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Welp. How many ssr dudes will make it to the finale
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Dear Howard Stark, I have a leetle question for you: Why did you design a piece of armour that is unable to be removed?
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Feb 18, 2015 03:54
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Codependent Poster posted:Well it wasn't built to explode, that's why Stark kept it away from people. Origins of Damage Control! If a world without Reed Richards, you need someone to build doomsday weapons in their spare time.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:54
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Um what
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Feb 18, 2015 03:57
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Oh what the hell now.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:57
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Man these guys are dicks.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:57
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Oh god. it's the rage virus
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Feb 18, 2015 03:58
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Oh poo poo, rage
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Feb 18, 2015 03:58
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This seems a lot like a petty act. Holy poo poo its Kingsmen!
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Feb 18, 2015 03:58
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Angrymaker.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:58
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Freebird!
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Feb 18, 2015 03:59
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Oh my God It's a Kingsman device
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Feb 18, 2015 03:59
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Your cheapass husband saved your life alright lady
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Feb 18, 2015 03:59
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That must have been one terrible movie!
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Feb 18, 2015 03:59
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Funny timing with Kingsman having just come out.
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Feb 18, 2015 03:59
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Well okay but what's their end goal?
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Feb 18, 2015 03:59
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Codependent Poster posted:Funny timing with Kingsman having just come out. Well, originally Kingsman was supposed to come out last September, this is just an odd coincidence.
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Feb 18, 2015 04:01
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That explains what happened in Russia.
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Feb 18, 2015 04:01
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Xtanstic posted:Well okay but what's their end goal? Weaponizing a rage gas would have plenty of uses. Have enemy soldiers tear themselves apart, have whole cities tear themselves apart, possibly rework it to strengthen your own soldiers. Prerequisite to The Hulk.
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Feb 18, 2015 04:03
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Something tells me that they have more than just one canister of Freebird. It's also kinda what Red Skull did in Uncanny Avengers when he had Professer X's brain. twistedmentat fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Feb 18, 2015 |
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Feb 18, 2015 04:03
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During Peggy's interrogation, when Jack was in the shadows, leaning against the mirror, he looked like Ward. When I said that, my kid agreed.
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Feb 18, 2015 04:14
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Yeah, that was just a test to make sure it was still viable, he said as much when Dottie picked him up.
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Feb 18, 2015 04:14
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Poor Douley. If only he'd been wearing his hat, fedoras are proof positive against mind control rays. I really liked his nonchalant approach to police work. "You think there's a vicious foreign assassin hiding in the other building? Take the cripple and a bunch of mooks and go check it out. Don't even hide that you're coming, just kinda cruise in there like you own the place instead of taking any appropriate countermeasures. If you could split up like it's a Scooby-Doo caper and search one man per floor in a ten-story building, that'd be great...And definitely don't establish a perimeter or anything. Waste of time. Women can only take out squads of highly-trained agents if they're British."
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Feb 18, 2015 04:19
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It's a madbomb!!!
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Feb 18, 2015 04:23
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Little Mac posted:It's a madbomb!!! That's... actually not a bad guess. It was a sonic device in 616, but I suppose that's a pretty minor liberty to take.
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Feb 18, 2015 04:28
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Yeah madbomb was a sonic but I mean Dr. Faustus wasn't Russian and yet this guy is pretty much Dr. Faustus.
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Feb 18, 2015 04:30
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Stark is kind of evil, inventing all of these terrible weapons, huh? Jeez. Also, I still don't understand what the end goal for Leviathan is. I thought it would have been Steve's blood, but they didn't even grab any of the crap they could have from the room, despite them having stolen blue prints earlier. So I guess they want to gas some more people, but how is that necessarily better than anything else they could have grabbed? Were they even interested in those super imploder bombs from before? I feel like I remember the dude saying he was selling them on his own because they didn't want them? Fun episode though, outside of the Chief dying. Jarvis had better be in more Marvel stuff in the future.
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Feb 18, 2015 04:30
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Next year, for the Winter Break, we need The Adventures Of Peggy And Jarvis. Just those two, going on missions together.
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Feb 18, 2015 04:33
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Kheldarn posted:During Peggy's interrogation, when Jack was in the shadows, leaning against the mirror, he looked like Ward. When I said that, my kid agreed. Does your kid think that Ward shot the dog? This is important. ToastyPotato posted:Jarvis had better be in more Marvel stuff in the future. Give us more Agent Carter 
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Feb 18, 2015 04:35
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Little Mac posted:Yeah madbomb was a sonic but I mean Dr. Faustus wasn't Russian and yet this guy is pretty much Dr. Faustus. No, I mean, he's definitely MCU Dr. Faustus. I doubt he'll be called that here (though he must have used the Faustus name at some point, as he was namedropped early in SHIELD S2), but he was holding a copy of the Marlowe play that was conspicuously in the middle of the frame. Anyway, I really enjoyed that episode. I'm still kinda disappointed that Ivchenko/Faustus and Dottie are going to be the main antagonists for the finale; they're fun characters, but they feel like secondary villains to me, given that whoever's pulling their strings at Leviathan HQ remains perpetually offscreen. Oh well, hopefully we'll at least get a better sense of what their ultimate agenda is next week.
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Feb 18, 2015 05:20
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I think the whole thing about captain america's blood was a misdirection to everyone and that Leviathan was always after that rage gas in the first place. It would make sense that the battle they keep talking about happened when a mass quantity of the gas was leaked onto the battlefield and everyone killed each other. The US general probably wanted to weaponize it but Stark was so opposed he quit on the spot. I don't think Leviathan have even said a word about the blood at all.
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Feb 18, 2015 05:37
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Working out this timeline... Stark invents a weapon that is used on Russian soldiers at the battle of Finow. There's a massive cover-up as to what really happened at the battle. This leads to Stark having a what-have-I-done moment and he basically breaks off weapon sales to the US military. The US military is, to probably put it mildly, displeased. Leviathan, as a covert Russian intelligence agency, knows that something new was used on their soldiers and presumably after some intelligence gathering, figures out that Stark has some new weapon and that this new weapon is in his vault of undesirable inventions. They send one of their agents, Leet Brannis, to break into Stark's vault and steal his weapons. Unfortunately for Leviathan, Leet Brannis ends up deciding to go his own way and starts selling Stark's inventions on the black market for his own profit. He hires Jerome Zandow to guard the boat full of Stark weapons while he sells the rest. He finds Van Ert and works out a profit-sharing partnership where Brannis supplies the formula and Van Ert makes the Nitramene bombs. Then, Brannis finds buyers in people like Spider Raymond (and others). Stark's inventions start showing up in enemy hands, and he's called to Congress to testify and answer testy questions from Congressmen. When he disappears, SSR is called in to find him. Meanwhile, Leviathan notices their agent just went rogue (fairly obvious with Stark weapons showing up) so they send Sasha Demidov to track down Brannis and probably kill him (for his disloyalty) after finding where the Stark weapons are. Demidov keeps running into more and more issues as he tries to find Brannis, including one Agent Carter that he specifically requests further orders on. I would imagine that given the existence of Black Widows, the Russian side is a bit more savvy re: competence of female spies and would have a dossier on Agent Carter in specific with her war records and high profile relations with both Steve and more relevant to their current line of inquiry, Howard Stark. Given that background, they dispatch Dottie Underwood right away to stealthily get into a good position near Carter where she can gather information, support Leviathan operations in the area, and neutralize a good agent on the other side when ordered to. By the time she gets there, Demidov is explosively dead, as is Brannis, so she just gets into a good position and waits for further orders. Finding Stark's inventions in the boat did not seem like a small or quiet operation so Dottie knows the SSR has, at least, Brannis' boat and Jerome Zandow. She waits for a good time then kills Krzeminski because he's a witness and Zandow for knowing about Leviathan (or at least Brannis) to start containing info on their organization and methods. (Can't talk about Leviathan if you're dead.) But Dottie's location in the Griffith means she's not in a good position (and, Agent Carter aside, the right gender) to know what's going on inside the SSR. Leviathan uses a combination of the typewriter message to draw the SSR to the location then the Baby Widow to make sure they get far enough into the facility where they can find Dr. Ivchenko to create a scenario where they can insert a man on the inside. Meanwhile, Dottie cases Carter's room and finds proof in a photograph that SSR has the Stark goods they're looking for. This means Dottie doesn't have to interrogate Carter for information. While Dr. Ivchenko does his information gathering, she acts as support. She also gets her next order to kill Carter, which ends up not working out when SSR agents arrive before she gets to do so. And this last episode is the two Leviathan agents causing chaos and acquiring and testing said Stark weapon. ... So, maybe this was a long way to say that Leviathan seems a bit angry over Stark's weapon being used on their soldiers. 
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Feb 18, 2015 06:17
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Man I'm really enjoying this show, is next week the finale?
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Feb 18, 2015 06:58
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The chief died like Segata Sanshiro threw him, I just about choked on a glass of water when that happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3lCF8O2N50&t=236s (3 minutes 56 seconds)
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Barry Convex posted:No, I mean, he's definitely MCU Dr. Faustus. I doubt he'll be called that here (though he must have used the Faustus name at some point, as he was namedropped early in SHIELD S2), but he was holding a copy of the Marlowe play that was conspicuously in the middle of the frame. It sucks this is going to get canceled despite glowing reviews for the most part. At least it was built with a contained story in mind from the start. ToastyPotato posted:Stark is kind of evil, inventing all of these terrible weapons, huh? Jeez. Remember a lot of them were invented by mistake, then just kept because they did something. Maybe the rage gas was intended to get an entire party high off their rear end in one hit, seems like something Stark'd do. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Feb 18, 2015 |
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Feb 18, 2015 08:17
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Blazing Ownager posted:Remember a lot of them were invented by mistake, then just kept because they did something. I actually really enjoyed his refreshingly honest explanation in the first episode for why he created a lot of them - he can't stop his brain from coming up with ideas, and his curiosity means he can't resist trying to see if he can make it work.... and then when it's done he knows it is too dangerous so he locks it up in a vault, but he could never destroy any of them because they're things HE made.
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Feb 18, 2015 08:47
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Right but hear me out: what if he just doesn't do that.
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Feb 18, 2015 10:10
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BrianWilly posted:Right but hear me out: what if he just doesn't do that. You might as well ask Stan Lee not to make cameos.
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Feb 18, 2015 10:15
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That was a good episode. drat, this show picked up steam towards the end.
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You know one thing I like about the show's aesthetic (and am going to miss) is just how dark it gets. It'll be rolling along all light hearted, and then feature scenes of people gouging each other's eyes out and exploding. And yet, it doesn't feel insane.
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