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elgarbo posted:I'd be interested to know the rationale behind including yourself in this shot... Sometimes you can't avoid it, there wasn't an angle that would work. The sun was really low and directly behind me. deaders fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Feb 7, 2015 |
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Just sayin, this is 2 minutes with the low-res file...
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elgarbo posted:I'd be interested to know the rationale behind including yourself in this shot... He's a man of the land~
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365 Nog Hogger posted:Just sayin, this is 2 minutes with the low-res file... Yeah I could obviously get rid of the shadow but (and I'm not some anti-editing nut) it just doesn't really go with my reasons for taking these photos. I'm interested in the landscape and how we interact with it, there is no pretense that I'm not there impacting and changing the scene as a drive or walk through it. It wasn't possible to eliminate the shadow completely so I made the compromise of positioning it there in that clear patch so that it became part of the photo. Do I clone out the power lines too? What if there was some litter in the bushes, start getting rid of that? alkanphel posted:He's a man of the land~ Not sure if this is sarcasm but that is actually part of it.
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deaders posted:Yeah I could obviously get rid of the shadow but (and I'm not some anti-editing nut) it just doesn't really go with my reasons for taking these photos. I'm interested in the landscape and how we interact with it, there is no pretense that I'm not there impacting and changing the scene as a drive or walk through it. Ah, I hadn't gotten that from your response to elgarbo, so I thought it was
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deaders posted:Not sure if this is sarcasm but that is actually part of it. It was more of a joke, but I was also thinking of the shadow selfies Lee Friedlander took in that style.
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deaders posted:Yeah I could obviously get rid of the shadow but (and I'm not some anti-editing nut) it just doesn't really go with my reasons for taking these photos. I'm interested in the landscape and how we interact with it, there is no pretense that I'm not there impacting and changing the scene as a drive or walk through it. The trouble is, when you deliberately insert yourself, or your shadow, into a scene, the subject becomes you - not the scene. A landscape - garbage, power lines and all, even including other people - stops being a landscape when it becomes about you. Maybe I'm wrong about this and "no rules in art" and all that, but if there's one consistent thing about a landscape photograph, it's that the photographer should be invisible.
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# ? Feb 7, 2015 16:50 |
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Sounds like it should be in the street photography thread instead.
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# ? Feb 7, 2015 18:59 |
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The photographer isn't invisible, they're behind the frame.
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ansel autisms posted:The photographer isn't invisible, they're behind the frame. Well yeah, that's a good way to describe it... They're the eyes you're looking through.
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Linedance posted:Maybe I'm wrong about this and "no rules in art" and all that, but if there's one consistent thing about a landscape photograph, it's that the photographer should be invisible. Thats dumb.
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Sorry to interrupt the spergfest (what a proper thread icon) but here is an experimental shot I took in the jungle in Argentina. Straight out of camera. I shot wide open (XF 23mm f/1.4) and used the high speed electronic shutter to capture the moisture droplets in midair. I tried focusing on the end of the log, but the shot focusing on the middle of the log has a more atmospheric and cinematic look. Click the link and see the full size on Flickr so you can see the detail with the droplets. I love that lens its so sharp. Untitled by Mannymall
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Putrid Grin posted:Thats dumb. I'll give an example of what I mean. Apologies for the phone photos, but it's what I have access to at the moment. Landscape Me on a snowboard = not landscape
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Linedance posted:Me on a snowboard = not landscape I wouldn't say it's not a landscape, but I do agree that the shadow in his photo doesn't work...at least for me. I do love the power lines though. To each their own I guess.
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Linedance posted:I'll give an example of what I mean. Apologies for the phone photos, but it's what I have access to at the moment. I just feel like its not as cut and dry as you make it out to be. While in general I feel that photography classification into landscapes and portraits and such is a bit reductive, I do see your point to a degree, where the human element in many instances becomes a main point of interest due to the way our brains are wired. Classification is a broad spectrum, and not a set of checkboxes. I feel that explorations of how the presence of a photographer affects the landscape around them still classifies as landscape, even though they may feature human elements. Anyways, you could crop the right edge of the snowboard and center the composition afterwards and I would deem it a fine landscape. Anyways, just my personal opinion and I didn't mean to come off so harshly.
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I think there's a valid case that can be made for the photographer including themself in a landscape. But in this particular case,, it's not speaking to me. I look at deaders' photo and it's hard to see past the shadow.
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# ? Feb 7, 2015 22:31 |
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Great shots. Where is it?
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deaders posted:Neergabby, January 2015 by Simon Deadman, on Flickr Vinter by dabrovnijk, on Flickr erephus fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Feb 7, 2015 |
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Linedance posted:The trouble is, when you deliberately insert yourself, or your shadow, into a scene, the subject becomes you - not the scene. A landscape - garbage, power lines and all, even including other people - stops being a landscape when it becomes about you. Maybe I'm wrong about this and "no rules in art" and all that, but if there's one consistent thing about a landscape photograph, it's that the photographer should be invisible. The photographer is always visible so your rule is not a thing. Like someone else mentioned, Lee Friedlander is an obvious example but there are many others. Also, if it doesn't work for pukestain pal then I am even more happy with it. Glad to see some actual discussion though
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Animal posted:Great shots. Where is it? This is from up in Waterton Lakes National Park in Canada, the sibling park to Glacier National Park in Montana.
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deaders posted:Also, if it doesn't work for pukestain pal then I am even more happy with it. That's what I'm here for!
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# ? Feb 8, 2015 01:12 |
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Untitled by Dev Luns, on Flickr
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Jurong West by alkanphel, on Flickr
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Santa Monica Pier by francography, on Flickr Going through some older photos What lies inside the mountain? by francography, on Flickr Mendenhall Glacier by francography, on Flickr somnambulist fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Feb 8, 2015 |
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somnambulist posted:Going through some older photos These are wonderful subjects, and I can't help but think these photos would have been even more powerful with a bit of tweaking to the composition. Having the eye leading to the centre-but-not-quite of the mountain shot is a little of-putting to me, and I get the impression you could have made more use of the dark area on the left to make the shot more dramatic, since it feels like there isn't an awful lot going on on the right hand side of the frame. On the gracier shot, it's a similar thing - I find that pictures where you lead the eye to close to the centre of the frame generally work best when you've got a lot of symmetry or there's a really good reason to do so, but here it seems to me it diminishes the impact of the scene. A different, more extreme perspective with a wider angle might have helped, or even a close-up of the ice might have made for an interesting abstract landscape. Jimlad fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Feb 8, 2015 |
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MOS_2402-6 by sporklift, on Flickr
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Baltimore Skylin by Paul Frederiksen, on Flickr Rice Paddy by Paul Frederiksen, on Flickr vxsarin fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Feb 9, 2015 |
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SD 140 1 Aspirations of Canoe Unloading by Execudork, on Flickr SD 140 6 by Execudork, on Flickr SD 140 7 by Execudork, on Flickr SD 140 16 by Execudork, on Flickr SD 140 28 by Execudork, on Flickr
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Franklin falls Dam by cha_reckoning, on Flickr Dam by cha_reckoning, on Flickr
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# ? Feb 9, 2015 02:49 |
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I think this one is mf'ing badass.
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# ? Feb 9, 2015 07:15 |
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Lake Superior Shoreline by wallofinsanity, on Flickr
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sporklift posted:
is this upper mt tabor? edit: ah yup a cyberpunk goose fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Feb 9, 2015 |
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Animal posted:Sorry to interrupt the spergfest (what a proper thread icon) but here is an experimental shot I took in the jungle in Argentina. Straight out of camera. I dig the way the water droplets kinda seem like film grain. Loving the perspective on the trees. Spime Wrangler posted:
Really like the composition on this one. Great colors in an otherwise bleak looking setting. Mido posted:is this upper mt tabor? Yeah. Haven't been up there in a while. Easy to forget awesome places that are just down the street.
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sporklift posted:Really like the composition on this one. Great colors in an otherwise bleak looking setting. Thanks! 20150124-IMG_1678 by wallofinsanity, on Flickr
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Abandoned House, Carabooda, January 2015 by Simon Deadman, on Flickr
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