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Mr Dog posted:ppl still pissing and moaning about gnome 3 (perhaps justifiably tbh) should use Gnome Classic mode gnome classic is deprecated
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Smythe posted:ok im not going to have cable aargment in the linux thread but basically their phones imo shoulda been normal microusb, mini displayport was nothing put a adapter-plug basically (literally never seen a native displaypor device) and firewire was horse shhit idk maybe im a loving moron but like their cables are annoying to me. native displayport is common as dirt, but it is always the full-size connector. "mini" displayport is a weird apple-ism
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shitface posted:AirPrint is probably lighter for a mobile device AirPrint being entirely rendered on the device is far harder for a device vendor to get wrong I love PostScript, but these days the only software worse than printer divers is the software actually running on the printer. client-side rasterization is the only way to go.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:gnome classic is deprecated really doubt it since it's the default mode of operation for the latest RHEL!
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thread got me curious, airprint is apparently zeroconf + ipp + a requirement for the printer to support & advertise at minimum the capability to accept universal raster format (urf) + optional support for jpg + optional support for pdf rasterization. also apple devices will prefer pdf if it's avail all this stuff is off the shelf tech and supposedly it's p easy for randos to write a little bit of glue so that avahi (for the zeroconf service discov) + cups (for the ipp & rasterization) on a linux with (insert random cups supported printer here) functions as an airprint printer interestingly i ran into several references on the net which hint that apple was originally going to release such print server software and document everything more openly only to be smacked down by hp's giant printing patent penis
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:"mini" displayport is a weird apple-ism in our real world apple granted royalty free use of the connector to the entire world and vesa, seeing that it was Good, proceeded to incorporate it as an alternate connector in the official displayport standard. iirc this sequence of events happened about two milliseconds after apple shipped their first mini displayport device so it has basically never been proprietary many non apple video cards use mini displayport for one or more of the outputs because if you have to jam lots of them onto a card for multihead it's a hell of a lot easier when the connectors are tiny
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Feb 14, 2015 07:04
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apple is truly doing gods work
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Feb 14, 2015 07:05
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Feb 14, 2015 07:06
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my thinkpad has a thunderbolt port well that's my story
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Feb 14, 2015 16:50
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Mr Dog posted:really doubt it since it's the default mode of operation for the latest RHEL! it is; if you're on arch or tracking current, in gnome 3.12 /.14 classic no longer works. If you're looking for that gnome classic feel, use mate which is the continuation of gnome 2 and works well.
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Feb 14, 2015 17:12
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red hat does not really have a plan for the desktop shipping gnome 3 with the standard shell is not a viable option because many red hat "desktop" users just want a server management GUI on a VM
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Feb 14, 2015 17:38
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:red hat does not really have a plan for the desktop And this was why we invented Cockpit.
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Suspicious Dish posted:And this was why we invented Cockpit. cockpit is cool and all but i don't think it's gonna replace the graphics head on the server itself if only because you can't have a $10/hr cj log in and start a web browser to check http://127.0.0.1:8080
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Feb 14, 2015 18:41
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yes it is dumb as hell no i do not think people are gonna stop asking for it
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:cockpit is cool and all but i don't think it's gonna replace the graphics head on the server itself Ur lin kis broken.
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Feb 14, 2015 21:47
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SYSV Fanfic posted:Ur lin kis broken. works for me
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:cockpit is cool and all but i don't think it's gonna replace the graphics head on the server itself not sure why you expect a $10/hr cj to be able to do anything
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Feb 15, 2015 09:06
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remember openlmi guys? no? oh
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Feb 15, 2015 10:09
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Why would you ever ever ever run a GUI on a server? Retarded. Fedora on Desktop trip report: everything worked out of the box. Installing the Nvidia drivers (via yum) caused a kernel update, but it neglected to automatically install the 8MiB package with extra drivers (including the sound card drivers) along with the base 30MiB kernel package. So I suddenly had no sound. It's good to be home.
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Feb 15, 2015 10:13
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Athas posted:Why would you ever ever ever run a GUI on a server? Retarded. yes clearly it all works out of the box
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Feb 15, 2015 10:20
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a computar must be fought with struggled with a battle to the death with the machine
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Feb 15, 2015 10:25
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du -hast posted:yes clearly it all works out of the box I legit don't understand why everyone doesn't use CentOS - Tested a bunch - Created by a company of employed non-poors Nope gently caress that i'm gonna install sperg-jort OS
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Feb 15, 2015 11:43
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i heard centos is called centos because the packages are a century old
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Feb 15, 2015 12:52
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Athas posted:Why would you ever ever ever run a GUI on a server? Retarded. If you are already running an X server, why not?
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Feb 15, 2015 14:04
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why would you run x in a server
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Feb 15, 2015 15:45
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:i heard centos is called centos because the packages are a century old this is only a bad thing on your desktop for your business applications it's a win: TEN YEARS between disruptive upgrades
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Feb 15, 2015 17:08
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Athas posted:Why would you ever ever ever run a GUI on a server? Retarded. Celexi posted:why would you run x in a server so your idiot cj can log in and open a web browser, "just like windows" is it stupid? definitely will people still demand it? yep.
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Feb 15, 2015 17:09
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Celexi posted:why would you run x in a server Believe it or not, there are instances where running an X application remotely is the easiest option for everyone. Maybe if you specify dedicate web server, sure no reason. But not every server only serves up web pages.
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Feb 15, 2015 17:19
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:so your idiot cj can log in and open a web browser, "just like windows" how do your IT infrastructure people access your appliances' (web)guis without a graphical management server? just curious
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Feb 15, 2015 18:05
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they connect to it through an internet 'browser '
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Feb 15, 2015 18:08
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pram posted:they connect to it through an internet 'browser ' so you open your infra network to the users network  ?also, what happens when an it person need to manage something remotely? what's your equivalent to citrix+rdp into management server?
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Feb 15, 2015 18:15
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ssh, generally
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Feb 15, 2015 18:30
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SYSV Fanfic posted:Believe it or not, there are instances where running an X application remotely is the easiest option for everyone. you don't need to run an X server on a system to export applications from it to your desktop
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Feb 15, 2015 18:40
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:so you open your infra network to the users network are you mentally retarded
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Feb 15, 2015 18:53
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oh wait youre a windows person the answer is yes
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Feb 15, 2015 18:54
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you have a vpn into your infra subnet. you ssh in. you dont need to log on with vnc and load firefox to check a local http server lol
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The successor to classic and fallback is Flashback. It's not bad. I'm using both flashback and gnome shell and I'm about to ditch shell entirely.
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