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Igor Strelkov posted:It sucks that the suns are being punished for trying something unconventional. But it's hard to argue with the numbers and how much better they've been when it's just Dragic running things. It makes sense on paper but I mean, look at it from Dragic's angle "You know the way you've played basketball your entire life and got you to the highest league possible and then to the elite level of said highest league? Here, play this way instead"
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Jack's Flow posted:I know last season was quite some time ago, but Dragic is really loving good, guys. Is he really that good? Last season seems more like an outlier. I mean he's an above average player and all, but I think people are getting carried away. And for any team looking at him as a long term option, he'll be 29 at the start of next season.
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I've always thought Dragic was really underrated and last year was just everyone noticing how good he was.
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Rick posted:I've always thought Dragic was really underrated and last year was just everyone noticing how good he was. One time he buried a stake in the heart of the Spurs which was objectively cool but subjectively awful because I was dating a Suns fan at the time
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According to Chris Boussard the Lakers are making a run at Ty Lawson so I'm just going to go out and buy my purple and gold Lawson jersey right now because that's a sure thing.
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Papercut posted:Not sure how hot I am about giving up a pick for 3 months of Afflalo, even if he would be an insurance policy in case Matthews leaves. Also from several pages back re: Lillard/Lawson comparison I think Ty Lawson is underrated as gently caress and is a lot closer to Lillard than he gets credit for, but that may be because every time I see him he's going up against really iffy defense from Lillard rivetz fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Feb 19, 2015 |
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Ty Lawson is incredibly underrated and I don't know why more teams aren't going after him
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BIZORT posted:Ty Lawson is incredibly underrated and I don't know why more teams aren't going after him Coaches don't know how to relate to millenials
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They probably are, it's just that the Suns FO and Dragic's agent are loving with the media right now. Lawson isn't up for a new contract, hasn't publicly whined or anything, so the Nuggets aren't really up against the wall in the same way.
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Some gms dont like super short pgs like lawson and IT
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2 first rounders is the asking price? drat McDonough!
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Redgrendel2001 posted:2 first rounders is the asking price? drat McDonough! Maybe the Lakers front office can trade the 2017 pick a third time, is Denver's front office really as bad as Woj acts?
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reggie and perkins for lawson who says no WHO SAYS NO
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Rick posted:Maybe the Lakers front office can trade the 2017 pick a third time, is Denver's front office really as bad as Woj acts? If they're not someone at ESPN doesn't like them very much. I don't know if anyone remembers that big ESPN article from a few months ago on the Nuggets; it was the one that claimed that Faried was not well liked and Connelly was incompetent. For some reason ESPN republished it a few days ago with some additional text, but gave it a current published date and only a small disclaimer that it had been previously published.
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Woj is a super petty rear end in a top hat but on the other hand it's pretty clear the current FO is a major downgrade from Ujiri and co. How bad they actually are remains to be seen. Very few teams can pull off a successful rebuild and retain their management and coaching staff so it's tough to grade them on how this whole thing turns out, but looking at their moves on an individual basis might give a clue.
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One thing that stuck out to me in that ESPN article is this ""That gets glossed over. He says crazy s---." http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11865367/how-denver-nuggets-became-nba-biggest-disappointment Does Faried ever say "crazy poo poo" publicly?
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Spacebump posted:Does Faried ever say "crazy poo poo" publicly? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5bMUOL1H9U&t=102s
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Redgrendel2001 posted:Also, Marc Spears reports that Jerome Kersey has died. Ah man. He was one of the first basketball players who was famous to me.
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Spacebump posted:One thing that stuck out to me in that ESPN article is this Yeah. IIRC he's had some weird interviews. He was drunk in one and started talking about why black people are athletic and some other crazy poo poo. But who knows. It was a "league source" and that just could be someone with an axe to grind.
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Lawson is better than Dragic and on a really nice deal. Not sure why Denver would trade him though unless they were blown away by an offer.
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Niwrad posted:Lawson is better than Dragic and on a really nice deal. Not sure why Denver would trade him though unless they were blown away by an offer. Because they'll be in rebuild mode when they ship chandler or afflalo along with lawson. And 3 firsts is a decent way for a quick rebuild on a team that isn't anywhere near a championship.
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Redgrendel2001 posted:Also, Marc Spears reports that Jerome Kersey has died. What the gently caress. My friend died of brain cancer a month ago and Kersey visited him in the hospital before he went. This loving sucks.
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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 10m10 minutes ago Going online now: ESPN sources say Wolves making late push before trade deadline to bring home Wolves legend Kevin Garnett in trade w/Nets Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 8m8 minutes ago ESPN sources say Wolves and Nets have discussed deal to send Thad Young to Brooklyn in exchange for KG ... who of course has no-trade clause So I guess KG could retire on the TWolves. Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 19m19 minutes ago Denver sifting offers on Arron Afflalo tonight, w/ some "late-chargers" thickening plot, sources tell Yahoo. Blazers still strongly in mix.
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Terry Glenn posted:You take Anthony Morrow out of the trade machine RIGHT NOW!!  
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Spacebump posted:Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 10m10 minutes ago I mean it was rumored to be the clippers and blazers. Maybe the clippers offered them Big Baby and since shaw likes rap that made sense to him and he went forward with the deal.
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Spacebump posted:Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 10m10 minutes ago So instead of potentially even a lottery pick from the heat, Garnett gets a nice send-off video....
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I hope the Raptors some how can grab Thomas Robinson. They need another back up big that's not Hayes or Hansborough. Who knows, he may just need time to develop.
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Came here to post about the KG rumor. It'd be kind of awesome to see Minnesota and Boston get in a nostalgia fueled bidding war.
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Lockback posted:So instead of potentially even a lottery pick from the heat, Garnett gets a nice send-off video.... Make one of these for him. http://youtu.be/dkK2JA0JNlU
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thompson posted:I mean it was rumored to be the clippers and blazers. Maybe the clippers offered them Big Baby and since shaw likes rap that made sense to him and he went forward with the deal. hahaha
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Death By The Blues posted:I hope the Raptors some how can grab Thomas Robinson. They need another back up big that's not Hayes or Hansborough. Who knows, he may just need time to develop. I saw someone talking up Thomas Robinson and claimed he was 90% as good as Faried. Not a hint of humor or sarcasm in his tone
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Out of everything out there, Garnett to Minnesota makes the least sense Jerome Kersey made it to the finals of the dunk contest one year against Jordan
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I am not saying he is even remotely good as Faried. However, I cannot watch 6'9 tex rex arms Hansborough try to defend in the post anymore. Last game Seraphin totally had his way with him. Raptors just need some one bigger and a 31 year old 6'6 Chuck Hayes is not helping either.
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Niwrad posted:Lawson is better than Dragic and on a really nice deal. Not sure why Denver would trade him though unless they were blown away by an offer. There's a rumor from Broussard (lol) that says Shaw wants George Hill instead. Yeah. quote:Despite Lawson's production, he and Shaw have had trouble getting on the same page, and sources say Shaw would prefer to trade him for Hill because Hill can play at both a fast and slow tempo and is a strong defender. While an assistant coach in Indiana from 2011 to '13, Shaw mentored Hill and grew close to him. Brian love george.
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Halfling Wizard Bear posted:There's a rumor from Broussard (lol) that says Shaw wants George Hill instead. Yeah. It is important to remember that other than their three most important players (one of whom is now in Charlotte), the Pacers by and large have drafted like poo poo for pretty much the last decade E: Not that the Pacers were the only team that missed out on Lawson, but still
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Rest in Peace, Jerome Kersey.
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