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monster on a stick posted:I've been wanting to watch Red Cliff but my knowledge of period Chinese history isn't exactly great. Am I going to be lost and should I read some Cliff Notes version of Romance of the Three Kingdoms first or just go in blind and enjoy John Woo making a five hour war epic?
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If you ever have to "prepare" for a movie, then the movie done hosed up.
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Feb 2, 2015 07:16
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I mean I have to mentally prepare for most Gaspar Noe films, but then I guess they are also pretty hosed up.
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Feb 2, 2015 07:44
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:If you ever have to "prepare" for a movie, then the movie done hosed up.
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Feb 2, 2015 21:05
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:If the preparation is movie specific, yeah. But many films expect a certain cultural or historical knowledge and I don't think that's necessarily unreasonable. Sure, but among the general crew here and people who are movie "fans", and not just mainstream viewers, I would assume that knowledge to be there, even to small degree. I mean, the fact that Monster on a Stick even thought to look up the Three Kingdoms stuff shows he's at least aware of the setting and rough plot outline. Mainstream viewers would need to prepare for an Inspector Gadget movie.
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Feb 2, 2015 21:50
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The original cut of Red Cliff is great if you don't mind subtitles and 4 hours 40 minutes of a movie.
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Feb 2, 2015 22:19
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Any opinions on Laz Diaz, I've only just heard of him but he sounds perfect as I admire both Tarr and Tarkovsky.
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Feb 2, 2015 22:55
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give up a day. Just let the images and the time effect wash over you. Don't worry about clinging on to every detail. Come out a changed person. He is a lot more crude a filmmkaer than Tarr or Tarkovsky (though recently he has grown in this respect). Shooting on video, 'ugly' framing , 'ugly' editing, putting little things in to disrupt typical aesthetic pleasure; his narratives are looser to sometimes seeming non-existent, and when they are very existent they nearly take on soap opera or exploitation form. He is also a lot slower (slower than slow), but there's always something to look at even when there's not. And that's his effect: scene's of nothing and ugliness filling, shifting and unravelling to these epics on grace or the apocalypse. Just like Tarr and Tarkovsky. A test of time and patience but i think his is among the most rewarding in film today. Thankfully he is also a very parochial filmmaker and knowing something about Filipino society and history may help with gluing things together (but i will say in my case it hasn't been essential). He doesn't fill in any blanks for the viewer in this regard. A history of colonisation, the Marcos dictatorship, the ripples of that into now, Catholicism, natural disasters - the Philippines. Maybe start with Norte the End of History. It's the most easily available (in Europe and America) and really the most easily appreciable and technically accomplished. And is one of his shorter movies. But still long. Very long. Melancholia is my favourite of his for what it's worth.
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Feb 3, 2015 02:16
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regulargonzalez posted:The one where Exodus, Out of the Furnace, Flowers of War, and Terminator: Salvation make up his output of the last few years. Which universe are you from, and has he made better choices there? His output during that period also includes Batman, American Hustle and The Fighter. It's not even a streak of bad movies.
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Feb 3, 2015 02:36
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xcore posted:His output during that period also includes Batman, American Hustle and The Fighter. It's not even a streak of bad movies. Yeah, The Fighter was also excellent. I get if someone doesn't like the Batman movies, that's totally understandable, but Christian Bale has made plenty of good films recently...
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Snak posted:Yeah, The Fighter was also excellent. I get if someone doesn't like the Batman movies, that's totally understandable, but Christian Bale has made plenty of good films recently... The argument could definitely be made that his output does not fully realize his potential.
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Feb 3, 2015 18:59
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Is the first Mad Max really essential or can I just skip to The Road Warrior without missing anything 
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Feb 5, 2015 23:50
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TheFallenEvincar posted:Is the first Mad Max really essential or can I just skip to The Road Warrior without missing anything No, but yes. It's not essential viewing, you won't miss much as The Road Warrior does a very brief recap of why Max is Mad. However, Mad Max is a good movie and has my favorite villain of the series, Toecutter.
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MacheteZombie posted:No, but yes. There does seem to be a consensus about skipping the third one at least.
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Feb 6, 2015 00:02
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Nah, Beyond Thunderdome is cool. The weakest of the three, but still cool. Besides, if you don't watch it you'll never find out who run Bartertown.
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Feb 6, 2015 00:29
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TheFallenEvincar posted:Yeah, I keep hearing it's got the best villain of the series so I guess I'll just stick with it even if it's kinda underwhelming right now. I guess when I thought of Mad Max I associated it with the post-apocalyptic fullblown chaos of the second one and didn't realize the first was just about like, biker gangs. Each film progresses further into the post-apocalypse. The first basically takes place as civilization collapses, its set during the apocalypse. I don't know if you haven't checked out the Mad Max thread I recommend it for some further reading about the series if you're interested in the topic after you watch the movies. Also, don't skip Thunderdome. Maybe fast forward through bits of it, but Bartertown and the action sequences are all worth a watch. Suggested moment to fast forward through: the kids
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Feb 6, 2015 00:55
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I just watched Under the Skin, and it was a really cool experience. What is the significance of the guy on the motorcycle? Is he an alien too? It's kind of the only thing I couldn't figure out.
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Feb 6, 2015 16:56
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Rurea posted:I just watched Under the Skin, and it was a really cool experience. Yes, he is apparently her boss or "handler", and is hunting her down after she goes rogue. It was an odd decision to include all that since he has no bearing on the end.
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Feb 6, 2015 17:02
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Eggnogium posted:Yes, he is apparently her boss or "handler", and is hunting her down after she goes rogue. It was an odd decision to include all that since he has no bearing on the end. I don't really agree with that. She must know that he is after her and that affects how she behaves when she goes it alone. He also serves to add menace and jeopardy to the whole thing, and to demonstrate how the aliens usually are - even if there isn't a direct pay-off.
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Feb 6, 2015 17:16
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therattle posted:I don't really agree with that. She must know that he is after her and that affects how she behaves when she goes it alone. He also serves to add menace and jeopardy to the whole thing, and to demonstrate how the aliens usually are - even if there isn't a direct pay-off. Fair enough. I wasn't trying to say it was bad or anything, just that most movies cutting between a pursuant and a pursuer would be telegraphing a confrontation between them at some point. But Under the Skin is not most movies.
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Next question, was the movie made specifically for Scarlett Johansson, or with her in mind? It feels like it was a specific commentary on how huge movie stars like her view the world from this outsider/alien perspective and how men lust after her and overly-sexualize her. I guess it could have worked with a different actress, but it was an extremely effective casting choice. Also, what other movies would people recommend that are similar in style or tone to Under the Skin?
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Feb 6, 2015 17:36
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Rurea posted:Next question, was the movie made specifically for Scarlett Johansson, or with her in mind? It feels like it was a specific commentary on how huge movie stars like her view the world from this outsider/alien perspective and how men lust after her and overly-sexualize her. I guess it could have worked with a different actress, but it was an extremely effective casting choice. It's probably already been mentioned, but try Enemy and The Strange Color of Your Body's Tears.
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Feb 6, 2015 17:39
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Rurea posted:Also, what other movies would people recommend that are similar in style or tone to Under the Skin?
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Feb 6, 2015 18:48
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Slugworth posted:Upstream Color. It's a little less coherent than Under The Skin, but I think comparable in style. And it's really good. One of the most emotionally immersive films I've seen.
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Feb 6, 2015 19:59
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Are there any movies where the antagonist is in marketing or sales?
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Feb 7, 2015 16:31
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tuyop posted:Are there any movies where the antagonist is in marketing or sales? Thank You For Smoking? Most famously, Glengarry Glen Ross How To Get Ahead In Advertising?
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Feb 7, 2015 16:43
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tuyop posted:Are there any movies where the antagonist is in marketing or sales? I want to say In The Company Of Men, although I don't remember precisely what the characters' occupation was.
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therattle posted:Thank You For Smoking? Perfect, I had forgotten about that! Thanks.
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tuyop posted:Are there any movies where the antagonist is in marketing or sales? What Women Want with Mel Gibson. Wait, you said antagonist?
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Feb 7, 2015 19:46
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tuyop posted:Are there any movies where the antagonist is in marketing or sales? Fargo.
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The Goods? would that count? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1092633/
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The Wolf of Wall Street too.
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North By Northwest e: never mind, that's the protagonist. Tomorrow Never Dies okay? SixFigureSandwich fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Feb 8, 2015 |
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Feb 7, 2015 23:50
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Boiler Room.
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Feb 7, 2015 23:58
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Feb 8, 2015 00:25
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I've heard Pan's Labyrinth meets my criteria. T/F?
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Feb 8, 2015 02:58
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tuyop posted:I've heard Pan's Labyrinth meets my criteria. T/F? Fascism does have a lot of propaganda but I don't think it counts as either marketing or sales.
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Can someone briefly run down or link to a vfx breakdown on District 9? I'm particularly interested in how they went about inserting CG characters into scenes filmed by handheld cameras on outdoor sets. I always assumed you'd need to shoot multiple passes of a scene with motion capture people for the reference and then without for the plate or whatever they call it but I don't see how that would work on a movie like D9.
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Feb 8, 2015 09:48
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In a nutshell, they usually build a duplicate of the set in CG, and animate a virtual camera to match the camera movements in the real footage. Then they animate the CG creature on the virtual set, and since the virtual set and camera is matched to the real footage, the character will be matched as well. There's a ton of massaging though with the finished character CG footage when they do compositing to get everything matching perfectly.
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The "handheld" shake might all be added in post or possibly they're using some sort of motorized rig where the shake is pre-programmed which allows them to film the scene dozens of times with the exact same shakes.
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