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Is there a new episode tonight, because I noticed the thread isn't sticky?
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Feb 18, 2015 01:23
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Maybe it was all a setup by Stark to test Peggy to see if she's cut out to be the head of the eventual SHIELD, but it all went wrong when an actual evil shadowy organization showed up and started doing things.
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Feb 18, 2015 01:24
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There's been enough hints that the "obvious" story is that the Battle of Finael was a test run for a new type of super soldier after Cap died. Things went very, very wrong - and Stark found out and refused to work with the government. They label him a traitor and off we go. Hell, I wouldn't even be shocked to find out that Dottie stole Stark's inventory off of american orders.
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Feb 18, 2015 01:45
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Rirse posted:Is there a new episode tonight, because I noticed the thread isn't sticky? The ABC site says there is. Episode name SNAFU, which seems highly unladylike to say.
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Feb 18, 2015 02:08
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ToastyPotato posted:Insinuating that I am too young or too uneducated to understand the deep complexities of a show about sci-fi super weapons from WW2 is kind of dumb though, especially when you don't know how old I am and I don't know how old you are (not that it actually matters in any way.) Commies were kind of a big deal up till relatively recently, man. It's not an reasonable thing to assume in a period piece, even a silly sci-fi one. It's like, you know, assuming females are the ones who bring hu-mon young to term, internally even! Or fire = bad.
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Feb 18, 2015 02:14
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Commies were kind of a big deal up till relatively recently, man. It's not an reasonable thing to assume in a period piece, even a silly sci-fi one. It's like, you know, assuming females are the ones who bring hu-mon young to term, internally even! Or fire = bad. I guess I am just not seeing why Leviathan is being equated with " plain old commies" given the existence of HYDRA, their central role in this universe, and the fact that Nazism was more a means to an end, and not a core principle of their ultimate mission. I don't understand why "Commies = The Bad Guys, E-Z" is somehow "good enough" from a story telling perspective, when the show is kind of A) avoiding a lot of red scare lingo and talk, B) setting up things other than "Commies!" as the possible bad guys, and C) exists in a world where the ultimate bad guys weren't even plain ol' Nazis in the traditional, Hollywood sense (they have their own name, emblem, and don't refer to themselves as Nazis or even really refer to the party in anyway.)
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Feb 18, 2015 02:33
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:I brought it up because of your insistance that... ' I don't know man this show is as weighty as a cinnamon roll and Toasty's explanation sounds as good as any to me. A bit of a disappointment, really.
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Feb 18, 2015 02:35
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Basically you could swap Leviathan for HYDRA at this point in the story and other than the fact that they base they raided was in Soviet territory, nothing substantial to the story changes even remotely. I guess it kind of messes with Red Room if you really want Red Room to be directly tied to Black Widow, but you could hand wave it away by saying the Soviets found out about HYDRA's Red Room program and adopted it, creating the Black Widow program. That's why bringing up the whole Cold War era tension thing is pointless. Because with regards to the actual story we are watching, the bad guys could have just as easily been HYDRA, completely torpedoing that whole line of thinking, since we are no longer dealing with the USSR at that point. It would also make AC fit better with the current goings on in AoS. But that isn't really important. I hope today's ep finally fully explains Leviathan's deal, so that they can be defined properly within the story's world.
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Feb 18, 2015 02:44
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Doctor Faustus hahaha
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Feb 18, 2015 03:01
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And thus Alexander Ovechcin's grandfather survived the war
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Feb 18, 2015 03:04
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Holy crap, my broadcast of the episode is breaking up like crazy. Missing like every other line of dialogue. 
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Feb 18, 2015 03:07
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Just punch them Peggy. It won't help you legally but you'll feel so much better.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:07
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Oh goody, we're getting even creepier with the psychotic assassin.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:09
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Peggy is killing them. Jarvis just comes strolling in, hahaha.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:10
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I have no idea what Dottie's plan is. It's scary. JARVIS!
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Feb 18, 2015 03:10
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Jarvis is extremely powerful.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:11
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What, no record skip?
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Feb 18, 2015 03:11
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They have knocked it out of the park with what they've done with Peggy. I love watching her so much. I need more characters like this in my Marvel shows and movies.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:12
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That was the weakest handshake I've seen in a while.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:15
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Peggy. 
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Feb 18, 2015 03:16
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hahahaha jarvis you dork
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Feb 18, 2015 03:17
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Have you ever been hanged, Mr. Jarvis!?
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Feb 18, 2015 03:17
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Jarvis is just the best.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:18
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Maxwell Lord posted:Jarvis is just the best. I loving love Jarvis.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:21
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I need more Jarvis and Peggy in the MCU. I don't care if it makes sense or not, put them into Agents of SHIELD.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:22
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Peggy's dressing down of each of the male characters was goddamn fantastic.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:22
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Come on Chief bust outta this
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Feb 18, 2015 03:29
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And another one out the window.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:29
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I really hope the Chief is just playing along here. Doubt it though.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:30
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Nah he's hella dead.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:31
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Pretty dumb of him to bring up the window. It made the doc suspicious.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:31
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Souza or Jack are so dead.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:35
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I do like how they're rounding the formerly one-dimensional agents out a little better. That bit where Agent Whatsisname was not a dick to Sousa was pretty cool.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:36
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What's in the booooooox?!
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Feb 18, 2015 03:38
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Man, if item 17 was the Tesserect
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Feb 18, 2015 03:38
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Gonna be the Diviner. Or Robot Arm.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:39
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Do we know what that vest is?
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Feb 18, 2015 03:39
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Whatever happened to just shooting people?
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Feb 18, 2015 03:39
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Dottie knows wall jumping.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:39
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Too bad that guy didn't get the "shoot to kill" speech.
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