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The Jumpoff posted:I beat the new bullshit that is Lil' Hunter, I don't die immediately in the labs, I get through the dogs and IDPD guarding the throne, i kill the thrones first form and am forced to die to two cops in the second form because i ran out of ammo with Y.V.. The worst part is I even had recycle gland, but the only good bullet weapon that dropped the whole run was a Hyper Rifle that didn't come through the portal. I somehow managed to beat the throne with laser pistol / flame shotgun no laser brain and of course no laser ammo after. So when 3 shielders spawned...
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# ? Feb 6, 2015 02:48 |
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I managed to beat the throne and get to that godawful sewers boss again a couple days ago. It was actually looking like I would win when the game had enough of my poo poo and decided to put a shield on the opposite side of the boss with no way to get to it. They seriously need to be scaled back in more ways than one. Too much health, ability is incredibly obnoxious (in my opinion reflecting your attacks is just not good design in this game since it's so fast paced), gets a super accurate SMG, and their bullets fly extremely fast which is a big deal in this game. At this point I just never play rogue because she's pretty much "you liked dying to shields? Now that can happen an even greater percentage of the time!"
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# ? Feb 6, 2015 02:55 |
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Once you start to pretend that Horror and Rebel are the only playable characters, the enemy design makes a ton more sense.
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# ? Feb 6, 2015 04:04 |
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And shielders still make no loving sense, they punish you for going too fast and make you play a game of hide and seek to not die, Rebel allies are a liability against them and horror has no distinct advantage other than projectile destruction. It's pretty mindboggling that they haven't been changed at all in nearly a year, they are basically minibosses.
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# ? Feb 6, 2015 17:24 |
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Oh, jesus. I picked up a golden wrench as YV to use it when I was out of ammo and died. it didn't save praise yv
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# ? Feb 6, 2015 21:46 |
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gently caress melee enemies and their multiple instances of damage per second bullshit
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# ? Feb 6, 2015 22:23 |
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AndroidHub posted:And shielders still make no loving sense, they punish you for going too fast and make you play a game of hide and seek to not die, Rebel allies are a liability against them and horror has no distinct advantage other than projectile destruction. It's pretty mindboggling that they haven't been changed at all in nearly a year, they are basically minibosses. If reflected ally bullets are giving you trouble, you're not spawning *enough* allies, real talk. The IDPD shield is on a timer, but your shield lasts for as long as you can right click. Horror isn't specifically an answer to shielders, just high health enemies in general since he too doesn't run out of ammo.
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# ? Feb 6, 2015 22:46 |
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Man, robot sure is fun. I got his throne butt, rabbit's paw and the crown of guns. Guns. Guns everywhere. Rooms full of guns, and a plentiful ammo supply because I was eating the guns I didn't want.
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# ? Feb 7, 2015 00:06 |
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I liked Fish better when he was a chill rear end fish and not a creature from the black lagoon. Thankfully, the in-game sprite didn't change.
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# ? Feb 7, 2015 01:07 |
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Doctor Goat posted:Oh, jesus. I picked up a golden wrench as YV to use it when I was out of ammo and died. Even if it does, you can just drop the golden weapon and die which resets you back to default. This does work with YV's golden revolver as far as I'm aware. This came in handy when I accidentally picked up my friend's Golden Revolver right before dying as Chicken and started spawning without the sword.
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# ? Feb 7, 2015 01:10 |
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Here's this week's update http://steamcommunity.com/games/nuclearthrone/announcements/detail/119679301071948380quote:Features
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 07:29 |
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Bullshit, Q was ideal for switching weapons.
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 07:42 |
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I'm sure Q being disabled is just a stopgap measure for now. It does suck but at least now my inability to not press Q will no longer result in my death.
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 07:53 |
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Yeah, I'm a bit salty about that, I might just end up using ahk or something to restore the functionality.
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 07:53 |
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Just use Steroids exclusively, never worry about it again
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 17:15 |
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I promise it'll take you a day or two to get used to spacebar. What does "removed friction from bolts" mean? It penetrates more?
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 19:51 |
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jackofarcades posted:I promise it'll take you a day or two to get used to spacebar. They slide out of your hands so you can't reload
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 19:56 |
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I think they fixed melee guys instantly one-shotting you at any health level, which is cool if true.
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 19:59 |
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is gamma guts as bad as i think it is
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 20:00 |
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Tollymain posted:is gamma guts as bad as i think it is Right now it's just a worse version of Sharp Teeth
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 20:01 |
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Well at least the IDPD don't deal contact damage, so Gamma Guts has that going for it. Still I only take it when the other mutation options are like Last Wish, Extra Feet, and Eagle Eyes or some weapon mutation that I don't need that run. e: oh and probably don't take Impact Wrists as Rebel, the flying corpses will damage your allies. Xenogenesis fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Feb 8, 2015 |
# ? Feb 8, 2015 20:38 |
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Gamma Guts works on bandits and crows so if you want to save bullets you can just strafe through them. It doesn't work on worms, rats, scorpions or other walking hitboxes though.
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 20:41 |
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Xenogenesis posted:Well at least the IDPD don't deal contact damage, so Gamma Guts has that going for it. Still I only take it when the other mutation options are like Last Wish, Extra Feet, and Eagle Eyes or some weapon mutation that I don't need that run. i'd rather take eagle eyes or extra feet over gamma guts i think
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 20:54 |
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Tollymain posted:i'd rather take eagle eyes or extra feet over gamma guts i think Yeah I'm not saying either of those are bad mutations, just personally Extra Feet makes it harder for me to bob and weave, and I prefer the larger spread of weapons like Super Crossbow or Laser Minigun on loops. but i am saying Last Wish is a bad mutation
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 20:58 |
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Last wish is really only very rarely useful. only picked it once because I had bad luck wigh ammo drops and needed some. It's not a permanent upgrade like the other mutations so it's only ever useful when out of ammo. And even then you might prefer going straight for the weapon and ammo chest on the next level.
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 21:42 |
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Last Wish can be good on Chicken because it restores any max HP she has lost from decapitations, but then again, I'm not sure if I want to play Chicken again after this patch.
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 21:45 |
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I think they need to go back to the drawing board and scrap Lil Hunter entirely because the concept is just completely counter to the pace of the game and he is not very fun to play against, especially if you roll a bad level.
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 22:10 |
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Reiley posted:I think they fixed melee guys instantly one-shotting you at any health level, which is cool if true. False. I died like 5 times as Crystal from 10 HP from a single assassin swing. Unless you meant other melee guys, in which case I don't know. But gently caress assassin's forever,
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 22:39 |
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Don't take big health chests, the game will crash when you touch it.
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 22:41 |
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Reiley posted:I think they fixed melee guys instantly one-shotting you at any health level, which is cool if true. I can confirm that this is false.
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 22:41 |
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Does Chicken get full attack speed back with her Throne Butt
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 23:02 |
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Tollymain posted:is gamma guts as bad as i think it is
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 23:17 |
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Reiley posted:Gamma Guts works on bandits and crows so if you want to save bullets you can just strafe through them. It doesn't work on worms, rats, scorpions or other walking hitboxes though. It kills worms, and the damage effect bounces rats/scorpions/crystalspiders away slightly preventing them from doing the "Oh you missed? rubrubrubyou'redead" instant murder. It's still not amazing, but it gives that little bit of protection from instant idiocy death.
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 23:39 |
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I think extra feet is actually not bad and does a lot to protect you from enemies who do damage by touching you, since it lets you outrun them. Then you can also dodge bullets by just running far out of the way of all of them instead of having to navigate through them. It's not great but definitely better than gamma guts, which I think I'd say is the worst upgrade in the game.
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# ? Feb 9, 2015 00:20 |
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I'd say shotgun fingers / euphoria (except on eyes) / last wish / eyes ultra mutation with the holding bullets are worse compared to gamma guts in most situations.
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# ? Feb 9, 2015 00:42 |
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what if you combined sharp teeth and gamma guts and added damage resistance from enemy melee, would it be on parity with good mutations then
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# ? Feb 9, 2015 00:43 |
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Samopsa posted:I'd say shotgun fingers / euphoria (except on eyes) / last wish / eyes ultra mutation with the holding bullets are worse compared to gamma guts in most situations. Shotgun fingers is pretty good actually. I really like it with the Slugger variants.
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# ? Feb 9, 2015 00:43 |
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Improbable Lobster posted:Shotgun fingers is pretty good actually. I really like it with the Slugger variants. Yeah, if you can find a good shotgun it's surprisingly good. I loved firing a wave gun at basically random and racking up kills. Does anyone else find explosive weapons to be overall...kind of utter garbage? You stand a good chance of getting yourself killed with them unless you pick up boiling veins, and even then it hardly feels like the risk is worth the pretty weak reward you get when it comes to their damage output. Slime fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Feb 9, 2015 |
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Slime posted:Does anyone else find explosive weapons to be overall...kind of utter garbage? You stand a good chance of getting yourself killed with them unless you pick up boiling veins, and even then it hardly feels like the risk is worth the pretty weak reward you get when it comes to their damage output. I like a lot of them. Grenade launcher and bazooka are both solid, and I hardly ever damage myself with them. You just need to be careful. I think the damage on both of those is pretty good, maybe not as high as some weapons but being able to blow up walls, hit stuff around corners, etc, is really good. For crazy stuff like the gatling bazooka, you really should take boiling veins though.
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i just unlocked horror by going rebel and summoning as many allies as i could before embracing the sweet jaws of death and letting them avenge me
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