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Rigged Death Trap posted:It doesnt cure poo poo. Remulak posted:Also a great diarrhea cure! I'd say it does cure poo poo. 
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Opium doesn't really make the symptoms go away though. They're there but you just stop giving a gently caress.
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Feb 16, 2015 17:32
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DemeaninDemon posted:Opium doesn't really make the symptoms go away though. They're there but you just stop giving a gently caress. No, it's an actual cough suppressant, and it does indeed stop diarrhoea. You also stop giving a gently caress, but that doesn't mean it doesn't fix the symptoms.
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Feb 16, 2015 17:44
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C.P.A.N. posted:Welcome to you're "Doom!" Welcome to you are doom? And why the quotes? Is this some kind of ironic doom? Next time send a postcard to Strunk and White, idiot!
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Feb 16, 2015 17:58
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I'm so glad someone caught that. 
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Feb 16, 2015 18:07
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DigitalRaven posted:No, it's an actual cough suppressant, and it does indeed stop diarrhoea. You also stop giving a gently caress, but that doesn't mean it doesn't fix the symptoms. Oh right which is why we get tcc stories of no making GBS threads for days followed by bowel-tearing shits that'd clog the headworks of a small poop factory.
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Feb 16, 2015 18:16
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DigitalRaven posted:No, it's an actual cough suppressant, It's also about the only cough suppressant that actually works. All the OTC ones are no better than placebo.
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Feb 16, 2015 18:35
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Nonsense, an entire bottle of exlax makes an excellent cough suppressant. You'll be afraid to cough.
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Feb 16, 2015 18:37
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Phanatic posted:It's also about the only cough suppressant that actually works. All the OTC ones are no better than placebo. Theobromine works, but you can just eat dark chocolate rather than going to a pharmacy.
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Feb 16, 2015 18:38
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They really are not better than jolly ranchers. You could probably get the same effect out of a menthol cigarette (I don't think that'd help your cough much ).
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Feb 16, 2015 18:41
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IIRC from my college psychopharmacology class, opium/heroin is also one of the best drugs for relieving the anxiety that arises when you can't breathe (due to lung disease or lung trauma).
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Feb 16, 2015 19:42
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Regarding alcohol's medicinal use, a friend had kidney stones. When he couldn't afford surgery (which was deemed more risk than reward, anyway), a legit MD "prescribed" beer and sex. His wife was there, and she confirmed the story and was more for the idea than he was. The beer was for diuretic effect. I think the sex was for endorphins, but it may have had a purpose beyond that.
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Feb 16, 2015 21:30
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That's one helluva prescription.
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Feb 16, 2015 23:02
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Eye surgeons have cabinets of medical cocaine for surgical purposes. I've always wondered if seized cocaine winds up getting used for that...
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Random Stranger posted:Eye surgeons have cabinets of medical cocaine for surgical purposes. I've always wondered if seized cocaine winds up getting used for that... The BBC did a good series on the history of drugs and medicine about a year ago, called Pain, Pus and Poison. In it, the medical journalist, Dr Michael Mosley, cheerfully partakes of drat near every painkiller he can get his paws on. He huffs some ether, puts cocaine in his eyeball, has some chloroform and then tops it off by getting completed rat-arsed on sodium thiopental. And that's only in the first episode, in the second one he toddles off to Atlanta to see if he can have a gander at their smallpox sample. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01f51s5/episodes/guide -it's getting repeated over the next couple of weeks, I'd strongly advise people looking for a well-presented overview of the history of medicine to watch it on the iPlayer once it becomes available.
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Feb 17, 2015 00:06
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Old medicines, tons of fun. Asthma cigarettes, not recommended for children under 6.
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Feb 17, 2015 00:58
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Random Stranger posted:Eye surgeons have cabinets of medical cocaine for surgical purposes. I've always wondered if seized cocaine winds up getting used for that... All medicinal cocaine in America is made via an extraction of coca leaves in St. Louis by Mallinckrodt.
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Using seized cocaine for medical purposes seems like it would be an accident waiting to happen.
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Gobbeldygook posted:All medicinal cocaine in America is made via an extraction of coca leaves in St. Louis by Mallinckrodt. Well you're no fun.
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Gobbeldygook posted:All medicinal cocaine in America is made via an extraction of coca leaves in St. Louis by Mallinckrodt. The de‐cocainised leaves are then used to flavour Coca‐Cola. Platystemon has a new favorite as of 02:19 on Feb 17, 2015 |
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Random Stranger posted:Well you're no fun. You'll find that Gobbeldygook actually works for Mallinckrodt and is in reality loads of fun.
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Feb 17, 2015 03:10
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All I know is that quite a few doctors who use in drug addiction health care have tried most of the stuff at least once, just so they can imagine what the addict is feeling.
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So I was making pieces for a comicon costume and I needed to make some metal look rusted. I tried a simple mild acid (vinegar) and (30%) H2O2 solution after using a household degreaser on the metal. It worked fine on the first piece but the second piece refused to rust. I ended up using stronger acid with the same concentration of H2O2 and I apparently ended up making piranha solution. Fun stuff until it started trying to eat my pants.
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fallin1 posted:So I was making pieces for a comicon costume and I needed to make some metal look rusted. I tried a simple mild acid (vinegar) and (30%) H2O2 solution after using a household degreaser on the metal. It worked fine on the first piece but the second piece refused to rust. I ended up using stronger acid with the same concentration of H2O2 and I apparently ended up making piranha solution. Fun stuff until it started trying to eat my pants. Where'd you get nitric acid?
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Rabbit Hill posted:IIRC from my college psychopharmacology class, opium/heroin is also one of the best drugs for relieving the anxiety that arises when you can't breathe (due to lung disease or lung trauma). or from opiate overdose
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Over in another thread, I learned that there's currently clinical trials for using Ketamine (vet tranquilizer-turned-rave drug) to combat severe depression in humans. e: found the link: slap me silly posted:Ooh, here's a fun one: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01920555 JacquelineDempsey has a new favorite as of 18:53 on Feb 17, 2015 |
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ArcMage posted:Where'd you get nitric acid? You can get it at garden supply stores. It's used to change the PH of soil.
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ArcMage posted:Where'd you get nitric acid? I used virgin sulfuric.
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ArcMage posted:Where'd you get nitric acid? Piranha solution is sulfuric acid and H2O2, not nitric acid. I've used it for REALLY stubborn drain clogs where the sulfuric alone couldn't handle it. Edit: Beaten 
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Over in another thread, I learned that there's currently clinical trials for using Ketamine (vet tranquilizer-turned-rave drug) to combat severe depression in humans. I found this study a couple months ago. At John Hopkins, they are studying "Effects of Hallucinogens and Other Drugs on Mood and Performance". quote:Twenty volunteers between 21-50 years old will each participate in 16 total sessions, including sessions for: screening, preparation, experiment/drug, immediate follow-ups, a 1-month follow-up and 1 post completion urine collection. On each of five experimental session participants will orally ingest capsules of either a placebo or varying doses of one of 18 different psychoactive compounds.
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Gobbeldygook posted:I found this study a couple months ago. At John Hopkins, they are studying "Effects of Hallucinogens and Other Drugs on Mood and Performance". Somewhere in the world, someone is genuinely attempting to use PCP to treat depression. Godspeed you crazy scientists.
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Un chien andalou posted:You can get it at garden supply stores. It's used to change the PH of soil. What concentration? Nitric acid's a big reagent when it comes to this thread.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Somewhere in the world, someone is genuinely attempting to use PCP to treat depression. A study somewhere showed that LSD actually helped treat depression and chronic pain quite well but I'm damned if I can find it now.
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ArcMage posted:Where'd you get nitric acid? I was surprised how easy it was to get a carboy of conc. nitric recently. I was expecting to sign a bunch of paperwork and explain what we needed it for (clean some machinery) and go on a register and so on and so forth. Instead it was "Wednesday OK?". The fact that we buy other chemicals from them all the time probably helped, but I still expected it to need more than a phone call.
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It's not hard at all to get chemicals. The huge companies tend to only sell to university and registered research labs, but if you do a quick search you'll find a lot of smaller online stores that sell lots of stuff to anyone. In most countries there are several levels of restricted chemicals, though. Common acids such as nitric tend to be not on it, but things used to make illegal drugs or explosives are. If you want to buy stuff that's on a list, they'll at least ask what it's needed for and send your information to the government. For more serious stuff you need to get a government permit first, which I know nothing about because I never had to order stuff like that. This can lead to some weird things, though. There's quite a few "amateur chemists", which are basically people with more money than brain, that set up an entire lab in their basement and start synthesizing stuff (often not even drugs, just random chemicals) as a hobby. I don't really like the idea of people doing that in residential areas, but unless they order loads of restricted stuff or blow themselves up, nobody is going to stop them. I heard a story from a Norwegian amateur chemist who was questioned by the police because he happened to buy from a small chemical supplier who had also sold stuff to child-murderer Breivik.
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Carbon dioxide posted:In most countries there are several levels of restricted chemicals, though. Common acids such as nitric tend to be not on it, but things used to make illegal drugs or explosives are. If you want to buy stuff that's on a list, they'll at least ask what it's needed for and send your information to the government. For more serious stuff you need to get a government permit first, which I know nothing about because I never had to order stuff like that. Some seemingly innocuous stuff is on the DEA's radar. For example, it's practically impossible to buy iodine now because of its use in the HI/P synthesis of methamphetamine.
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Carbon dioxide posted:Common acids such as nitric tend to be not on it, but things used to make illegal drugs or explosives are. Nitric acid is a precursor for... pretty much any explosive you care to name.
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Drone_Fragger posted:A study somewhere showed that LSD actually helped treat depression and chronic pain quite well but I'm damned if I can find it now. Yeah, but even then, there's a pretty big gulf between LSD and angel dust. The only way PCP is curing depression is "if I'm depressed, how can I fist-fight all these people?"
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Yeah, but even then, there's a pretty big gulf between LSD and angel dust.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Yeah, but even then, there's a pretty big gulf between LSD and angel dust. pcp is not actually terminator juice, though yes, it is a far cry from LSD, which is one of the physically safest drugs out there. As far as medical efficacy, well... A single dose of LSD seems promising for depression. The first LSD study in 40 years found that coupled with psychotherapy it is effective at improving the quality of life of terminal patients: article Studies from the 60s seem to imply it is also effective at treating alcoholism after one dose: report (the article is behind a paywall so this is a bbc report link) Finally, LSD has anecdotally been observed to be insanely effective at completely alleviating cluster headaches (report), which are one of the most fuckoff painful things a human being can endure. In fact, for many people, psychedelics seem to be the only thing that works on them - and nobody knows why (or even if this is anything other than placebo effect, though even for a self reported study, the level of efficacy is very promising), all while the drug prohibition stonewalls research into that. Shame. dex_sda has a new favorite as of 12:49 on Feb 18, 2015 |
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