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I feel like we've talked about this a zillion times, but what is the point of nest. I think my thermostat at my house had a feature where you could program in schedules. I never used it because it was too complicated and also who cares, I just wanna have it around ~70 all the time. Is it that useful to have a thermostat "learn" your schedule? What about people who have pets and don't wanna worry about their thermostat bugging out and cranking the heat or something, or neglecting to run the AC while they're gone? A buggy thermostat with an admittedly nicer UI than the Honeywell one I had, worth 3.2 billion dollars.
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ADINSX posted:I feel like we've talked about this a zillion times, but what is the point of nest. I think my thermostat at my house had a feature where you could program in schedules. I never used it because it was too complicated and also who cares, I just wanna have it around ~70 all the time. it's two ideas: 1. (in the long run) i won't even have to think about the thermostat, it'll do it for me! 2. if i'm away and it's cold/hot/etc i can remotely change the temperature on my phone
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computer parts posted:it's two ideas: 2 means you're thinking about 1 I set my thermostat around 70 at my house and never thought about it. If I'm spending too much money on electricity, I'd rather invest in better insulation vs a fancy thermostat. Plus a significant number of American homes are gonna have someone or something at the house during most of the day (stay at home parents with kids, older people, animals, etc). But its not like silicon valley making products for rich young white people who live alone, like gadgets and go on impromptu vacations is something shocking or even interesting.
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FCKGW posted:I was browsing the reddit personal finance subreddit because there are some colossal idiots there and the sheer number of people who are seeking advice on leasing a car for "their business" who, when pressed, turn out to be the uber drivers is depressing that's my wife's favorite website
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Shifty Pony posted:Delaware gets you the twofer of cheap as poo poo income tax and a court system which will basically never rule against management in a dispute between equity holders and management. ftw
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ADINSX posted:I feel like we've talked about this a zillion times, but what is the point of nest. tony fadell wanted to turn on the heat in his cabin from his iphone before he got there disrupting the thermostat market
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Wulfolme posted:is shaggar a theme account or is he serious both
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Wulfolme posted:is shaggar a theme account or is he serious yes
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"bluhh bluhh bluhhh let me increase my costs for no reason" - some stupid fucker not incorporated in delaware
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ADINSX posted:2 means you're thinking about 1 do you live in california or something? there's a lot of places where you can save a lot of money by not just leaving it at 70 and forgetting about it. my mom spends like 15-20% of her income on heating oil and she already has good insulation. she's not gonna just leave it at 70 and forget about it in the winter
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Citizen Tayne posted:that's my wife's favorite website Financing a car via Lyft / Uber (self.personalfinance) submitted 28 days ago by logdogday Hello. Sorry for the rambling post. I'm entering my 4th year as a freelance photographer/videographer. The first two years sucked. I lost about $5,000/year, couldn't pay my taxes, and basically accumulated 10k in credit card debt just to live. Third year I got bigger clients, and did much better. I paid off all my credit card debt, my back taxes, and also bought a new camera and laptop, which I needed. I still haven't paid this year's taxes, which will take some work, but I still feel happy getting out of credit card debt. My nerves were completely fried. I don't think I could've handled a third year going on like that; worried about every $ and feeling helpless. Anyway, I don't own a car, and actually spend over $4,000/year on rentals. It's absurd. I'd sometimes make $250/day, and spend 20% of the earnings just on transportation. I never had enough to afford a car, so I rented. Living month to month is tough like that. This year, I feel like I really need to buy a car, because if I had a car I could go after more small jobs, go shoot outdoors when I want, etc. I can't really predict my income, but my best clients of 2014 paid 3x what my best clients paid in 2013. When clients approach me I'm not afraid to tell them a good figure the way I used to be. Anyway, I'm thinking of a 2015 Prius, the cheapest model. If I can't make payments, my plan is to be a driver for Uber/Lyft, and so the MPG rating will boost my profits. I live in SF Bay Area, where drivers supposedly make good money if they're smart about it. I saw a 2011 model that cost 80% as much as a brand new car, which is why I'm not psyched to go used on a car that retains it's value so well. I know some of you will advise to get an old junky thing just to get around, but I can't use that for Uber, and the truth is that high dollar clients feel better if the guy they hired projects a degree of success. Anyway, any thoughts before I take the plunge? If I can't make payments, my plan is to be a driver for Uber/Lyft, can't make payments ... be a driver for Uber/Lyft 
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ADINSX posted:I feel like we've talked about this a zillion times, but what is the point of nest. I think my thermostat at my house had a feature where you could program in schedules. I never used it because it was too complicated and also who cares, I just wanna have it around ~70 all the time. technology for the sake of technology, luxury for the sake of luxury it appeals to the nerds who dream of someday having to cj their house, as well as the new money who will blow any amount on tiny luxuries, especially if they can pull them up on a phone and show the girl they're chatting up at the bar how they have that fancy expensive minor comfort in their bedroom
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FCKGW posted:I live in SF Bay Area, where drivers supposedly make good money if they're smart about it.[/b] this guy sounds like the target demographic for ads in comic books for xray vision and newspaper delivery routes
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i mean yeah nobody really needs a nest or whatever but if you don't even recognize the value of changing the temperature in your home to begin with then you're either living in santa barbara or you're an idiot
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the only smart house thing that i think would would be useful is like a remote garage door monitor. so like if you get to work and are all oh crap did i leave that open? u just open up your WebSite and check.
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if you really want to understand "why" then just go to nest.com. literally the first claim they make about the product is it will save you money. that's "why". i dont know how well the product delivers on that claim, but i can easily believe there's a couple hundred dollars per year of easy energy savings sitting there in the average american home
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fart simpson posted:i mean yeah nobody really needs a nest or whatever but if you don't even recognize the value of changing the temperature in your home to begin with then you're either living in santa barbara or you're an idiot my grandmother in houston was given a nest by the power company for free and promised a flat monthly discount on utilities if she installed it it sat on her countertop for a month or so until i visited and installed it for her she ended up getting a handyman to rip it out after a few weeks b/c she hated it so much
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FCKGW posted:Financing a car via Lyft / Uber (self.personalfinance) lol
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i got my parents who live in south florida a nest for christmas a couple years ago, and they really like it. my dad says their energy costs were down about 10% the first year (which realistically means it would have paid for itself if they got it for themselves). mom's a nurse and dad's a teacher, so their schedules are pretty varied, and it figured them out just fine.
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fart simpson posted:if you really want to understand "why" then just go to nest.com. literally the first claim they make about the product is it will save you money. that's "why". i dont know how well the product delivers on that claim, but i can easily believe there's a couple hundred dollars per year of easy energy savings sitting there in the average american home i don't think having the dispute is that having a programmable thermostat saves you money. i think the issue is spending $250 vs $25 programmable thermostat. my 5-1-1 thermostat works just fine and doesn't need stupid motion sensors to save me money
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FCKGW posted:i don't think having the dispute is that having a programmable thermostat saves you money. no actually the dispute was with a guy that doesn't recognize the value in changing the temperature away from 70 degrees ever ADINSX posted:I set my thermostat around 70 at my house and never thought about it. If I'm spending too much money on electricity, I'd rather invest in better insulation vs a fancy thermostat.
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fart simpson posted:no actually the dispute was with a guy that doesn't recognize the value in changing the temperature away from 70 degrees ever so then why would a nest be any better then just getting a programmable thermostat. mine has 4 times throughout the day you can change the temps, and seperate sat/sun schedules. and it costs $25 setting at 70 all day is not programmable. just get a programmable thermostat, it doesn't have to be a nest.
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FCKGW posted:so then why would a nest be any better then just getting a programmable thermostat. mine has 4 times throughout the day you can change the temps, and seperate sat/sun schedules. and it costs $25 i didn't ever say a nest was better. i said the reason "why" you'd consider getting one is to save money, according to nest. i've never even seen one irl, i'm just saying that of course that guy won't understand the nest if he doesn't even understand the concept of ever changing the temperature of his home
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i spend $600 a month on electricity in the summer i get pretty fired up about thermostats
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but if you want to go down that line of thought, i think theoretically a "smart" theromastat could be better than a simple programmable one in the sense that it could dynamically adapt to a changing schedule. like if you normally come home from work at 7 you can use a normal programmable thermostat to account for that but if you sometimes work late and get home at 10 instead then a fancy smart home thermostat could sense that you're still at work so don't bother turning on the heat yet.
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slogsdon posted:yeah i live near a train station and its p nice for work and school since those are both by a train station but if i want to go anywhere not near the train line it quickly goes to poo poo I live pretty near the red line and it's good for going downtown or the airport but my office is in norcross and thus completely outside of Marta getting the shuttle my company is organizing would probably triple my commute time and still require driving nearly as far basically Marta is an ok idea but it needs like way more lines and every time a penny tax comes up they vote it down
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fart simpson posted:but if you want to go down that line of thought, i think theoretically a "smart" theromastat could be better than a simple programmable one in the sense that it could dynamically adapt to a changing schedule. like if you normally come home from work at 7 you can use a normal programmable thermostat to account for that but if you sometimes work late and get home at 10 instead then a fancy smart home thermostat could sense that you're still at work so don't bother turning on the heat yet. i guess the problem with me is that i have a wife and kids home all day so there's no adjusting, it's just on a set schedule because someone is always home. hence the statement that things like the nest are for single silicon valley types who live alone.
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my mom has a nest and it saves her money instead of programming a schedule you let the little proximity sensor do it dynamically it's not perfect, but it works
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FCKGW posted:i guess the problem with me is that i have a wife and kids home all day so there's no adjusting, it's just on a set schedule because someone is always home. or the parents of yosposters apparently
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we have Nest thermostats in my office, which is kept at the same temperature almost constantly because it's in the middle of Florida i think the only reason they're there is to look "cool"
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people will spend a grand on fancy knobs and drawer pulls for their kitchen cabinets, $250 for a thermostat that isn't a beige molded plastic box isn't unreasonable at all, even if it wasn't "smart" they'd probably still sell a lot of them
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qirex posted:people will spend a grand on fancy knobs and drawer pulls for their kitchen cabinets, $250 for a thermostat that isn't a beige molded plastic box isn't unreasonable at all, even if it wasn't "smart" they'd probably still sell a lot of them I've got a fancy knob for you to pull
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Citizen Tayne posted:I've got a fancy knob for you to pull is it as short as the rest of you
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Forums Terrorist posted:is it as short as the rest of you 
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Forums Terrorist posted:is it as short as the rest of you nice classism.
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FCKGW posted:i don't think having the dispute is that having a programmable thermostat saves you money. actually there is a pretty large dispute about it. most field studies show negligible savings at best and sometimes even increased energy use (I'm saving so much I can set the temp lower/higher while I'm home!).
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