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Teenage Fansub posted:I thought the map was telling us that the New Gods sat above the Orrery, but here the Kirby world had their own set? I got the sense that the worlds outside the Orrery are where the true version of the Gods exist. The way the New Gods were talking in the Kamandi universe, it seems like they were "projections" of the larger God idea outside the Orrery, like Hindu avatars.
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Do we yet know why Earth-8 has the 90s DC logo? I know Earth-8 circa Infinite Crisis was supposed to be a world for 90s DC characters (Kyle Rayner, etc) but now that it's a Marvel pastiche I'm confused.
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Feb 1, 2015 07:23
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Probably because it's an obvious comic company logo.
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Feb 1, 2015 07:40
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I assumed it was the DC bullet when we just had Earth logos to go by, but I'm guessing it's supposed to recall a Cap America type shield.
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Feb 1, 2015 07:44
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Evil Mastermind posted:Probably because it's an obvious comic company logo.
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Feb 1, 2015 08:46
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Bleedingcool has the Guidebook sitting at #4 for the week in their retailer poll, which is pretty good for an $8 comic. I have been curious about how well the series sells. http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/02/02/bleeding-cool-bestseller-list-2nd-feb-2015-batman-goes-swim/
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Feb 2, 2015 21:23
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Teenage Fansub posted:Bleedingcool has the Guidebook sitting at #4 for the week in their retailer poll, which is pretty good for an $8 comic. I have been curious about how well the series sells. It sells a little less than 50,000 since Thunderworld.
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Feb 4, 2015 05:50
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There's only been the Guidebook since Thunderworld.
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Feb 4, 2015 05:55
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I kinda feel sorry for Grant Morrison right now; he finally manages to put together and codify the 52, getting the whole thing published after years of work...and today DC announced they're ditching the New 52.
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Feb 7, 2015 21:32
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Evil Mastermind posted:I kinda feel sorry for Grant Morrison right now; he finally manages to put together and codify the 52, getting the whole thing published after years of work...and today DC announced they're ditching the New 52. As much as I love Multiversity, I wish Morrison would ditch DC forever after it's done and go do Hypercrisis stuff at Marvel. Though he could still be mad about the Magneto thing...
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Feb 7, 2015 21:36
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What's sad is that this is pretty much the same thing that happened after Final Crisis. Morrison: "Okay, here you go. I've set up Earth as the Fifth World, age of men as gods, even a way out of the grimdark stuff you've been focusing on." DC: "Thanks. By the way, we're resetting the whole multiverse next week so none of that stuff matters anymore."
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Feb 7, 2015 22:00
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It's a constant thing with him. He creates new characters and grandiose ideas for other people to grab and run with and they either fade into obscurity or languish untouched for years. Seven Soldiers was designed to offer a backdoor into seven ongoing titles but nothing came of it, Final Crisis establishes a new status quo that's quickly ignored and reset, Multiversity heralds stories of an interconnected universe just in time for DC to brush continuity under the rug. At least there's creators out there paying attention and willing to play in his sandbox, even if it's years down the line. I'm still flabbergasted that Midas and Dominatrix from Marvel Boy were so prominent in Original Sin.
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Feb 7, 2015 22:43
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Evil Mastermind posted:I kinda feel sorry for Grant Morrison right now; he finally manages to put together and codify the 52, getting the whole thing published after years of work...and today DC announced they're ditching the New 52. They're ditching the New 52 branding and adopting a looser editorial approach. There's no indication at all that they're scrapping the New 52 continuity.
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Feb 7, 2015 23:14
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Morrison loving LOVES DC, dude. If he was mad about them futzing with continuity (the third time they've done so while he's worked for them,) he wouldn't have constructed a new Superman origin for them right after FC. I'm sure that aspect is a big part of the fascination for him. He had an arc in Animal Man dedicated to the continuity ghosts created by Crisis on Infinite Earths. e: and of course the depiction of DC history through Crisises in the guidebook. Hands of the creators and all that. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Feb 7, 2015 |
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Feb 7, 2015 23:38
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Evil Mastermind posted:I kinda feel sorry for Grant Morrison right now; he finally manages to put together and codify the 52, getting the whole thing published after years of work...and today DC announced they're ditching the New 52. Haha, I was wondering when they'd drop the charade.
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Feb 8, 2015 00:12
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I wouldn't be surprised if he preferred the DC style of rebooting over the rewriting of history that Marvel does with it's continuity like his New X-Men run or One More Day.
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Feb 11, 2015 03:19
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Mastermen preview http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=26095  The dreaded Jim Lee issue looks great so far. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Feb 15, 2015 |
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Feb 15, 2015 23:19
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Okay, seriously digging that pirate universe alternate cover.
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Feb 15, 2015 23:54
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Evil Mastermind posted:Okay, seriously digging that pirate universe alternate cover. Aaron Kuder is the best. I wonder how that Superman comic exists on this Earth.
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Feb 16, 2015 00:07
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Morrison really loves combining Hitler and toilets, huh?
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Feb 16, 2015 01:09
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I'm surprised he's reading a generic Superman comic rather than one of the other Multiversity books. On the other hand, this is the universe where Kal-El's pod landed in Germany rather than Kansas, and the cover shows Superman punching Hitler in the face--have messages been shuttling back and forth between universes inside comic books longer than we think?
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Feb 16, 2015 01:33
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The interesting thing is that on the last page it's a Captain America (well, Not captain America Really) comic that he's running his fingers over instead.
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Feb 16, 2015 01:37
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I have to say, not a great issue this month. The Sivana-made Freedom Fighters didn't even do anything! Still, this is the biggest entry point for the Gentry we've seen so far; a hero killed an entire city of innocent people. And now, in one month...Ultraa Comics. 
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Yeah besides more Sivana and Gentry there wasn't a whole lot going on in Mastermen. I did like how it showed the "corruption" of a Nazi-controlled Earth (ie Sivana helping the good guys). Also I just noticed in this issue that cases full of trophies are a recurring theme: Overman is sat looking at a bunch of things in class balls in this issue, there were all the cabinets being strolled past in the opening pages of Pax Americana and the old super suits on display in The Just. Which either means something about preserving things as they are, or it's just a superhero trope that the artists keep using to fill in background detail. Reference to the Ring cycle was cute, in context of Pax Americana and history repeating itself and stuff.
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Feb 18, 2015 16:23
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I am wondering now if the Sivanas are knowingly working with the Gentry, are being manipulated by the Gentry, or are just taking advantage of everything that's going on for their own benefit.
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Evil Mastermind posted:I am wondering now if the Sivanas are knowingly working with the Gentry, are being manipulated by the Gentry, or are just taking advantage of everything that's going on for their own benefit. Sivana was involved in setting off 52 so it wouldn't be the first time he was unwittedly involved in a multiverse level disaster.
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I really do hope that the Sivana Multiversal Consortium keeps being a thing after Multiversity is over, because it's such a great concept. Also, Uberman says he was gone "only three years". Was that when we was in Superman Beyond? I got the impression that happened after he realized the truth of what the Nazis were doing. e: something I just noticed on a re-read; Leatherwing tells Underwater man that Uberman didn't see anything off in Living Bomb's cellular structure. But that's not what happend; Uberman specifically calls out Bomb's rapid healing. Evil Mastermind fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Feb 18, 2015 |
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Senor Candle posted:Sivana was involved in setting off 52 so it wouldn't be the first time he was unwittedly involved in a multiverse level disaster. Haha, man, you don't know Sivana. That is how Sivana rolls. Dude doesn't give a poo poo. He colonized Mars with his bare hands. He tried to murder time. He decided to murder a policeman in broad daylight just because he could. Sivana owns. He is the best mad scientist ever. Lex Luthor wishes he was Sivana.
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Evil Mastermind posted:I really do hope that the Sivana Multiversal Consortium keeps being a thing after Multiversity is over, because it's such a great concept. I always figured the events in Superman Beyond took place in between heartbeats for all involved. I think the 3 years was a trip to outer space because that's where he got the anti-aging stuff for Lena. That actually reminded me of his trip to outer space in Superman Returns.
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Feb 18, 2015 20:34
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Who was the atomic character this issue?
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WickedHate posted:Who was the atomic character this issue? Ray Lincoln aka Human Bomb http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Roy_Lincoln_(Earth-Two)
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Feb 18, 2015 21:01
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Haha, nazi Batman's grandpa is Enemy Ace
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Feb 19, 2015 02:47
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Hans von Hammer weren't no ratzi, though. Leatherwing was a total dick.
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If Enemy Ace was his grandpa, who was his grandma? Because god drat those are some serious thunder-thighs, Bruce.
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Maybe his pants are just poofy.
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Feb 19, 2015 06:30
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MC von Hammer
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Premeditated Toast posted:If Enemy Ace was his grandpa, who was his grandma? Because god drat those are some serious thunder-thighs, Bruce. You can see in the sketch variant cover that they're supposed to be flared-leg trousers in the style of Nazi-era German officer uniforms (themselves an artifact of cavalry-mounted officers wearing jodhpurs), but I'm guessing the inker and/or colorist missed the mark and gave us Herr Bruce Onatopp. 
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It's within the 60 years later 2016 section without any other time marker, but the Freedom Fighters unveiling scene has to be a flashback, right? Them being survivors of purges from the 50's and 60's doesn't go with the year, making me think that's the start/first incarnation of the group. Is that Phantom Lady there and in the opera house? If it is, she's had a costume change from the earlier scene. I guess Uncle Sam is usually immortal or swapping bodies of old patriots, so his age might not factor, though he is just a hologram elsewhere. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Feb 19, 2015 |
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Feb 19, 2015 13:42
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Nazi Bruce never skips leg hour.
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Hey guys I did some updating of the list of universes and their sources I posted upthread.Teenage Fansub posted:It's within the 60 years later 2016 section without any other time marker, but the Freedom Fighters unveiling scene has to be a flashback, right? Huh, that's an interesting theory. And it'd make sense; Uncle Sam is supposed to be an immortal "spirit of freedom" but if his concept of freedom is wiped out, where does that leave him? I'm still picking a few things up on re-reads, but overall I think this is a story that needed more than a single issue to really work with. It's like trying to jam Red Son into 30 pages.
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