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Necc0: Jun 30, 2005; by exmarx; Broken Cake

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

we don't even know if it's infinite

# ? Feb 13, 2015 16:45

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# ? May 10, 2024 12:45

Jerry Bindle: May 16, 2003

MrMoo posted:

Would using Tcl/Java be considered less demented or not is the question though. Tcl as an external entity at least keeps a clean separation of concerns.

tcl/java would prevent users from having to install a tcl distribution, thanks for the recommendation. i'm worried about what unknown dangers lurk inside, but testing it against tclsh looks easy

# ? Feb 13, 2015 17:15

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

if you're already on the java stack, i would use a java-based scripting language rather than tcl

javascript
comes with jdk 8: invoke with jjs or jrunscript
groovy
supports #!/foo/bin/groovy syntax for scripting
scala
supports #!/foo/bin/scala syntax for scripting

# ? Feb 13, 2015 17:49

Bad Sneakers: Sep 4, 2004; me irl

i keep clicking away from my program hoping that when i come back to it my docstrings will have been written for me

but they never are :smith:

# ? Feb 13, 2015 18:32

Jerry Bindle: May 16, 2003

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

if you're already on the java stack, i would use a java-based scripting language rather than tcl

javascript
comes with jdk 8: invoke with jjs or jrunscript

groovy
supports #!/foo/bin/groovy syntax for scripting

scala
supports #!/foo/bin/scala syntax for scripting

the data source i'm interested is in Tcl list format, like this

code:

{COMPONENT BOARD_NAME.PCB
 {ENVIRONMENT BOARD.PCB}
 {DETAIL
  {SUBCOMP
   {I SOME_PART_1.PRT JP1
    {CN
     1 NET_000A
     2 NET_000B
     3 NET_000C
     4 NET_000D
    }
   }
   {I SOME_PART_2.PRT U1
    {CN
     1 NET_000B
     2 NET_000A
    }
   }
   {I SOME_PART_3.PRT U1
    {CN
     1 NET_000C
     2 NET_000D
    }
   }
  }
 }
}

so the only reason i'd use Tcl would be to easily process this kind of data. maybe its easy to parse the netlist in Java or some other language

# ? Feb 13, 2015 19:47

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Barnyard Protein posted:

the data source i'm interested is in Tcl list format, like this
code:
[...] some netlist excerpts	
so the only reason i'd use Tcl would be to easily process this kind of data. maybe its easy to parse the netlist in Java or some other language

yeah if that's tcl's native format, using tcljava to parse it seems like a good idea

i do think people will hate you if you try to manipulate it with tcl though. seems like it would be easier to just do the parsing with tcl.lang.Parser or whatever then reformat the data structure using a language your coworkers are more likely to know

# ? Feb 13, 2015 20:38

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

don't use matlab it is a dumpster fire of garbage in every possible way

# ? Feb 13, 2015 20:43

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

Bloody posted:

don't use matlab it is a dumpster fire of garbage in every possible way

Bloody posted:

don't use R it is a dumpster fire of garbage in every possible way

Bloody posted:

don't use SAS it is a dumpster fire of garbage in every possible way

Bloody posted:

don't use excel it is a dumpster fire of garbage in every possible way

Bloody posted:

don't use mathematics it is a dumpster fire of garbage in every possible way

# ? Feb 13, 2015 20:46

triple sulk: Sep 17, 2014

Luigi Thirty posted:

same but ruby or any plang

# ? Feb 13, 2015 20:48

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

just 5 minutes ago my buddy applied for an internship at Mathworks about doing work with Mathlab and Simulink on fpga's lol

# ? Feb 13, 2015 20:57

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

Luigi Thirty posted:

same but literally every language or anything ever

# ? Feb 13, 2015 21:28

Spime Wrangler: Feb 23, 2003; Because we can.

Valeyard posted:

just 5 minutes ago my buddy applied for an internship at Mathworks about doing work with Mathlab and Simulink on fpga's lol

aka the Cool and Good part of matlab

# ? Feb 13, 2015 21:50

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Bloody posted:

don't use oxygen you are a dumpster fire of garbage in every possible way

# ? Feb 13, 2015 22:28

Hed: Mar 31, 2004; Fun Shoe

The only thing I ever revisit from my years of MATLAB in school is a really annoying .WAV file from piping a signal I was working with out through the audio module.

fitting.

# ? Feb 13, 2015 22:42

PokeJoe: Aug 24, 2004; hail cgatan

i spent a few hours last night trying to fix a spell checker i wrote for class and i woke up today and immediately saw the problem and fixed it with one line

i should probably sleep on these things more often

# ? Feb 13, 2015 22:49

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

most of my good programming ideas/solutions come to me in the shower

# ? Feb 13, 2015 22:50

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

gonadic io posted:

you pay a real price for this, matlab is slow as balls. the trick to "good" matlab is to do as little as possible actually in the language and instead try to use library functions (which are written in fortran) whenever possible.

The trick to good matlab is to use haskell instead

# ? Feb 13, 2015 22:53

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

Shaggar posted:

most of my good programming ideas/solutions come to me in the shower

Glad waterfall is working well for someone

# ? Feb 13, 2015 22:53

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

Glad waterfall is working well for someone

lol

ive dreamed up solutions to code quite often

# ? Feb 13, 2015 22:55

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

Glad waterfall is working well for someone

# ? Feb 13, 2015 22:56

distortion park: Apr 25, 2011

Shaggar posted:

most of my good programming ideas/solutions come to me in the shower

I get them on my bike normally

# ? Feb 14, 2015 00:17

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Shaggar posted:

most of my good programming ideas/solutions come to me in the shower

i often shower more/longer than i really need to just to have more thinking time

# ? Feb 14, 2015 00:32

triple sulk: Sep 17, 2014

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

Glad waterfall is working well for someone

# ? Feb 14, 2015 00:33

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

i'd kill to have a private shower at work

just pop in after lunch and steam my way to clear thinking

# ? Feb 14, 2015 00:36

Jabor: Jul 16, 2010; #1 Loser at SpaceChem

same but to passive-aggressively point coworkers at

(actually my coworkers are all totally fine, I just wanted to make a joke about nerd stereotypes)

# ? Feb 14, 2015 02:02

fritz: Jul 26, 2003

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i'd kill to have a private shower at work

just pop in after lunch and steam my way to clear thinking

one of the bathrooms @ the office has a shower in it, apparently the space we're in used to be a "nightclub"

# ? Feb 14, 2015 02:18

fart simpson: Jul 2, 2005; DEATH TO AMERICA

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i'd kill to have a private shower at work

just pop in after lunch and steam my way to clear thinking

we have a shower in the bathroom but the building doesnt have a water heater :shepface:

# ? Feb 14, 2015 02:20

my homie dhall: Dec 9, 2010; honey, oh please, it's just a machine

anyone have any recommended resources for learning like 'proper' idiomatic c++? for some reason my Uni gets off on having most classes in c++ and my shittiness/unfamiliarity with how I should actually be doing things is giving me a lot of headaches

# ? Feb 14, 2015 04:22

PokeJoe: Aug 24, 2004; hail cgatan

im taking cs50 from harvards online thing and just got to the part about web stuff. the sample website we are given at the start just contains one image

# ? Feb 14, 2015 09:18

Workaday Wizard: Oct 23, 2009; by Pragmatica

RIP happycat

# ? Feb 14, 2015 11:56

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

PokeJoe posted:

i spent a few hours last night trying to fix a spell checker i wrote for class and i woke up today and immediately saw the problem and fixed it with one line

i should probably sleep on these things more often

I keep trying to explain to ppl at work how the three hours overtime they spend flailing at poo poo at night are much better spent going home and getting a good nights sleep, but spergs gotta sperg I guess.

# ? Feb 14, 2015 13:06

comedyblissoption: Mar 15, 2006

and if you dont also do similar amounts of unpaid overtime you are viewed relatively as a slacker

# ? Feb 14, 2015 15:55

Bhodi: Dec 9, 2007; Oh, it's just a cat.; Pillbug

Turns out you can find work in places that don't view you as a slacker for doing your 9-5 and then going home

# ? Feb 14, 2015 15:58

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Bhodi posted:

Turns out you can find work in places that don't view you as a slacker for doing your 9-5 and then going home

this except at a good employer it can also be 11-7 or 5-1 or 9-7 for a four day week or whatever else fits with your life as long as you're doing the amount of work they're paying for

# ? Feb 14, 2015 17:51

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

so my terrible product has a bunch of possible configurations (duration, etc etc) that ultimately determine its cost.

the logic that calculates that cost is spread over like 15 classes and many many database fields and is extremely confusing. little changes in unexpected places have a tendency to do weird things to cost.

there's a (very) finite number of possible costs/configurations, so i decided i'd just create a serial dump of all the 'valid' budgets, based on the last year of database history, and stick it in a file. now i have something sane to validate my data against and i don't have to worry about my validations being wrong due to some other change in the system.

anyhow, now that i've done all that i've realized i can just loving use that data to populate the budgets instead of using it as a validation, and i can get rid of all the stupid code that calculates the budgets in the worst possible way.

horray.

# ? Feb 14, 2015 21:13

Scorponok: May 13, 2002; No... not without incident.

Ploft-shell crab posted:

anyone have any recommended resources for learning like 'proper' idiomatic c++? for some reason my Uni gets off on having most classes in c++ and my shittiness/unfamiliarity with how I should actually be doing things is giving me a lot of headaches

Get the new stroustrop book on the new stuff in c++1whatever, it goes over all the basics in the new ways you're meant to use, and is pretty short. Assume you already know how to write a program, that is

# ? Feb 14, 2015 21:15

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Soricidus posted:

this except at a good employer it can also be 11-7 or 5-1 or 9-7 for a four day week or whatever else fits with your life as long as you're doing the amount of work they're paying for

I'm glad my boss yells at us to go home after a certain point

I also once emailed him from Japan at midnight local time and he replied "go to sleep"

# ? Feb 15, 2015 02:35

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

Ploft-shell crab posted:

anyone have any recommended resources for learning like 'proper' idiomatic c++? for some reason my Uni gets off on having most classes in c++ and my shittiness/unfamiliarity with how I should actually be doing things is giving me a lot of headaches

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# ? Feb 15, 2015 05:08

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

Ploft-shell crab posted:

anyone have any recommended resources for learning like 'proper' idiomatic c++? for some reason my Uni gets off on having most classes in c++ and my shittiness/unfamiliarity with how I should actually be doing things is giving me a lot of headaches

https://google-styleguide.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/cppguide.html

# ? Feb 15, 2015 05:08

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# ? May 10, 2024 12:45

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

Bloody posted:

https://google-styleguide.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/cppguide.html

poo poo like this reminds me that i really do not at all know c++

# ? Feb 15, 2015 05:11

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