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flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

agg stop posting
College Slice

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

I must be blind. Did they make an SFC version of the FC30 or something?



Looks like on the Japanese site it comes out some time in April.

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Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

flyboi posted:



Looks like on the Japanese site it comes out some time in April.

I'm definitely blind then; I was just on the site and didn't see that anywhere. Thank you!

Gonna order one and replace the shell with a real SNES controller shell because reasons

You know what's funny, though. I pretty much hate all PC/wireless controllers because they never, ever have 6 face buttons. I bought a few cheap Saitek brand USB controllers about 12 years ago and the sole reason was because they had 6 face buttons (like the Genesis 6 button pad). No matter how hard I try, I cannot play Street Fighter, MvC, or Killer Instinct using shoulder buttons. Like it's almost completely impossible for me but I play great when the 6 face buttons are there.

The original XBox had the weirdest remedy for that: using the white and black buttons as if they were part of the other 4. :stonklol:

Jadius
May 12, 2001

FISSION MAILED!

Light Gun Man posted:

It's got playstation button labels are we sure it doesn't work on other stuff?

It appears to share the same shell as this if not outright sharing the same electronics, and 8bitdo said that it works through USB as well as BT, so I'd be surprised if it didn't work on PS3 and 360 at the very least. It probably still wouldn't be tournament legal since it looks like it allows for programmable macros, though.

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

Gonna order one and replace the shell with a real SNES controller shell because reasons

This was pretty much my plan as well.

kynikos
Aug 15, 2001
Has anyone installed viletim's N64RGB board (RGB on any N64 model) or SMSFM board (FM sound for certain Master System games)? As a heads up, they are back in stock now and I'm considering picking them up. If you've installed either or both in the past, how difficult was the process for you?

Caitlin
Aug 18, 2006

When I die, if there is a heaven, I will spend eternity rolling around with a pile of kittens.

Jadius posted:

It appears to share the same shell as this if not outright sharing the same electronics, and 8bitdo said that it works through USB as well as BT, so I'd be surprised if it didn't work on PS3 and 360 at the very least. It probably still wouldn't be tournament legal since it looks like it allows for programmable macros, though.


This was pretty much my plan as well.

If they're actually using Mayflash parts then you might as well chuck them all out the window anyway once you get the shell because you'll want to gut it for Sanwas, whether or not it works on anything but what's advertised (Windows/OSX/Android). And yeah you'd have to kill off the macros. The whole modding prospect is way too expensive to be worth it for me. :sigh:

flyboi posted:

The real shame is I literally bought a FC30 off amazon like 3 days ago and it's coming in the mail tomorrow. That SFC controller is way sexier.

That being said, you should totally test the FC30 on some USB compatible systems and tell us if it fails miserably or what.

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.
Does anyone know where I would be able to find box copies of the original Kings Quest games? I found KQ5 in the attic at my parents recently and was trying to find the others, is there anywhere I could look apart from ebay that anyone knows of?

Discount Viscount
Jul 9, 2010

FIND THE FISH!

CyberPingu posted:

Does anyone know where I would be able to find box copies of the original Kings Quest games? I found KQ5 in the attic at my parents recently and was trying to find the others, is there anywhere I could look apart from ebay that anyone knows of?

I think I saw one at a thrift store, once. Or maybe that was a jewel case of Space Quest.

It's a crapshoot.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



CyberPingu posted:

Does anyone know where I would be able to find box copies of the original Kings Quest games? I found KQ5 in the attic at my parents recently and was trying to find the others, is there anywhere I could look apart from ebay that anyone knows of?

Most retro stores don't deal in computer games so eBay, Amazon Marketplace, and others like them are essentially your only options.

I actually happen to have a boxed copy of The King's Quest collection (1 through 5 since 6 wasn't released at that time) that I don't mind getting rid of since I have multiple copies of the games. I doubt that's what you have in mind, though.

wash bucket
Feb 21, 2006

Well, I had a bit of a laugh today. My copy of SF2 for the X68K came in today. It came in a very nice and sturdy Genesis style clamshell case which I like.



Oh, and it's also the biggest game case I have ever seen. :stonk:

I don't think the pictures do it justice. This thing is absurd in person.

wash bucket fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Feb 19, 2015

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
5.25" disks. :allears:

That's a nice, and ridiculous, box.

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


I was like, "hey, a cool Mega Drive style case", then I saw a MD case next to it. Jesus, that thing is humongous and amazing.

Console Role Player
Sep 15, 2007

Snooch to the Gooch
Not gonna lie, I wanna put my greasy fingers all over those 5.25" floppies...

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:
If PC games came in clamshells like that all the time in the US, I'd be collection PC games for sure.

Lifespan
Mar 5, 2002

McCracAttack posted:

Oh, and it's also the biggest game case I have ever seen. :stonk:

How big is it compared to a Neo Geo AES case?

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



8-bit Miniboss posted:

If PC games came in clamshells like that all the time in the US, I'd be collection PC games for sure.

It feels like it would be worth it to drive up the prices on x68000 games just to collect boxes like that.

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

agg stop posting
College Slice
Not 100% retro but the FC30 came today


Which means I can play Castle in the Darkness now hell yeah!

Anyways there's no way this would ever work on PS3 or the sort. There are 7 main modes of operation for the FC30 outlined here http://www.fc30.com/eng/fc30-manual.html

However in "joypad" mode the digital pad map to UDLR on your keyboard and then the other buttons map to joystick buttons.

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth

flyboi posted:

Not 100% retro but the FC30 came today

I have no need for this but I want it.
:retrogames:

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

agg stop posting
College Slice

Cloks posted:

I have no need for this but I want it.
:retrogames:

I wanted it for my Surface as wires is really obnoxious while traveling if can be avoided. Also I guess I should've said a little about the pad. It's extremely responsive and very well built which is a refreshing change for most of the chinese garbage that gets pumped out. I'm not sure why but I can't seem to get the thing to pair unless I repair it manually every time. Probably PEBKAC but hey. Also Castle in the Darkness runs like poo poo in Windows 8 :saddowns:

wash bucket
Feb 21, 2006

Lifespan posted:

How big is it compared to a Neo Geo AES case?

Well, it's exactly as wide as an MVS cart. AES carts are about the same size, right? I guess an AES case would have to be wider then.



In other news this version of SF2 has a weird sound hitch: it can only play one sound effect at a time. So if you do a hadouken and it hits before Ryu's done yelling it won't make a sound when it hits. That's actually more than a little distracting. I'm finding lots of minor things like this that poke holes in the idea that the X68000 had "arcade perfect" versions of everything.

Kthulhu5000
Jul 25, 2006

by R. Guyovich

McCracAttack posted:

Well, I had a bit of a laugh today. My copy of SF2 for the X68K came in today. It came in a very nice and sturdy Genesis style clamshell case which I like.



Oh, and it's also the biggest game case I have ever seen. :stonk:

I don't think the pictures do it justice. This thing is absurd in person.

Man, for all the gushing about how the Japanese aesthetic is one of compactness and refinement, this sure seems extravagant and decadent. Though I guess it makes sense if it's including a controller adapter, too.

On the other hand, consider the customer profile for this in the context of the era:

1. Owns a PC.
2. Doesn't just own a PC, but owns an X68000.
3. Wants to own Street Fighter II, a mondo rear end hit game in the early 1990s, which was pretty expensive for the 16-bit consoles when it came out.

So the big box is like, I don't know, 24K gold trim on a luxury vehicle's leather user's manual. It just shouts "Yes, I am yuppie bourgeois scum with pretensions of class and luxury :smug: ".

McCracAttack posted:

Well, it's exactly as wide as an MVS cart. AES carts are about the same size, right? I guess an AES case would have to be wider then.



In other news this version of SF2 has a weird sound hitch: it can only play one sound effect at a time. So if you do a hadouken and it hits before Ryu's done yelling it won't make a sound when it hits. That's actually more than a little distracting. I'm finding lots of minor things like this that poke holes in the idea that the X68000 had "arcade perfect" versions of everything.

It makes sense that Capcom would do arcade development on the X68000, since it shares the same CPU architecture, Yamaha sound chip, and general video capabilities as the CPS1 arcade system. But yeah, I'd doubt "arcade perfect" is going to be the case; the sound stuff you mention may be due to the X68000 lacking the extra Oki OKI6295 ADPCM chip that the CPS1 has. Perhaps Capcom just purged the functions of the game that relied on it, rather than adapting it to the X68000's audio configuration.

wash bucket
Feb 21, 2006

Kthulhu5000 posted:

On the other hand, consider the customer profile for this in the context of the era:

1. Owns a PC.
2. Doesn't just own a PC, but owns an X68000.
3. Wants to own Street Fighter II, a mondo rear end hit game in the early 1990s, which was pretty expensive for the 16-bit consoles when it came out.

So the big box is like, I don't know, 24K gold trim on a luxury vehicle's leather user's manual. It just shouts "Yes, I am yuppie bourgeois scum with pretensions of class and luxury :smug: ".

Now consider all of that in a modern context.

1. Owns a retro PC.
2. Doesn't just own a retro PC, but owns an X68000.
3. Wants to own Street Fighter II, a mondo rear end hit game in the early 1990s, which has far better and easier to find ports on a billion other systems.

I'd say "yuppie bourgeois scum with pretensions of class and luxury" still pretty much covers it. :frogc00l:

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

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College Slice

McCracAttack posted:

Well, it's exactly as wide as an MVS cart. AES carts are about the same size, right? I guess an AES case would have to be wider then.



In other news this version of SF2 has a weird sound hitch: it can only play one sound effect at a time. So if you do a hadouken and it hits before Ryu's done yelling it won't make a sound when it hits. That's actually more than a little distracting. I'm finding lots of minor things like this that poke holes in the idea that the X68000 had "arcade perfect" versions of everything.

IIRC that game has SC-55 support so likely the sound is fucky unless you're using an external source for music to not have dropped effects.

Jadius
May 12, 2001

FISSION MAILED!

flyboi posted:

Anyways there's no way this would ever work on PS3 or the sort.

My NES30's D-Pad works on the PS3 but that's it. No part of it works on the 360.

The build quality on their stuff is definitely above average for typical Chinese aliexpress merchandise but I have to mention that today after weeks of sticking button issues I opened the controller up to find that the B button portion of the rubber membrane inside of the controller has become torn. That does make some sense seeing as how 99% of the usage that the controller's seen has been from my girlfriend playing Super Mario World, but I've only had the controller since August and I've never had that happen with a controller that I've owned in the last 30 years. I'm going to email 8bitdo and see if I can get a replacement part, or maybe 400 replacements if they're halfway affordable. I love this controller that much.

Lifespan
Mar 5, 2002

McCracAttack posted:

Well, it's exactly as wide as an MVS cart. AES carts are about the same size, right? I guess an AES case would have to be wider then.

Wow, that thing is huge. AES carts are a touch smaller than MVS, but they are sideways in the case, so the case is definitely smaller than what you have.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
Yoshinori Ono did the sound on that port, incidentally.

d0s
Jun 28, 2004

McCracAttack posted:

I'm finding lots of minor things like this that poke holes in the idea that the X68000 had "arcade perfect" versions of everything.

It was as close to the arcade as you could get for Capcom stuff for it's time. Compared to newer technology or stuff like the Neo-Geo where it's the exact same hardware, it's really not a great system for arcade ports today. The games that were designed exclusively for the X68K are a lot more fun than the supposedly amazing ports which have aged really badly, imo

e: if you really want to play some good ports on the x68k look into stuff slightly older than CPS. There were shitloads of 80's/early 90's arcade games that got nearly perfect ports, micomsoft did a lot of the work on these and you'd swear you're playing MAME roms. personally I don't really get this use of the system but they're some of the cheaper/easily gettable releases if you want physical copies

Kthulhu5000 posted:

Man, for all the gushing about how the Japanese aesthetic is one of compactness and refinement, this sure seems extravagant and decadent. Though I guess it makes sense if it's including a controller adapter, too.

On the other hand, consider the customer profile for this in the context of the era:

1. Owns a PC.
2. Doesn't just own a PC, but owns an X68000.
3. Wants to own Street Fighter II, a mondo rear end hit game in the early 1990s, which was pretty expensive for the 16-bit consoles when it came out.

So the big box is like, I don't know, 24K gold trim on a luxury vehicle's leather user's manual. It just shouts "Yes, I am yuppie bourgeois scum with pretensions of class and luxury :smug: ".

The Neo-Geo AES also fits into the weird/awesome big tymer game nerd thing Japan had going at the height of the bubble economy. I guess the modern equivalent is $500 BD boxsets of moe anime :smith:

e2: If you want to understand just how absurd/baller the x68k was remember that the "standard" in Japan at the time was the PC98 on the high end and the MSX2 on the low end, both systems more suited for RPG/adventure/porn games and required a whole lot of programming effort to approximate decent action. The x68k was used by game developers in the same way SGI workstations were when 3D was taking over, they did the graphics work on them and then built custom arcade boards to actually run the games.

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liquid courage
Aug 12, 2011


:mrgw:

d34dm34t
Jul 21, 2007

kynikos posted:

Has anyone installed viletim's N64RGB board (RGB on any N64 model) or SMSFM board (FM sound for certain Master System games)? As a heads up, they are back in stock now and I'm considering picking them up. If you've installed either or both in the past, how difficult was the process for you?

I installed the SMSFM board in my Master System last year and it was a breeze. There's a tiny bit of very simple soldering to do and that's it. More consoles should have easy to use internal edge connectors.

wash bucket
Feb 21, 2006

d0s posted:

It was as close to the arcade as you could get for Capcom stuff for it's time. Compared to newer technology or stuff like the Neo-Geo where it's the exact same hardware, it's really not a great system for arcade ports today. The games that were designed exclusively for the X68K are a lot more fun than the supposedly amazing ports which have aged really badly, imo

Yeah, you've warned about that before and the more ports I try the more I agree with you. I don't suppose you could give a top 3 of original games to check out? So far the only non-port on my short list is Mad Stalker.


Pretty sure that image (and character) is a brazen rip-off of an anime.

d0s
Jun 28, 2004

McCracAttack posted:

Yeah, you've warned about that before and the more ports I try the more I agree with you. I don't suppose you could give a top 3 of original games to check out? So far the only non-port on my short list is Mad Stalker.

If I only had to pick 3:

Geograph Seal
Aquales
Nemesis '90 Kai

But there are way more than 3:

Castlevania
Genocide 2
Phalanx
Last Battalion
Étoile Princesse
Zero Rei
Zero Master Striker
Super Star Shooter
Cho Ren Sha 68k
Granada
R+R
Thunder Force 2
Asuka 120%
Die Bahnwelt (Use goon RadicalR's excellent translation: http://radicalr.pestermom.com/game.html#dw )
Sol-Feace
Cyber Core

This is off the top of my head and there are like 10 more good original games I'm forgetting, may edit this post when I get home tonight.

e: Definitely get Mad Stalker, it's awesome

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Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

Tap "A" to drink!!!

McCracAttack posted:

Pretty sure that image (and character) is a brazen rip-off of an anime.
I thought it might be Demon City Shinjuku, but I guess I was so very wrong.

liquid courage
Aug 12, 2011

who was it that posted the breakdown of different n64 replacement control sticks? it was like hundreds of pages ago, but hopefully whoever it was sees this and reminds me because i'm currently looking through the whole thread and it's tedious as gently caress.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
So I realize that this probably makes me a monster for saying so, but can anyone recommend a good X68k emulator? I think after the discussion of how hard it is to get the actual hardware running and how expensive it is, short of going to Japan and snagging one [which I assume is cheaper than getting one domestically?] I think I'm going to just resign myself to emulation.

Still want one of those amazing micomsoft sticks though, man their controllers are nice.

Just found this SFC one on ebay, that's a fine looking controller: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICOMSOFT-S...=item4abc7cbfdb

though I prefer the all black with red/yellow button motif of their others, that's kind of neat.



e. and is there an actual Goodxxxx ROM set for it? Well I guess disk images in this case but whatever


e2. What in the actual gently caress: http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEGA-MEGA-D...=item20f5f4cd43

Code Jockey fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Feb 19, 2015

Nativity In Black
Oct 24, 2012

If you're gonna have roads, you're gonna have roadkill.
That FC arcade stick looks baller. I wish prospects weren't so grim.

wash bucket
Feb 21, 2006

liquid courage posted:

who was it that posted the breakdown of different n64 replacement control sticks? it was like hundreds of pages ago, but hopefully whoever it was sees this and reminds me because i'm currently looking through the whole thread and it's tedious as gently caress.

I don't remember the breakdown but I think the short answer right now is they're all terrible. The ones that try to mimic the N64 style are usually stiff and grindy while the Gamecube style have a wonky sensitivity curve that make it hard to play games like Goldeneye and Smash. I would love someone to prove me wrong though.

Code Jockey posted:

Still want one of those amazing micomsoft sticks though, man their controllers are nice.

They are very nice and a fun collectable but they don't do anything you can't already do with a modern arcade stick and an adapter. What system would you want to use it with?

wash bucket fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Feb 19, 2015

RadicalR
Jan 20, 2008

"Businessmen are the symbol of a free society
---
the symbol of America."

Code Jockey posted:

So I realize that this probably makes me a monster for saying so, but can anyone recommend a good X68k emulator? I think after the discussion of how hard it is to get the actual hardware running and how expensive it is, short of going to Japan and snagging one [which I assume is cheaper than getting one domestically?] I think I'm going to just resign myself to emulation.


XM6 Type G.

You'll need the X68k bios.

Thanks for the shout out on Die Bahnwelt!

Maybe one day, I'll do a LP of it.

Kthulhu5000
Jul 25, 2006

by R. Guyovich

Harlock posted:

I thought it might be Demon City Shinjuku, but I guess I was so very wrong.

Perhaps it's Doomed Megapolis:



And Wikipedia (for all it's worth) states that the series protagonist, Yasunori Katō, was an inspiration for M. Bison. Check out the live-action film image in that link; absolutely M. Bison-esque.

Code Jockey posted:

e. and is there an actual Goodxxxx ROM set for it? Well I guess disk images in this case but whatever

Check out the TOSEC collections on Archive.Org.

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King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

That design is a lot of things, but "intelligent" is not one of them.

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

If it makes you happy, the Micro has such a terrible speaker that it might as well be off. I can barely hear the thing, even at full volume. I still love it, though.

I got the speaker working by taking it apart and bending the contacts back

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kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Kthulhu5000 posted:

And Wikipedia (for all it's worth) states that the series protagonist, Yasunori Katō, was an inspiration for M. Bison. Check out the live-action film image in that link; absolutely M. Bison-esque.


He's also very obviously inspiration for Devil Summoner's Raidou Kuzunoha the XIVth.

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