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Skuto posted:Yeah but did you have team picks like you do now? That naturally keeps the teams balanced provided the captains have *some* idea who's how strong. Yes it has always had captains picks. My point was more that for a small regular playerbase like in goonmans you don't really need a matchmaking/rating system to have fair games. If you are randomizing teams then yes you would need the rating system. quote:Have to put a strong punishment on the abandon though, else this is gameable in the manner described a few posts ago. The person that abandons has their rating adjusted by whatever amount the 5v5 loss would have been. As far as punishment goes I would rather see a dota style low priority queue for people that abandon rather than the cooldown we have in csgo right now.
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astr0man posted:The person that abandons has their rating adjusted by whatever amount the 5v5 loss would have been. In itself it doesn't help: if you play with a stack one player can sacrifice himself each time you're about to lose and the stack as a whole will lose rating slower on losses. The detriment is the punishment for the abandon, not the ratings loss (that would have happened anyway). quote:As far as punishment goes I would rather see a dota style low priority queue for people that abandon rather than the cooldown we have in csgo right now. Fixed number of games instead of time and having to play with other quitters/griefers? Yeah, I agree.
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No matter what you do people are always going to find a way to game your ratings system. I think it is better to just go about separating the punishment from the ratings system, i.e. if you have a stack with an abandon then just send the whole stack into LPQ. Also, if you want a really fair individual player rating you shouldn't allow people to queue for ranked with a stack. Either you queue solo or with 5, and for stacks with 5 you only assign ratings to the entire team of 5 rather than the individual players.
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astr0man posted:No matter what you do people are always going to find a way to game your ratings system. I think it is better to just go about separating the punishment from the ratings system, i.e. if you have a stack with an abandon then just send the whole stack into LPQ. Also, if you want a really fair individual player rating you shouldn't allow people to queue for ranked with a stack. Either you queue solo or with 5, and for stacks with 5 you only assign ratings to the entire team of 5 rather than the individual players. It's infinitely frustrating that the dota team had this figured out from the beginning and we still haven't gotten it.
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Feb 17, 2015 16:15
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Necc0 posted:It's infinitely frustrating that the dota team had this figured out from the beginning and we still haven't gotten it. I highly doubt that is coincidental. Valve are notorious for doing this kind of market testing. It is also plausible that there are not enough concurrent MM searches to cater to a low-priority queue. The number on steamgaug.es shows there are still about 10x as many people searching for DotA games, even if the unique player count is only 2x that of CS:GO these days.
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Necc0 posted:It's infinitely frustrating that the dota team had this figured out from the beginning and we still haven't gotten it. Dota2 still allows 2 & 3 stacks, just not 4 stacks for ranked (AFAIK). Which makes the whole solo/party MMR thing a bit strange.
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Jeza posted:The number on steamgaug.es shows there are still about 10x as many people searching for DotA games, even if the unique player count is only 2x that of CS:GO these days. That's odd. You sure its always like this? It's actually almost 20x now which makes no sense.
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I was top fragging on T on Overpass last night on sub.io, but managed to cost my team like 8 rounds on CT. I can't seem to figure CT side out. I die when I push and I die when I camp. Any words of wisdom or guides for overpass? I think the weirdness of the map throws off my game sense.
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Feb 17, 2015 16:33
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Skuto posted:That's odd. You sure its always like this? It's actually almost 20x now which makes no sense. Dota is way more popular across the globe and is at peak time in asian countries right now. Counter Strike isn't nearly as popular over there e: vvvv that too vvvv
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Skuto posted:That's odd. You sure its always like this? It's actually almost 20x now which makes no sense. It is not odd at all. DotA 2 only offers a MM service while CS:GO is still predominantly populated by private server hosts. Surf, DM, Public, every 3rd party MM service etc.
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Necc0 posted:Dota is way more popular across the globe and is at peak time in asian countries right now. Counter Strike isn't nearly as popular over there That might be true but I doubt you'd see 10x-20x the number of current players. Unfortunately http://store.steampowered.com/stats/ is down right now. Edit: According to SteamCharts it's actually 900k Dota vs 300k CSGO, so 3x not 20x :-) quote:DotA 2 only offers a MM service That's a great point. Also all the Casual CS:GO players don't count. Hiowf fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Feb 17, 2015 |
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:I was top fragging on T on Overpass last night on sub.io, but managed to cost my team like 8 rounds on CT. I can't seem to figure CT side out. I die when I push and I die when I camp. Any words of wisdom or guides for overpass? I think the weirdness of the map throws off my game sense. Totally not avoiding working right now. Overpass is a map where having good awareness pays dividends. The CT rotate is very short compared to other maps. Reading what the other team is doing and communication will help you anticipate getting to the right site before they even plant the bomb. Playing B is like playing most other CS bombsites - just hold your angles and use smokes. Holding A is where controlled aggression can really pay off in terms of gaining information - so pushing long A or stairs can tell you a massive amount about what the other team is doing, which on overpass is pretty game changing. It's hard to give any magic advice that will help you. Trying to survive rather than challenge is a more valid tactic when defending a site on overpass because you are likely to be able to have a 4-5man retake if you can stay alive. That just isn't the case for a map like d2, for example, although you do see pro teams do it occasionally - falling back from mid and b and then 5 man retaking. Never gonna see it happen in a goonman though.
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The creator of Mirage has released the sneak peak of Mirage II. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmG76q-7CaE It's for 1.6 and not GO
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Suran37 posted:The creator of Mirage has released the sneak peak of Mirage II. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmG76q-7CaE What a wanky snorefest of a video. 10 minutes about a video game map. gently caress. Map looks super open, might be interesting.
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Feb 17, 2015 18:48
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Ernie. posted:Have skins gotten exponentially more expensive or what? So I'm cashing out of CS:GO because lol all the guns are exactly the same skinned or not, and I'm getting a friend request per minute. I'm assuming these are all scammers trying to get me to give it to them off-market? edit: In other news the first 4-5 skins have already paid for my summer sale money so woohoo.
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Ernie. posted:So I'm cashing out of CS:GO because lol all the guns are exactly the same skinned or not, and I'm getting a friend request per minute. I'm assuming these are all scammers trying to get me to give it to them off-market? If they are lvl 0 yes this is the case. They will try to send you a bitly link or something like that to download malware so they can take your account and skins. Even high level people you have to be wary of and search them on steamrep if you do want to do an offsite sales, but that typically is only needed for items over $400. All the ones I have seen with long custom profile pages explaining who they are have been scammers as well, they have just a big block of text explaining their "conditions" for trading, and almost all will say you have to go first in a cash transaction. Alighieri fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Feb 17, 2015 |
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Suran37 posted:The creator of Mirage has released the sneak peak of Mirage II. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmG76q-7CaE someone should make a morrowind mod for cs that uses this music or a cs mod for morrowind w/e
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Stumbletron posted:a cs mod for morrowind w/e And I thought I had trouble connecting my shots now
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"Someone boost me mid" "Nah dude, just use these scrolls I found near Seyda Neen"
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For the last few weeks or so, I've been unable to download the vast majority of MM replays. This goes for my friends in those matches too. Anyone else having this?
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True and Real posted:Is Season not played? not as much since they updated the map, the old season was much better imo
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40 OZ posted:For the last few weeks or so, I've been unable to download the vast majority of MM replays. This goes for my friends in those matches too. Yup. Wanted to review a demo from a few days ago that had a guy playing real shady and I can't get it to download.
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lagcats posted:not as much since they updated the map, the old season was much better imo Agreed. The less bright ESEA one was perfect. That and the change to the trench in the new one drive me nuts
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All my keys have finally paid off! I just opened a top-tier item: a foil sticker 
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True and Real posted:Agreed. The less bright ESEA one was perfect. That and the change to the trench in the new one drive me nuts I thought I was the only one that hates the blindingly bright walls.
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1v4 clutch ace from mm tonight on season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsbbcwNYwMg
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Gristley Bear posted:I thought I was the only one that hates the blindingly bright walls. I sometimes have a hard time seeing where the corners are. Can't be the only one to have this problem, can I?
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Got my first clutch tonight as well. 2v1 on T-side of...gently caress, what map was it? Tecron or something like that? I had good teammates who gave me really great position information and allowed me to kill the last two CT's though. Kinda wish I had recorded it.
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You guys are all wrong because Season is one of the few maps that does contrast right. Like the only possible sight line that I could ever find any issue with is maybe on lower B if you're trying to look at T-side upper that has a ton of visual noise from the tree leaves outside.
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The Jumpoff posted:Got my first clutch tonight as well. 2v1 on T-side of...gently caress, what map was it? Tecron or something like that? I had good teammates who gave me really great position information and allowed me to kill the last two CT's though. Kinda wish I had recorded it. If it was on goonmans, all matches are available on sub.io If it was regular MM, you can open CS and goto watch > your matches to see your last 8 games
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Powerful Wizard IRL posted:oh my god mirage2 why not make it for csgo
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The Kins posted:He started making it before CS:GO was even announced, and he decided he didn't have the time or motivation to learn a "new" level editor (despite CSGO Hammer still just being the HL1 Hammer with extra buttons and poo poo grafted onto its corpse). I'm pretty sure you can just load GoldSrc maps in Source Hammer anyway.
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Luigi Thirty posted:I'm pretty sure you can just load GoldSrc maps in Source Hammer anyway. It can be painful, but he probably could have gotten it into CS:GO in a greybox state in like, a month or two. Granted, that'd be a month or two of just fixing and updating poo poo with no actual progress on the layout etc., which might be a bit demoralizing... I doubt he'll have trouble finding someone who can GO the map up for him.
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The Kins posted:I doubt he'll have trouble finding someone who can GO the map up for him. I'd do it. Be good practice, actually.
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