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ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Ornamented Death posted:

September 29th for The Aeronaut's Windlass.

Is that the first Cinder Spires book? I think I recall that being its name.

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Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT

Ornamented Death posted:

September 29th for The Aeronaut's Windlass.

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Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

ConfusedUs posted:

Is that the first Cinder Spires book? I think I recall that being its name.

Yes.


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Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

:circlefap: :gizz::circlefap: :gizz::circlefap: :gizz::circlefap: :gizz::circlefap: :gizz::circlefap: :gizz::circlefap: :gizz:

Oroborus
Jul 6, 2004
Here we go again
When Butcher releases a non Dresden book does he do the full touring etc?

Benny the Snake
Apr 11, 2012

GUM CHEWING INTENSIFIES
:smugjones:

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



I appreciate how Dresden spent a dozen books prior to Changes accumulating poo poo, only to lose it all here (and in the leadup books) but good heavens, is the book dire and by the numbers until Sanya shows up (Sanya is awesome in general). We all know that Dresden has to lose everything, reach the nadir of blah blah blah - and the author seems as disinterested in the process as we are. The skinchanger could (should) have crippled Harry instead - it was a credible threat, and the starting parts of the book would have been more interesting (and the vampires actually dangerous). The Ick is literally treated as "yeah, whatever". The climax (as I said, everything after Sanya) is pretty good though.

Benny the Snake
Apr 11, 2012

GUM CHEWING INTENSIFIES

Ornamented Death posted:

I can't speak for Benny, but I ceased buying books from Amazon because I got tired of returning the same book two or more times, trying to get a copy that wasn't beat to poo poo. And I'm not talking about books I bought from some schmuck on the Marketplace, I'm talking about new releases sold by Amazon. Once you factor in the cost of my time spent having to pack and ship books back to them, it's cheaper for me to go to Books a Million, join their club thingy for $25, and just buy all my books there.

This probably means I'll stop renewing my Prime membership, too...
It's more an ethical thing. I really, really don't agree with Amazon's buisness or labor practices so if I can, I'll do buisness with another retailer. I called Barnes and Nobel and discovered the Daniel Faust series is most likely published exclusively through Amazon so I'm buying the first book through them. I'm not so naive to think that only Amazon or what other company I disagree with deals in shady practices exclusively. My thing is the Devil I know, though. I'd much rather buy books in a B&N bookstore because I can actually hold the drat thing in my hands and see the people who are getting paid.

Oroborus
Jul 6, 2004
Here we go again
So if butchers steampunk book comes out in September I guess it would be fair to say next August for Peace talks?

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

Oroborus posted:

So if butchers steampunk book comes out in September I guess it would be fair to say next August for Peace talks?

At the earliest. Historically having two series going has helped Jim to write faster, but a lot has changed since that was last the case so we'll see. I'm hoping that we'll get a new book each year, alternating between the two series - that's probably the best-case scenario.

Oroborus
Jul 6, 2004
Here we go again

Ornamented Death posted:

At the earliest. Historically having two series going has helped Jim to write faster, but a lot has changed since that was last the case so we'll see. I'm hoping that we'll get a new book each year, alternating between the two series - that's probably the best-case scenario.

16 more years until it's over :negative:

why oh WHY
Apr 25, 2012

So like I said, not my fault. Nobody can judge me for it.
But, yeah...
Okay.
I admit it.
Human teenager Rainbow Dash was hot!

Oroborus posted:

16 more years until it's over :negative:

Shut your whore mouth. I don't want to be almost 40 when the final Dresden book comes out.

Wittgen
Oct 13, 2012

We have decided to decline your offer of a butt kicking.

why oh WHY posted:

Shut your whore mouth. I don't want to be almost 40 when the final Dresden book comes out.

Given the books take progressively longer that the final trilogy is going to be extra long, you'll probably be more like 45.

RosaParksOfDip
May 11, 2009
Look at the bright side. At least you'll have had several books in that timeframe, unlike A Song of ice and Fire fans.

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!

Benny the Snake posted:

It's more an ethical thing. I really, really don't agree with Amazon's buisness or labor practices so if I can, I'll do buisness with another retailer. I called Barnes and Nobel and discovered the Daniel Faust series is most likely published exclusively through Amazon so I'm buying the first book through them. I'm not so naive to think that only Amazon or what other company I disagree with deals in shady practices exclusively. My thing is the Devil I know, though. I'd much rather buy books in a B&N bookstore because I can actually hold the drat thing in my hands and see the people who are getting paid.

I'm sorry, I can't stop laughing at the idea that someone seriously thinks Barnes and Noble treats it's employees any better than Amazon.

Also, some of us would have to drive 40 miles to even find a Barnes and Noble, so Amazon basically wins by default.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
The only way B&N would be better than Amazon is if they contracted out their slave labor warehouse operation to another company.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!

Oroborus posted:

So if butchers steampunk book comes out in September I guess it would be fair to say next August for Peace talks?

Yeah. He put out the first sentence to Peace Talks on Feb 3rd, if you want an estimate to when he started on it

Benny the Snake
Apr 11, 2012

GUM CHEWING INTENSIFIES
With Amazon it's a couple specific reasons. First is this news story I read a few years ago. I've heard the same kind of warehouse horror stories from people who are close to me. Heck, I've briefly worked at one, I am not good at that type of work. It was that point that I decided to wash my hands and try my best to do buisness elsewhere. Does B&N do the same thing with their warehouse workers? Probably. But I haven't heard of it. Yet.

Second is convienence. There's a B&N right down the street where I work. I can actually go down to pick up books as opposed to waiting 3 to 5 days for delivery. I use and have used Amazon almost exclusively for books, so I might as well go down to B&N.

Third, let me tell you a story. I wanted to get a blu-ray as a gift for someone who did me a big favor. B&N offered the blu-ray at 30% off for about $25 as a membership discount. I have a membership so I thought what the heck. Then I heard from this thread about the Daniel Faust series. I looked it up on B&N and found out that it's only available digitally. I call and customer service tells me that most likely it's published exclusively thru the big A. Here's where it gets interesting. I order the blu-ray and the paperback at about $33-two bucks bellow the free shipping deal. I decide to bite the bullet and sign up for a prime account with the intention to cancel it beffore the 30 days runs out. I have no intention to keep it since I allready have Netlfix streaming+dvds and Spotify, so I don't need to spend $100 a month year for music, movies, and TV shows. I ended up spending about $38 all together after taxes. If the book was available thru B&N, I could've picked up both thru the store and spent the same ammount. If I decided to go throught the online route, I would've still paid the same ammmount and gotten free shipping too with my membership without having to sign up for a service like setting a time bomb and letting it sit.

Interestingly enough, the B&N free shipping magic number is $25.

Benny the Snake fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Feb 13, 2015

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS

quote:

I don't need to spend $100 a month for [Amazon Prime's] music, movies, and TV shows.
Minor nitpick, but Amazon Prime is $100/year, so in the long term only marginally more expensive than Hulu/Netflix, and it does include quite a few shows Hulu/Netflix don't.

Benny the Snake
Apr 11, 2012

GUM CHEWING INTENSIFIES

darthbob88 posted:

Minor nitpick, but Amazon Prime is $100/year, so in the long term only marginally more expensive than Hulu/Netflix, and it does include quite a few shows Hulu/Netflix don't.
Fixed. Point still stands, though.

SystemLogoff
Feb 19, 2011

End Session?

A Plain-Dealing Villain is pretty good so far.

quote:

I wondered, for a brief instant, what a necromancer like Damien Echo could do with the skeleton of a T-rex. I shrugged the idea off. Nobody’s that good.

I wonder if the author is a fan of another series.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

SystemLogoff posted:

A Plain-Dealing Villain is pretty good so far.


I wonder if the author is a fan of another series.

Pretty much every goddamn urban fantasy novel I've tried has some sort of reference to Dresden somewhere.

mistaya
Oct 18, 2006

Cat of Wealth and Taste

I asked Jim about his con schedule this year and he said it's real light because he's planning on doing a lot more writing. Apparently the editing process on Aeronaut's been a lot longer than usual for him, probably because it's a whole new series. Peace Talks is being worked on though!

It's kind of depressing to hear people hating on female UF authors... There IS a difference between Paranormal Romance and Urban Fantasy you know. Look at like, Lillith Saintcrow or DD Barant for decent female-authored UF stuff. It does have female gaze, but um, female protagonists are kinda going to have that? It's not like we don't get male gaze out the rear end from Harry and company.

Benny the Snake
Apr 11, 2012

GUM CHEWING INTENSIFIES
I just got "The Long Way Down" and it hooked me from the first page. I guess it's in how Craig Schafer's style reminds me so much of Raymond Chandler in a good way, and I loves me some Raymond Chandler. In other words, Daniel Faust is an old-school hardboiled pulp detective and I like the book so far. It's everything that I would've wanted in Harry Dresden.

I have a few random thoughts so far. First, I see Saul Goodman when I imagine Daniel Faust. Second, are the covers supposed to crease like that? It feels kinda flimsy in my hands. Third, I love how he uses cards like seals, reminds me a bit of the anime shows I used to watch as a kid.

Benny the Snake fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Feb 15, 2015

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Jul 17, 2009


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mistaya posted:

I asked Jim about his con schedule this year and he said it's real light because he's planning on doing a lot more writing. Apparently the editing process on Aeronaut's been a lot longer than usual for him, probably because it's a whole new series. Peace Talks is being worked on though!

It's kind of depressing to hear people hating on female UF authors... There IS a difference between Paranormal Romance and Urban Fantasy you know. Look at like, Lillith Saintcrow or DD Barant for decent female-authored UF stuff. It does have female gaze, but um, female protagonists are kinda going to have that? It's not like we don't get male gaze out the rear end from Harry and company.

I absolutely love the Cal Leandros series written by Rob(erta) Thurman.

Totally UF. For Dresden fans I'd pitch it like this:
The pov character is basically teenage thomas without any of the creepy sex stuff but with occasional bouts of emo. The main character's brother is basically a non-magical michael with a bit more of an edge to him.
They fight monsters in New York city.

Wolpertinger
Feb 16, 2011

Benny the Snake posted:

I just got "The Long Way Down" and it hooked me from the first page. I guess it's in how Craig Schafer's style reminds me so much of Raymond Chandler in a good way, and I loves me some Raymond Chandler. In other words, Daniel Faust is an old-school hardboiled pulp detective and I like the book so far. It's everything that I would've wanted in Harry Dresden.

I have a few random thoughts so far. First, I see Saul Goodman when I imagine Daniel Faust. Second, are the covers supposed to crease like that? It feels kinda flimsy in my hands. Third, I love how he uses cards like seals, reminds me a bit of the anime shows I used to watch as a kid.

I've seen some reviews actually complaining at how little magic firepower he has with it being mostly his card trick - funnily enough I think it almost works better this way. He pretty much comes out on top every time by outsmarting everyone instead of by knocking down the house with a fireball. His magic seems to be more useful for just general sensing/awareness and against people without any magic, which is an interesting contrast to the powerhouse Dresden is. I like how he's actually smart in a way that a lot of urban fantasy protagonists aren't - he studies, he makes plans, that often even work, he relies on and for the most part trusts his allies instead of trying to do everything alone, it's sort of refreshing compared to the typical 'stumble around and get beaten up a lot and win through sheer determination' style of character.

Clinton1011
Jul 11, 2007

Mars4523 posted:


After reading The Faust series, where one of the main characters is a non sexualized, not involved in sex work succubus, reading about the White Court is just painful.


I just started reading the Faust series & I was getting a bit worried so its good to see this post. The first story is about a porn director who is trying to find a snuff film & one of his actresses dies under mysteries circumstances. Also there is a succubus who is magically bound & used as a sex slave. I assume she is set free & works with him moving forward based on your comments here. Despite all this none of it was described in a creepy way & nothing happens on screen.

I almost put the book down when I realized the main character was a magician working out of Las Vegas who uses playing cards when doing some of his magic. It seemed so cliche I had little hope for the rest of the book. I felt that was a poor reason to put a book down so I kept reading.

Despite all this I am really glad I kept reading, the book has been a lot of fun & has a good amount of humor in it. I like the fact that he isn't entirely good & doesn't have a problem with killing or ruining the lives of people who deserve it.

As a side note it actually seems like he introduced these seedy elements to draw in the fan base of books like the Anita Blake series.

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS

Clinton1011 posted:

I just started reading the Faust series & I was getting a bit worried so its good to see this post. The first story is about a porn director who is trying to find a snuff film & one of his actresses dies under mysteries circumstances. Also there is a succubus who is magically bound & used as a sex slave. I assume she is set free & works with him moving forward based on your comments here. Despite all this none of it was described in a creepy way & nothing happens on screen.

He does set her free, and they do start working together later, although occasionally at cross-purposes. They actually start dating a bit later in the book, although it doesn't get too absurdly sexualized. It's mostly dealing with the trust issues implicit in a demon from hell connecting with a mere mortal, there's only one sex scene, and that's still less absurdly male-gazey than Dresden gets.

ETA: In the interests of not killing this thread, I'm currently enjoying Three Parts Dead. Fascinating world-building, intriguing intrigue, and interestingly flawed characters. Pretty good, must advise it for anybody reading this thread.

darthbob88 fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Feb 17, 2015

Wolpertinger
Feb 16, 2011

darthbob88 posted:

He does set her free, and they do start working together later, although occasionally at cross-purposes. They actually start dating a bit later in the book, although it doesn't get too absurdly sexualized. It's mostly dealing with the trust issues implicit in a demon from hell connecting with a mere mortal, there's only one sex scene, and that's still less absurdly male-gazey than Dresden gets.

ETA: In the interests of not killing this thread, I'm currently enjoying Three Parts Dead. Fascinating world-building, intriguing intrigue, and interestingly flawed characters. Pretty good, must advise it for anybody reading this thread.

The whole Craft Sequence series is really great, yeah - I really like his bizarre worldbuilding.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
So, that's Rivers of London done. Pretty good, once I got into it, so I'm looking forward to the next one. Poor Lesley, though!

Loving Life Partner
Apr 17, 2003
Look who I got to meet today!


Sadly there was no saddle you could sit on for a photo op.

Driving around Chicago was cool, I feel like Dresden should mention what a loving ripoff parking is more, holy poo poo.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

You think Harry pays for parking?

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Loving Life Partner posted:

Driving around Chicago was cool, I feel like Dresden should mention what a loving ripoff parking is more, holy poo poo.

He does. And he frequently mentions parking like 2-3 blocks away from his destination.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Ghost Story works a lot better on paper than it does in practice. I think I can nail it down now - it's not that Harry gets more interesting when he has more people to bounce off, it's that the books get more interesting when characters are than Harry are doing things. The gang doing staff while Harry can do nothing but advise is interesting. Harry facing off against Corpsetaker (again) is the opposite of that.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

The version of Ghost Story that Jim promised and cited as the reason for the delay of that book probably would have been a lot better than what we actually got. As it stands, it's my least-favorite Dresden book.

Benny the Snake
Apr 11, 2012

GUM CHEWING INTENSIFIES
I just finished "The Long Way Down". I had much more fun reading that than I did reading any of the Dresden books. Seriously, I got the book last Saturday and I finished it today, it's that good to me. Thanks, whoever brought it up.

Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

Ornamented Death posted:

The version of Ghost Story that Jim promised and cited as the reason for the delay of that book probably would have been a lot better than what we actually got. As it stands, it's my least-favorite Dresden book.

What was that?

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

Nemesis Of Moles posted:

What was that?

Jim talked a lot about how difficult it was to figure out how Harry would get out of various situations without his magic and that's why it was taking him longer to write the book. Ultimately this proved too difficult for Jim because there's really no point in the story where Harry can't use magic; there's always a convenient wizard nearby that he can possess and solve his problems the old-fashioned way (fire).

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!
Except for the part where it wasn't Harry's magic being used so much as the person he possessed.

Also Harry ultimately didn't solve anything on his own, Mort, Karen, etc. were the ones that saved the day.

If it hadn't been for Uriel's intervention, Harry would have been obliterated when the Corpsetaker used Butters to blow his brains out, and then went on to possess Molly.

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Apoffys
Sep 5, 2011
Does anyone know what's going on with book two in the Checquy Files? I pre-ordered it last week because it had a release date this summer, then the next day Amazon pushed the date back to 2016 and now it's been pushed back again (to 2020!). I just checked the author's website and it apparently hasn't been updated since 2013 (at which point he was making good progress it seems).

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