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rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


Khaba posted:

I love comments like this about the EU LCS. It's no longer very different from NA at all, yet this kind of thinking persists.

What changed in EU to make it less boring?

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Mar 22, 2003

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Draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaven

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Khaba posted:

I love comments like this about the EU LCS. It's no longer very different from NA at all, yet this kind of thinking persists.

I've always liked EU LCS more than NA LCS for as long as the two have existed. I can't explain why really.

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


If you prefer more methodical play I am sure you would like EU more than NA. It feels like the difference between OGN and LPL to me.

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Mar 22, 2003

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Giving support the red buff, next level

Aumanor
Nov 9, 2012
Uuuuuugh, this comp from Roccat, what the gently caress were they thinking:cripes:?

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


Aumanor posted:

Uuuuuugh, this comp from Roccat, what the gently caress were they thinking?

Corki and Lissandra have pretty good wave clear to make up for the mid Ez's weakness, and they have a decent amount of AP with Liss and Nidalee.

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.
Fnatic are the most fun team to watch in LCS, I don't know why you wouldn't root for them. They even make Elements games watchable.

I still have no idea how a team of LCS veterans have no loving idea how to play the game before it hits 50 minutes. Copenhagen Wolves are the same, they do fuckall until very late game when everyone has 6 items. Neither team makes enough mistakes to close on them, but neither team ever postures while they're ahead until they can just one-shot a carry.

Khaba
Oct 29, 2011

Freaksaus posted:

The biggest difference between the EU and NA LCS for me has always been the personalities. I feel like I know a lot more of the NA player personalities and they seem more active in streaming/social media.

And that's a perfectly valid opinion to have. It just gets really wearisome for those of us who do enjoy watching the EU LCS to have people every week going "OMG EU LCS SO BORING AMIRITE GUYS!?!"

Badfinger
Dec 16, 2004

Timeouts?!

We'll take care of that.
OG Fnatic was fun to watch because Deathbrush. CLG EU was fun to watch because Froggen gonna frog, and Scumbag Krepo. M5 was awesome because they appeared and hosed up everyone and gave everyone the finger and the deathstare. SK was fun to root against because of Ocelote.

EU is currently full of unknowns, boring/bad teams, or rear end in a top hat racists. When the racists are the ones who have entertaining games and win, it makes it very difficult for me to invest in the region.


e: Also Joe and Deman are gone, duh.

Badfinger fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Feb 19, 2015

Asema
Oct 2, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Khaba posted:

And that's a perfectly valid opinion to have. It just gets really wearisome for those of us who do enjoy watching the EU LCS to have people every week going "OMG EU LCS SO BORING AMIRITE GUYS!?!"

I mean wheres the lie

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
Why do people who play against CW ban Draven or Kalista but never both? Freeze just always picks the other one and does well. I mean if you are going to go half in on ADC bans you might as well go all-in. Draven just cleaned up in the last fight and he's probably going to go monstrous now.

Woolite is reminding CW why they let Roccat buy him.

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Mar 22, 2003

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Freeze is sooo much better than Woolite.

Keven. Just. Keven
May 25, 2010

MY GOD. THE WILL... THE FIGHTING SPIRIT... JUST WHEN YOU THINK IT'S OVER, TSM COMES BACK STRONGER THAN EVER.

Khaba posted:

And that's a perfectly valid opinion to have. It just gets really wearisome for those of us who do enjoy watching the EU LCS to have people every week going "OMG EU LCS SO BORING AMIRITE GUYS!?!"

Ok but you didn't say you were insanely mad about being owned you said eu lcs was good. So I mean.

Lovechop
Feb 1, 2005

cheers mate
i really liked vander last season but he is going full nooblord lately

PlaceholderPigeon
Dec 31, 2012
At this point NA games are just as likely to be snoozefests as EU ones (with stuff like DIG disengage comps), and with the addition of the new Fnatic roster and teams like UOL and SK there are some interesting teams to follow too.

Lovechop
Feb 1, 2005

cheers mate
did Jarvan just eq while rooted....

Aumanor
Nov 9, 2012

Lovechop posted:

i really liked vander last season but he is going full nooblord lately

He had some good games last season, but honestly? I remember him more as the guy who misses Thresh hooks at the most important moments.

Khaba
Oct 29, 2011

Keven. Just. Keven posted:

Ok but you didn't say you were insanely mad about being owned you said eu lcs was good. So I mean.

What? Wait, am I meant to be insanely mad right now?

Anyways, sorry for bringing it up, I should know better.

Comrade Question
Mar 30, 2011

"I'd say it's nothing personal, but corporations are people, too."

Badfinger posted:

EU is currently full of unknowns, boring/bad teams, or rear end in a top hat racists. When the racists are the ones who have entertaining games and win, it makes it very difficult for me to invest in the region.

Is there some team of national socialists that I am not aware of?

SC Bracer
Aug 7, 2012

DEMAGLIO!
I think it's depressing that one of the most fun teams in EU are the racist ragelords. All in on Fnatic I guess.

Lovechop
Feb 1, 2005

cheers mate
Insanely sick liss ult

Bankerfox
Oct 11, 2012
Why do pro teams keep running double AD comps without any front line for peel? And then they insist on trying to team fight early. I don't get it.

Asema
Oct 2, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Comrade Question posted:

Is there some team of national socialists that I am not aware of?

days before last blackface defense: 2

hwordhan
Sep 27, 2012

Ask me about the taste of a video game character's breast milk!

Comrade Question posted:

Is there some team of national socialists that I am not aware of?

Svenskeren is an idiot and racist. Forgiven is an rear end in a top hat which is the equivalent to a racist. nrated is german so racist by default. The midlaner replaced Jesiz so he's a racist as well. And everybody knows what giant racist assholes werewolves are.

Aumanor
Nov 9, 2012
Aaand, this is why I hate Roccat's comp. First, it only works if a team manages to get ahead in the match, and now they have no comeback mechanism. Second, I utterly hate comps with built-in expiration date, and with double adcs and no frontline, the longer this game takes, the less able Roc is to fight.

Asema
Oct 2, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Does Soren ever hit anything

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Lovechop posted:

did Jarvan just eq while rooted....

Only displacements interrupt his combo once it's begun.

Man why is the one game I can watch before class boring. #eulcsisgarbage

quote:

Is there some team of national socialists that I am not aware of?

Sven of SK is a giant racist piece of poo poo and Forgiven has a reputation of being a jerk but has not been known to be racist to my knowledge. The rest of the team is fine as far as we know unless something happened I didn't hear about.

I can't find that .gif of qtpie saying EU LCS is garbage superimposed over an American flag but this game is basically that.

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy
fnc over sk, uol over h2k

nothing else matters

Aumanor
Nov 9, 2012
Uuugh, this just hurts to watch. I think I'll just give up on Roc's games and hope that at some point some better team picks Jankos and maybe Overpow up, there's nothing else worth salvaging in this garbage team. Their coaching staff in particular is terrible judging from their pick/ban phases.

Bankerfox
Oct 11, 2012
CW really happy their old buddy Woolite is helping them out.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
I still insist Roccat's entire issue is/was dumping their two existing players for Nukeduck and Woolite.

I would absolutely take Celavar and Xaxus, with Overpow back to Mid, over what they have this season.

This team they have no has absolutely no synergy whatsoever and the guys they picked up don't dominate their lanes enough to make up for it.

Jenny Angel
Oct 24, 2010

Out of Control
Hard to Regulate
Anything Goes!
Lipstick Apathy
I am soooo happy that I dumped Woolite for Freeze in my fantasy league.

Lovechop
Feb 1, 2005

cheers mate
Nuke is a really sick player he just seems to have massive lan issues going on or something.. everyone says he just bodies people in scrims and in soloq but he plays so scared on stage

Roccat why are you so poo poo, pls

Transient People
Dec 22, 2011

"When a man thinketh on anything whatsoever, his next thought after is not altogether so casual as it seems to be. Not every thought to every thought succeeds indifferently."
- Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan
'Team Racist Assholes' is a meme I went with this season and it's spread to the rest of the thread. SK isn't really assholey or racist anymore. And EU is just uninteresting because its bad teams are much worse than NA's and also excruciatingly slow and hesitant.

Luna Was Here
Mar 21, 2013

Lipstick Apathy
also i'll link that eu is garbo gif when i get home

requesting flameingback to add a gifs section to the op so we can have these at the ready at any given time

Aumanor
Nov 9, 2012

Libertine posted:

I still insist Roccat's entire issue is/was dumping their two existing players for Nukeduck and Woolite.

I would absolutely take Celavar and Xaxus, with Overpow back to Mid, over what they have this season.

This team they have no has absolutely no synergy whatsoever and the guys they picked up don't dominate their lanes enough to make up for it.

Another problem IMHO is that they kept Vander, the one player that they absolutely should have replaced.

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Aumanor posted:

Another problem IMHO is that they kept Vander, the one player that they absolutely should have replaced.

I disagree. I think Vander is probably the best Thresh player in Europe (even now), and they should just keep him on that forever until it gets banned against them. Playing anything else on him just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. It's like Tusin on IM in Korea. Just put the man on Thresh.

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


Is this still 5.2? Teams giving up Ahri on 5.2 is so insane but it keeps happening. Her win percentage has to be above 70%.

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Aumanor
Nov 9, 2012

Libertine posted:

I disagree. I think Vander is probably the best Thresh player in Europe (even now), and they should just keep him on that forever until it gets banned against them. Playing anything else on him just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. It's like Tusin on IM in Korea. Just put the man on Thresh.

I might be wrong, but I'm under impression that if someone made a compilation of critical hooks Vander missed and completely hosed his team, it would be much longer than one of ones he hit to turn the tide. But hell, might be that I just wasn't watching LCS carefully enough last season.

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