6, 2015 04:04
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Excelzior posted:I know for a fact you can with the 769 start, as that is what I did in my last run. Such a pretty white. Sounds fun. I've been debating on making a republic of flanders and then forming the HRE out of Francia that way.
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Feb 6, 2015 05:46
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ulmont posted:Not just coastal, also applies to a bordering cross-religion province. Then you invade one of the English kingdoms and subjugate whichever one of the piglets did the best, and then you're most of the way to Britannia. Pretty sure Nahua and Mongols are the only cultures who get invasion CB's.
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Feb 6, 2015 05:47
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Volkerball posted:Pretty sure Nahua and Mongols are the only cultures who get invasion CB's. Khazar is Altaic and gets Tribal Invasion as long as you're some kind of pagan. The Mongol and Nahua version works as long as you're not some kind of Christian.
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Feb 6, 2015 05:51
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Volkerball posted:Pretty sure Nahua and Mongols are the only cultures who get invasion CB's. They aren't.
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I finally got CM and had a go at a game as a ruler-designer'd count in Lombardy, now just formed a custom kingdom. It's going pretty well, but... How do I break up the Karling blob once it's formed? Charlemagne decided the HRE was for chumps and created Francia instead, so it's not like the Karling blob is an elective thunderdrome or anything, it's just a big gavelkind monster that I'm afraid to confront.
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Feb 6, 2015 06:10
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Knuc U Kinte posted:They aren't. Turks get them too, right? Or is that just Seljuk?
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Feb 6, 2015 06:35
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ninjahedgehog posted:Turks get them too, right? Or is that just Seljuk? Altaic pagans get them and Muslims have a special invasion cb that has different conditions.
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Feb 6, 2015 06:50
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Funky Valentine posted:I still don't understand how people do amazing things with Haestein. Is it exploiting prepared invasions and the Norse coastal CB? Like others have mentioned, Haesteinn is a pretty huge blank slate. With your event troops, you can declare simultaneous conquests on everyone else in The only issue, which I've mentioned before, is that the kingdom of Brittany consists entirely of the single duchy of Brittany, so you need to look elsewhere to get the kingdom title. Cornwall is a nice option, as is Ireland or Sardinia. And you need to be careful with a holy war or prepared invasion CB, because the entirety of Christendom will be on your tits.
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Feb 6, 2015 08:51
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Is it possible to do a prepared invasion of Frisia? Still looking for ways to get that Dutch Merchant Republic up and running, and Dutch Viking Merchant Republic (raiding AND trading) sounds like it could be a lot of fun.
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How much of a pain is it to change castes as an Indian ruler? I'm Buddhist Hasteinn in England and the single county holy war is painful.SurreptitiousMuffin posted:Is it possible to do a prepared invasion of Frisia? Still looking for ways to get that Dutch Merchant Republic up and running, and Dutch Viking Merchant Republic (raiding AND trading) sounds like it could be a lot of fun. As long as you fulfil the holding requirements, yes. I dunno why it wouldn't be. I invaded it as Erik the Heathen and it was the perfect place from which to permanently cripple Christianity.
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Feb 6, 2015 10:03
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Knuc U Kinte posted:How much of a pain is it to change castes as an Indian ruler? I'm Buddhist Hasteinn in England and the single county holy war is painful. Go Hindu, get 200 karma and six years of your income and you're good to go. If you have 12 learning it's just three years, IIRC.
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Feb 6, 2015 10:36
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Mr.Morgenstern posted:Go Hindu, get 200 karma and six years of your income and you're good to go. If you have 12 learning it's just three years, IIRC. It doesn't work since I don't have any hindu provinces. Whoops.
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Feb 6, 2015 10:51
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Wow regents are massive dicks now. My own mother who has no relations in power aside from me, lowers my crown authority and won't approve any matrilineal marriages for my sister, who is my heir. Why?
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Feb 6, 2015 11:43
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Well poo poo, that didn't work. Haestein is feudal. gently caress it, I'm just going to console it to get it set up. How do I console back to tribal?
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Knuc U Kinte posted:Wow regents are massive dicks now. My own mother who has no relations in power aside from me, lowers my crown authority and won't approve any matrilineal marriages for my sister, who is my heir. Why? As for the marriages, I think if your parents end up calling the shots on that they only let you marry people of their culture? I'm pretty sure that's how it works anyways.
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Feb 6, 2015 13:31
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I'm pretty sure the crown authority bullshit in regencies is there specifically to nerf Ultimogeniture. Which if so is an understandable design decision; successions are supposed to be painful, that's a lot of the point of the game. I just wish there was a less transparently bullshit way to get there, in this particular case.
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One way to deal with it is to stop having children after 2 or 3 sons. Imprision your wife if shes too young.
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Feb 6, 2015 16:00
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Do folks have some sorta phobia 'gainst the wiki? http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Tribal_Invasion#Tribal_Invasion Anyway, Empires as a Feudal Norse aren't too hard, especially by the time you qualify for the requirements. One great thing about Hæsteinn too is that he can go Breton and grab Tanistry, which is a loving hilarious inheritance law that I wish were easier to get.
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Feb 6, 2015 17:23
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Elias_Maluco posted:One way to deal with it is to stop having children after 2 or 3 sons. Imprision your wife if shes too young. You can try that, sure. Before long you'll discover that it's a fantastic way to find yourself with one living son and an Ambitious Envious brother sitting second in line.
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So, something must have gone ugly while I was busy loving with the Byzantines : apparently my dynasty members were busy loving with each other. I died at the ripe age of 73, and my chosen heir (elective monarchy), by far the best man in the family with Genius, 23 diplo and 12+ everything else, had chosen the seduction focus while I was looking the other way and had something like 5 trueborn kids and 8 bastards, 6 lovers aged 20 to 50, and one wife that understandably hated his guts. Not only that: I had given most duchies to brothers / cousins, and they all married their children to each other's children, and it's a big clusterfuck of inbreeding and bastards everywhere since apparently the AI just loves the Seduction focus, everybody wants to bang everything that moves, ESPECIALLY their family  Then this guy also kicked the bucket, switched to his decent 30-something old son that I had already properly groomed, but now I don't have any decent heirs besides an uncle with awesome stats but lunatic and pretty old. My current son is not of age and everybody prefers the cousin-loving lunatic guy to a genius 8 year old kid. This is fun, but I think I might be getting screwed soon. Literally. By my lunatic uncle.
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Brutus Salad posted:As for the marriages, I think if your parents end up calling the shots on that they only let you marry people of their culture? I'm pretty sure that's how it works anyways. Giving my mother some gold always clears that up for me.
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TorakFade posted:So, something must have gone ugly while I was busy loving with the Byzantines : apparently my dynasty members were busy loving with each other. Now you are the Karlings. He who hunts monsters...
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Eric the Mauve posted:You can try that, sure. Before long you'll discover that it's a fantastic way to find yourself with one living son and an Ambitious Envious brother sitting second in line. It sucks, but its way better than having a newborn as heir and then having to endure a 16 years regency with the regent loving everything you did. Also, getting married to an older woman and/or a lesbian. But getting to high crown authority and switching to primo ASAP is the best solution of course. Unfortunately, that usually takes a generation or two.
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A friend of mine and I are thinking of doing a multuplayer game, if we can get it working, but neither of us has ever played CK2 in multiplayer before so we're not sure what the good starts are. We thought up several possible scenarios: -One of us starting as a Welsh duke or count and the other a Irish one and both of us trying to form a kingdom. -Starting as separate Mongol Hordes and racing each other to the Atlantic. -Starting as vassals in a large realm. -Playing Byzantines and trying to recreate the Roman Empire. -Playing seperate republics and fighting for control of Mediteranian trade. -KaliMa-ing motherfuckers all across the Indian subcontinent. Any suggestions for good multiplayers starts?
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A fun multiplayer games is always to choose a large realm and ruler design large vassals to a Hersey or other religion and rot the realm from within..
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Feb 6, 2015 19:25
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Rival patrician families.
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FreudianSlippers posted:A friend of mine and I are thinking of doing a multuplayer game, if we can get it working, but neither of us has ever played CK2 in multiplayer before so we're not sure what the good starts are. Ive never played MP either, buit something I always wanted to try is to have all human players start as vassal dukes of a big empire (Bizantines, HRE or the Arabian Empire, for ex.) and the challenge would be to fight your way up to the empire title and try to keep it from the other players.
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Oh! As a test the other day, just to see if it worked, I consoled a bunch of positive traits onto a temple vassal and then made him an antipope... And got exactly no money from this? I was just doing it as a test anyways, but could someone please explain what happened? He showed up as one, moral authority went down et al, but he wasn't paying me anything.
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Golden Horde vs Ilkhanate sounds baller but I'm not sure if it's possible. Would be really close to game end too. Maybe East vs West Francia?
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Denmark vs Shipjod
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:Well poo poo, that didn't work. Haestein is feudal. gently caress it, I'm just going to console it to get it set up. How do I console back to tribal? I'm not sure you can. The easiest way with the console would be to find a random mayor in the county that you want to be your republics county. Give him culture norse and religion germanic. Then grant that mayor the county and duchy titles, and he'll form a republic. Then you can give him other counties in the duchy or independence or whatever you want to do.
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I'm having trouble with the subscribe install for CK2+. When i try to play it, a black window pops up and immediately closes with no message or error report.
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"Yeah, I totally hate the Pope now. Man, what a douche. Now pay me please."
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Quick question - When do you guys transform tribal into feudal? Every time I do it I am severely hinder militarily.
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ThirstyTurtle posted:Quick question - When do you guys transform tribal into feudal? Every time I do it I am severely hinder militarily. So why do it?
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