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emoji posted:you just come off as smug. what you typed doesn't seem to be racist on the part of the old guy, who is probably just friendly and a little dumb. somehow i doubt he was singling you out on the basis of your race as if he had never seen your skin color before, in southern california, where every ethnicity on the planet is represented
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Can you tell us some more things that aren't racist?
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Feb 10, 2015 19:16
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emoji posted:you just come off as smug. what you typed doesn't seem to be racist on the part of the old guy, who is probably just friendly and a little dumb. somehow i doubt he was singling you out on the basis of your race as if he had never seen your skin color before, in southern california, where every ethnicity on the planet is represented hosed up if dutrieux
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Feb 10, 2015 19:17
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Wulfolme posted:
yes hello I get five tickets a month plus the occasional ticket for running red lights, i ding and dent my car constantly and then stress out about it for four hours each time, i take my car to a car wash every two weeks because i can't use it to display my fabulous wealth (with no down payment, but don't tell the poors that) if it isn't constantly shining at all times, and i use 80 gallons of gas a month. now let me tell you how amazing it is to have someone else drive me around in their car instead emoji posted:you just come off as smug. what you typed doesn't seem to be racist on the part of the old guy, who is probably just friendly and a little dumb. somehow i doubt he was singling you out on the basis of your race as if he had never seen your skin color before, in southern california, where every ethnicity on the planet is represented asking the second time is pretty fuckin rude. they're asking a question and then flat-out refusing to believe the answer and accusing the person of lying
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Feb 10, 2015 19:20
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Thesoro posted:Can you tell us some more things that aren't racist? Yea. Asking people where they're from. Most people are happy to talk about it and it's one of the first things people talk about. It's weird to go up to a total stranger and ask them where they are from. Weird, and probably not driven by malice. I know everyone ITT does mental gymnastics to find offense in every possible interaction, though.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:25
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lol. slightly better than talking about Pittsburgh.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:25
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real talk tho if your boss said "you're fired, I'm replacing you with a third worlder being paid 20% your salary who thinks making GBS threads into water that he won't have to drink eventually is the height of luxury, you will train this person for the next 30 days after which point gently caress you" and you do the only reasonable thing, which is to look him in the eyes, flip the bird and leave immediately then what the gently caress are they going to do oh no the oval office stealing my livelihood might not give me a good reference!! 
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Feb 10, 2015 19:26
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emoji posted:Yea. Asking people where they're from. Most people are happy to talk about it and it's one of the first things people talk about. It's weird to go up to a total stranger and ask them where they are from. Weird, and probably not driven by malice. I know everyone ITT does mental gymnastics to find offense in every possible interaction, though.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:27
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Mr Dog posted:real talk tho if your boss said "you're fired, I'm replacing you with a third worlder being paid 20% your salary who thinks making GBS threads into water that he won't have to drink eventually is the height of luxury, you will train this person for the next 30 days after which point gently caress you" The smart thing to do is say "yes sir" and just spend that 2 weeks/months or whatever looking for a job. Don't actually train him or anything, but you might as well get paid, gently caress that guy and gently caress the company.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:35
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Mr Dog posted:real talk tho if your boss said "you're fired, I'm replacing you with a third worlder being paid 20% your salary who thinks making GBS threads into water that he won't have to drink eventually is the height of luxury, you will train this person for the next 30 days after which point gently caress you" i thought for legal reasons all anyone could do anymore was job title, length of stay, eligible for rehire
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Feb 10, 2015 19:35
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Luigi Thirty posted:i thought for legal reasons all anyone could do anymore was job title, length of stay, eligible for rehire
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Plus saying "gently caress you" probably means "eligible for rehire" is a "no" vs a "yes". Just do the passive aggressive thing. Almost every situation in an office environment is best handled passive aggressively.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:39
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Mr Dog posted:real talk tho if your boss said "you're fired, I'm replacing you with a third worlder being paid 20% your salary who thinks making GBS threads into water that he won't have to drink eventually is the height of luxury, you will train this person for the next 30 days after which point gently caress you" why you need 'gently caress you' money . txt
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Feb 10, 2015 19:40
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Mr Dog posted:real talk tho if your boss said "you're fired, I'm replacing you with a third worlder being paid 20% your salary who thinks making GBS threads into water that he won't have to drink eventually is the height of luxury, you will train this person for the next 30 days after which point gently caress you" they will say you quit or fire you with cause meaning you won't be eligible for unemployment.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:41
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Luigi Thirty posted:i thought for legal reasons all anyone could do anymore was job title, length of stay, eligible for rehire lol no, the law gives no shits what your previous employer says to a prospective employer, unless someone can prove that they're intentionally lying about verifiable facts to the point of being considered slander. hr departments are usually scared to death of potential lawsuits, though, even baseless ones, so a lot of them adopt that policy to minimize liability by not letting anyone say anything subjective at all
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Feb 10, 2015 19:41
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ADINSX posted:The smart thing to do is say "yes sir" and just spend that 2 weeks/months or whatever looking for a job. Don't actually train him or anything, but you might as well get paid, gently caress that guy and gently caress the company. with luck, the poor training will mean the replacement team will be so awful, you'll get rehired to check their work
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Feb 10, 2015 19:42
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Shifty Pony posted:they will say you quit or fire you with cause meaning you won't be eligible for unemployment. i would still apply for unemployment quitting because your boss does something unconscionable is often the same as being fired without cause, if you're willing to fight it out
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Feb 10, 2015 19:44
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i would still apply for unemployment uh if they are willing to fight it out don't they usually win those appeals at will gently caress you
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Feb 10, 2015 19:50
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Main Paineframe posted:asking the second time is pretty fuckin rude. they're asking a question and then flat-out refusing to believe the answer and accusing the person of lying Ok, I will agree that it's ill-mannered to ask the second time for someone who responds with perfect diction in whatever locale. However, if someone is really from another country and claims to be from Toronto with a slight accent, as in the example given earlier, they're full of poo poo. I also don't subscribe to the melting pot. Everyone is from somewhere not here. I can count 5 ethnicities in my own blood.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:50
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Enderzero posted:uh if they are willing to fight it out don't they usually win those appeals yeah they will. even in cases where they are clearly in the wrong many business pay third party companies to contest and draw out every unemployment claim to get people to give up on collecting unemployment just by making it a giant pain in the rear end. like landlords that take every deposit knowing that 9 out of 10 won't fight it and that more than covers the loss when someone does.
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Feb 10, 2015 19:57
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emoji posted:Ok, I will agree that it's ill-mannered to ask the second time for someone who responds with perfect diction in whatever locale. However, if someone is really from another country and claims to be from Toronto with a slight accent, as in the example given earlier, they're full of poo poo. I also don't subscribe to the melting pot. Everyone is from somewhere not here. I can count 5 ethnicities in my own blood. gently caress you
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Feb 10, 2015 19:58
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Enderzero posted:uh if they are willing to fight it out don't they usually win those appeals employee usually wins, actually. employers can fire you for any reason, but you're eligible for unemployment unless you're fired for one of a few "valid" reasons like poor performance or committing crimes. and unemployment boards know that employers love to lie about that, so if you appeal they'll demand that the employer prove their claim that they fired you for one of those valid reasons, and if their proof doesn't pass muster they'll side with the employee emoji posted:Ok, I will agree that it's ill-mannered to ask the second time for someone who responds with perfect diction in whatever locale. However, if someone is really from another country and claims to be from Toronto with a slight accent, as in the example given earlier, they're full of poo poo. I also don't subscribe to the melting pot. Everyone is from somewhere not here. I can count 5 ethnicities in my own blood. who cares if they're full of poo poo. that's the answer they gave. either they're telling the truth or they have some good reason for lying about it, either way there's no good reason to interrogate someone you just met because you think they're lying in the loving small talk if you meet somebody obviously foreign with a heavy accent and they say their name is steve, do you scoff and say "haha, very funny, steve, but what's your real name?"
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emoji posted:Ok, I will agree that it's ill-mannered to ask the second time for someone who responds with perfect diction in whatever locale. However, if someone is really from another country and claims to be from Toronto with a slight accent, as in the example given earlier, they're full of poo poo. I also don't subscribe to the melting pot. Everyone is from somewhere not here. I can count 5 ethnicities in my own blood. lmao
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Feb 10, 2015 19:59
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emoji posted:Ok, I will agree that it's ill-mannered to ask the second time for someone who responds with perfect diction in whatever locale. However, if someone is really from another country and claims to be from Toronto with a slight accent, as in the example given earlier, they're full of poo poo. I also don't subscribe to the melting pot. Everyone is from somewhere not here. I can count 5 ethnicities in my own blood. is one of those "cherokee princess"?
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Feb 10, 2015 20:00
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Main Paineframe posted:employee usually wins, actually. employers can fire you for any reason, but you're eligible for unemployment unless you're fired for one of a few "valid" reasons like poor performance or committing crimes. and unemployment boards know that employers love to lie about that, so if you appeal they'll demand that the employer prove their claim that they fired you for one of those valid reasons, and if their proof doesn't pass muster they'll side with the employee dont forget tardiness. i know in principle employees can win appeals but i have heard, perhaps incorrectly, that an employer who really wants to gently caress you over, can. on the other hand if they really want to gently caress you, they probably would have been building a case for poor performance over time. oh, 3 minutes late today? that's going in your file...
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Feb 10, 2015 20:00
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Enderzero posted:dont forget tardiness. i think churn can also factor into how the unemployment review goes. like an employer that hardly ever fires someone might have an easier time appealing, but an employer that's constantly letting people go might have to really have evidence to successfully appeal.
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Feb 10, 2015 20:05
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z67Q0ME6NsA tuesday morning motherfuckers
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Feb 10, 2015 20:06
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Main Paineframe posted:who cares if they're full of poo poo. that's the answer they gave. either they're telling the truth or they have some good reason for lying about it, either way there's no good reason to interrogate someone you just met because you think they're lying in the loving small talk No, I would never press it, or maybe I would if we were getting on well, in which case it wouldn't be an issue. People with unusual names who choose names like Steve and Bob definitely lose points for creativity, though.
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Feb 10, 2015 20:10
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i'm from romania but i identify as a toronto native, and gently caress you for not respecting my identity
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emoji posted:Ok, I will agree that it's ill-mannered to ask the second time for someone who responds with perfect diction in whatever locale. However, if someone is really from another country and claims to be from Toronto with a slight accent, as in the example given earlier, they're full of poo poo. I also don't subscribe to the melting pot. Everyone is from somewhere not here. I can count 5 ethnicities in my own blood. The implication is "haha, yeah, you might consider yourself a Canadian, but you never will be in my eyes" But that doesn't sound racist to you does it
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it says in all those articles it says they have to sign non-disparagement clauses to get severance which seems like it should be illegal a lot of clauses you have to sign for everything these days seem like they should be illegal
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emoji posted:you just come off as smug. what you typed doesn't seem to be racist on the part of the old guy, who is probably just friendly and a little dumb. somehow i doubt he was singling you out on the basis of your race as if he had never seen your skin color before, in southern california, where every ethnicity on the planet is represented i never said he was malicious. his demeanor was pleasant. that doesn't make it any less hosed up that he interrupted a stranger's conversation in a restaurant to ask where he's from. why the gently caress should i have to explain my genetic heritage to a complete stranger in a restaurant just because he's curious? emoji posted:I know everyone ITT does mental gymnastics to find offense in every possible interaction, though. there are no gymnastics here.
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Wulfolme posted:it says in all those articles it says they have to sign non-disparagement clauses to get severance a lot of them are simple hurdles that scare off the idiots, but get cut through easily with even the most rudimentary of lawyers i mean if you as an employer had the opportunity to add a page that says "You promise to not say anything bad or we'll sue", the cost is near nil to add that, and if you see a 70% reduction in grumbly ex-employee disparagement online, you just won. the same 1% that would sue you for whatever whatever are still going to sue you, they'll laugh and walk right through that contract, but you're still ahead
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ruby idiot railed posted:is one of those "cherokee princess"? My people have been mining bitcoin 'lols' for years. The thing is, these computer coins, these bitcoins, are actually still extremely funny in 2015 and I can't get enough. In fact I post constantly in not one, but two bitcoin megathreads, just as my forefathers did. I also play world of warcraft in 2015.
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emoji posted:No, I would never press it, or maybe I would if we were getting on well, in which case it wouldn't be an issue. People with unusual names who choose names like Steve and Bob definitely lose points for creativity, though. imagine that when you meet a new person the first thing out of their mouth is almost always "where are you from?" and that people will then disagree with you when you answer truthfully. and that this goes on for your entire life. this isn't to say that the question itself is a problem. i'm more than happy to talk about it if i know you, or if we're already engaged in conversation and the subject comes up, or whatever. the problem is that, in asking the question right away, one is telegraphing that they don't really give a poo poo about you, they just want to be able to classify you in their head.
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Sagebrush posted:The implication is "haha, yeah, you might consider yourself a Canadian, but you never will be in my eyes" Canadian isn't even a real identity.
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duTrieux. posted:imagine that when you meet a new person the first thing out of their mouth is almost always "where are you from?" and that people will then disagree with you when you answer truthfully. and that this goes on for your entire life. Cool, this is a good explanation.
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emoji posted:Cool, this is a good explanation. thank you, i tried
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emoji posted:Everyone is from somewhere not here. I can count 5 ethnicities in my own blood. http://youtu.be/VWMaql3kRg8
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Enderzero posted:dont forget tardiness. if an employer really wants to gently caress you over and is willing to spend months building and meticulously documenting a case for it, then yeah, you're probably boned. if you see it coming you can probably build a case of your own, but it's hard to win if they're thorough since they'll probably have more paperwork than you only employers with a very good grasp of labor law are that thorough, though. i doubt a company that's openly firing all their employees and replacing them with h-1bs is that meticulous. a lot of companies, especially smaller ones, aren't that thorough, they just figure they can lie and their word will be taken at face value. bad bosses are rarely patient enough to build a proper paper trail emoji posted:No, I would never press it, or maybe I would if we were getting on well, in which case it wouldn't be an issue. People with unusual names who choose names like Steve and Bob definitely lose points for creativity, though. then why do you press it when asking where they're from? cool, so you think they're lying. good for you, it's still rude as poo poo to say so, especially to someone you've known for maybe thirty seconds
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