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homeowner 39 22.41%
renter 69 39.66%
stupid peace of poo poo 66 37.93%
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Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Robo Captain posted:

Unless you are one of the people who join because it's pretty much their only option for employment .

I graduated with a Commerce degree mid-recession and was single, it wasn't such a dumb option but thanks to some genetic fuckery I wouldn't have been accepted.

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voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

o.t. but if NZ manage to win the cricket world cup that'll mean John Key will get another shot at a three-way handshake with a sportsball captain

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
sportsball huh what a funny and cool aloof original joke

besides you missed it already, they got the awkward john key stuff out of the way at the opening ceremony.

E: seems like Sky City backed down, I wonder if this was in exchange for potentially speeding up the CRL instead.

Butt Wizard fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Feb 15, 2015

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Butt Wizard posted:

sportsball huh what a funny and cool aloof original joke



What an intensely strange thing to get mad about.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

What an intensely strange thing to get mad about.

If I got mad every time someone tried to rehash a long-since played-out joke on the internet, I'd be dead many many times over.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Butt Wizard posted:

If I got mad every time someone tried to rehash a long-since played-out joke on the internet, I'd be dead many many times over.

You sound pretty mad.

Then again sportsball fans are often quick to anger.

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:


Then again sportsball fans are often quick to anger.

domestic_violence_stats.txt

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Those anti-domestic-violence radio ads are tremendously stupid.

"Don't beat ya wife if the allblacks lose!" people hearing that ad fall into two categories:

1. People who aren't colossal psychopaths who beat their spouse over sports bullshit.

2. Colossal psychopaths who don't give a poo poo about radio ads telling them not to beat their spouse over sports bullshit.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Butt Wizard posted:

I graduated with a Commerce degree mid-recession and was single, it wasn't such a dumb option but thanks to some genetic fuckery I wouldn't have been accepted.

Same, just with an Accounting Degree. I didn't have DNA donkery, I was just chicken about being shot in the stomach at the behest of the UN, five thousand miles from home.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Slavvy posted:

Those anti-domestic-violence radio ads are tremendously stupid.

"Don't beat ya wife if the allblacks lose!" people hearing that ad fall into two categories:

1. People who aren't colossal psychopaths who beat their spouse over sports bullshit.

2. Colossal psychopaths who don't give a poo poo about radio ads telling them not to beat their spouse over sports bullshit.

I always resent the implied connection between sporting events and domestic violence. The people who beat their spouses would be beating the poo poo out of them for whatever reason, regardless of the outcome of a rugby game.

In the 2 years leading up to my parents getting divorced, my father used to beat the poo poo out of my mum for any old reason - bad day at work, the train was crowded, he vaguely remembers mum saying something 10 years ago that he's decided he didn't like, mum's Japanese so stuff that Japan did to Koreans back when the Koreas were a Japanese colony, it was rainy, it was sunny, it was cloudy, there was a bit of a breeze, he loving felt like it. The All Blacks losing a game had gently caress all to do with it.

edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Feb 15, 2015

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

WarpedNaba posted:

Same, just with an Accounting Degree. I didn't have DNA donkery, I was just chicken about being shot in the stomach at the behest of the UN, five thousand miles from home.

Yea I went back and got NZICA papers instead and now I'm doing it all over again trying to find my second job out of uni. The economy might be doing OK but it seems like firms are much leaner than they used to be.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Butt Wizard posted:

The economy might be doing OK

*sniffs*

Huh, I can smell an aroma of bullshit

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

*sniffs*

Huh, I can smell an aroma of bullshit

OK as in "we aren't in the same full-blown recession I first graduated into".

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Butt Wizard posted:

Yea I went back and got NZICA papers instead and now I'm doing it all over again trying to find my second job out of uni. The economy might be doing OK but it seems like firms are much leaner than they used to be.

Yeah, with the current deregulative atmosphere of the business sector and slashing of employee protections, employers tend to have all the means and manners to construct an enormously exploitative environment.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

WarpedNaba posted:

Yeah, with the current deregulative atmosphere of the business sector and slashing of employee protections, employers tend to have all the means and manners to construct an enormously exploitative environment.

Even if I can get a job in the next month, the end of financial year will be in any 90 day trial period which is kind of depressing. It's kind of telling that most of the accounting vacancies right now are in BAS, I may not have a job but almost anything is better than still being in BAS.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Even for the BAS, you're looking at 400+ accountants applying for a position. Add to that that if you're a recent-ish graduate, at least half of them will have about 4-5+ years of experience over you.

It's times like this I'm thankful for the strict gun laws we have here. Suicides would be through the roof if they were relaxed.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
Yea, I have three years of BAS behind me I've come to the conclusion "gently caress BAS". Trying to start in commercial from the bottom all over again, now hopefully it's my turn to gently caress over some new graduates. BAS is just a race to the bottom where the only people who win are the people that either own the building or have their names on it. There's very few commercial openings at the moment and yea, a lot of them are being swamped by BAS accountants who want out just like me.

How NZ universities are allowed to keep making GBS threads out thousands of BCom accountants a year is beyond me.

klen dool
May 7, 2007

Okay well me being wrong in some limited situations doesn't change my overall point.

Robo Captain posted:

Unless you are one of the people who join because it's pretty much their only option for employment .

What about people that join the military because they want to soldier? I do know a couple ex-army guys, and they didn't need the money, and they didn't want to just fight for fightings sake.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

klen dool posted:

What about people that join the military because they want to soldier? I do know a couple ex-army guys, and they didn't need the money, and they didn't want to just fight for fightings sake.

In a just world those people would be taken away to nice safe facilities to have people help them overcome their psychological problems.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

I have a mate I've known since we started highschool, he's been in the army a few years now. He's a borderline aspergers manchild who joined because he wanted a job that would also take care of his every minor need for him like a big green mum. Now he seems to be more self-sufficient and more capable of social interaction with humans, and he's reasonably well off financially.

I'd say on the whole it's done him some good, even if he could (theoretically) gone to uni instead and made use of his autistic-yet-powerful brain. I doubt he ever would've made it through uni; he'd probably be working at a supermarket right now if he hadn't joined.

The very concept of him killing someone on purpose with a gun makes me giggle.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
The only time I ever heard somebody say "sand friend of the family" irl was talking to a guy at school who was going to join the military :whitewater:

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo

Exclamation Marx posted:

The only time I ever heard somebody say "sand friend of the family" irl was talking to a guy at school who was going to join the military :whitewater:


I know we're in D&D and all, but I'm not sure the things that fuckwit teens say has any real bearing on the ethics of most people who choose to join the NZ military for reasons other than 'oh poo poo I need a job'?

Lancelot
May 23, 2006

Fun Shoe
fuckwit teens are the majority of people who join the army tho

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
this was at the end of the final year, when he'd applied btw

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the domestic violence stats go up after a sportsball game regardless of whether the team win or lose? Seems more likely to be related to alcohol than sporting wins/losses

also buttwizard before you get mad again I dont even know if there's an internet joke about the word sportsball, I heard it and thought it was funny. I've spent most of the day watching India v Pakistan so Im not pretending to be aloof in any way

Kathleen
Feb 26, 2013

Grimey Drawer
y'all know making fun of sports fans and people who join the military just reeks of class-ism right?

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

focal ischemia posted:

y'all know making fun of sports fans and people who join the military just reeks of class-ism right?

No it doesn't you idiot.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



It's mostly just goonery, but it would also be nice if the people we hire to shoot and capture for torture foreign nationals at the behest of our golfing partners were in it as a job rather than because they weren't enough of a sociopath to go into politics.

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo

Ghostlight posted:

It's mostly just goonery, but it would also be nice if the people we hire to shoot and capture for torture foreign nationals at the behest of our golfing partners were in it as a job rather than because they weren't enough of a sociopath to go into politics.

Are you actually saying you believe the majority of people in the NZ military are there because they're sociopaths rather than because they are in it as a job, or am I just tired and reading this completely wrong?

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



No, I'm just agreeing with a vague sentiment at the beginning of the military bashing that a portion of military recruits, regardless of how numerically large or small it may factually be in the New Zealand army, are there because they want to kill and harm people; and, I don't think they should be given the opportunity to do so. Most of the recruits I would guess are just regular people doing their job and defending the country/securing the world.

whiter than a Wilco show
Mar 30, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

focal ischemia posted:

y'all know making fun of sports fans and people who join the military just reeks of class-ism right?

Sportspeople are/are inviolably linked to the upper class in nz.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
lots of military people are nice :)

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Disband all military

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Too late Auntie Helen did that already


All John Key has to send is an angry man with a brick and a paper plane

Lancelot
May 23, 2006

Fun Shoe
lol @ people unironically using the phrase "military bashing" in this thread

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Sorry to have made you laugh, mate.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Ghostlight posted:

Most of the recruits I would guess are just regular people doing their job and defending the country/securing the world.

Maybe they should learn that patriotism is weird as gently caress and you can protect the world better than going places at the behest of the US/UK to shoot "terrorists"

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



I would argue that the government needs to learn that more than the recruits.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

Maybe they should learn that patriotism is weird as gently caress and you can protect the world better than going places at the behest of the US/UK to shoot "terrorists"

Probably worth pointing out a bunch of people who ended up going to Afghanistan were probably also in the armed forces when it was mostly doing regional peace-keeping.

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Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006

Infotainment! posted:

Sportspeople are/are inviolably linked to the upper class in nz.

He said sports fans, not sports people.

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