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Star Wars: The Phantom Menace Review (Part 1 of 7) RedLetterMedia Views: 5,760,518 Looks like the schtick worked to me.
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Feb 19, 2015 20:18
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Someone please just post that gif where Rich Evans uses his wizard powers to unflip a table.
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Feb 19, 2015 20:19
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I'm kind of surprised there doesn't seem to be any skit-free edit available; I've seen a lot of people talking about it over the years. I kind of like the really brief dark humor throwaway lines, but the skits just get tedious when I'm really there for the criticism.
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Feb 19, 2015 20:20
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I still giggle at when Ryan North shat on the Plinkett reviews a while back and folk on a previous IC thread tried to pin the criticism as a "nobody on tumblr".
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Feb 19, 2015 20:26
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Jimbot posted:The guy just said he has highly critical opinions of the Star Wars films and his shtick is that he's a piece of garbage human. it's why people repeat the criticisms and not "but Plinkett cummed into his TV so hard it was destroyed!" when the movies are discussed. Or why they said check out the Plinkett reviews for a well thought-out opinion on the films but you might want to skip the sketches. While they try to pass 'I don't like things that are different' as a running joke, it's painfully obvious that it's also the truth. There's a section where they rattle off a list of directors who are 'permitted' to not follow the rules they just made up for movies, thus making George Lucas bad because he's not on the list. The films are judged by how they should have been instead of how they are. If all films really were supposed to naturally have one central protagonist who gets taught how things work, then yeah the movie is bad. But that's not a methodology that works with films. Imagine if we thought about plays like that. Romeo and Juliet just got shat right out of the human canon, no-one is told how the world works, and instead a narrator tells the audience what's happening! What bullshit! Who's the protagonist of Lord of the Rings? The Frodo guy who's not in ninety percent of the battles? No wait, I just checked and it turns out Tolkien's on the list of authors allowed to defy my bullshit rules and do something different. This is coming from someone who thinks the plinkett reviews and RLM in general are great, by the way. They're funny and it's fascinating seeing people talk about movies and actually take the time to properly explain themselves, it's a real shame no-one bothers to do much else other than quote them in the Star Wars thread. Developing an opinion is cool. Opinions are like assholes, if you don't flex them and educate yourself about how they work and properly regulate what comes out of them, they smell like poo poo and you get butt problems.
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Feb 19, 2015 20:26
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His old man asides are generally funny but so many of the skits are way too long.
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Feb 19, 2015 20:28
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It's funny how so many people who consume RLM media don't 'get' RLM media. Plinkett is kind of the perfect combination of the cynical sides of both Mike and Jay, the things they find awful and disgusting. Watching the stuff Jay has made on his own really shows how much of the Plinkett character comes from him, the things he's afraid of and finds disgusting. All of it they kind of pile onto him to make as revolting a character as possible, which is entirely the point.
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Feb 19, 2015 20:30
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the trouble with plinkett is the same trouble as all satire: you have to be exceptionally good at parody, tone, acting, and raw writing talent to make that kind of parody "work" for everyone. Stephen Colbert is that good; the RLM guys are not.
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Feb 19, 2015 20:35
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Ehhhh it's probably a little unfair to compare a professional satirist on cable TV with a huge staff of writers to a couple of greasy amateurs on youtube.
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Feb 19, 2015 20:41
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DoctorWhat posted:the trouble with plinkett is the same trouble as all satire: Yup. You've got it totally right. Look at these hack frauds, editing, acting, building sets, doing effects, and producing content on a shoestring budget. How dare they hope to attain the comedy heights of an international star with all of a channel's weight thrown behind him. They just don't have the talent, they should give up.
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Feb 19, 2015 20:43
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ACES Sephiroth expressed the exact same point as you without coming off as a hyperbolic whiny baby.
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Feb 19, 2015 20:45
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RLM isn't lacking in general talent or quality, far from it. But it takes a very specific, well-honed Knack for that sort of thing. I don't have it and they don't have it.
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Feb 19, 2015 20:45
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Plinkett and RLM in general are good and funny and talented handsome people with great insights into the art of making movies
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Feb 19, 2015 20:52
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e X posted:The thing is, they added the whole shtick specifically because they thought nobody would want to listen to them bitching about Star Wars for over an hour without some gimmick. That makes me sad. Plinkett's review is one of the best dissections of The Phantom Menace I've ever seen, and that's in spite of the dreary tedium of Plinkett's character. Frankly Plinkett's character is also why it is the only Red Letter Media video I've ever watched. I was under the impression Plinkett was more widespread and that immediately convinced me not to look at them any further.
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Feb 19, 2015 20:53
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Sounds like we got some jealous critics in this thread. Youre just mad you dont 10,000 dollars a month on Patreon.
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Feb 19, 2015 20:56
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Rebochan posted:Someone please just post that gif where Rich Evans uses his wizard powers to unflip a table. Fine, I'll do it. 
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Feb 19, 2015 20:58
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Omnicrom posted:That makes me sad. Plinkett's review is one of the best dissections of The Phantom Menace I've ever seen, and that's in spite of the dreary tedium of Plinkett's character. Frankly Plinkett's character is also why it is the only Red Letter Media video I've ever watched. I was under the impression Plinkett was more widespread and that immediately convinced me not to look at them any further. Yeah, agreed. Like others here I would really like to rewatch the RLM SW prequel reviews with the skits edited out. I'm sure they must be out there somewhere. Hbomberguy, no we haven't forgotten your previous derail over the SW prequels. The second part of the Spoony movie review was...ok...I guess. The less time he spends on camera the better I like his pieces.
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Feb 19, 2015 21:00
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PresidentBeard posted:ACES Sephiroth expressed the exact same point as you without coming off as a hyperbolic whiny baby. I responded in the exact manner that post deserved, respond in kind so to speak. RLM, as a group, has far more talent than Colbert has as an individual, I don't even see how this is an argument that can be had. Their level of dedication to their films, side projects, and art is what more people getting into filmmaking should try to emulate. Each person has their own style, and it shows through, even when working collectively individual facets of each person stand out. Comparing them to a huge, polished television show and calling them worse than the face of it is a huge insult.
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Feb 19, 2015 21:00
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JB50 posted:Sounds like we got some jealous critics in this thread. Youre just mad you dont 10,000 dollars a month on Patreon.
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Feb 19, 2015 21:06
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Hbomberguy posted:Critics are, famously, motivated by money. A lot of them are, yes.
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Feb 19, 2015 21:12
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Then a lot of film critics are really stupid. No surprises there! Enjoy being poor! I am a film critic and write for a film website
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Feb 19, 2015 21:15
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Omnicrom posted:I think you'd get a similar improvement if you cut all the skits out of current era Nostalgia Critic as well. The Jaden Smith skit at the beginning of the After Earth video retroactively justified every other awful boring slog of skit that came before it.
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Feb 19, 2015 21:17
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Nostalgia Critic reviews are extremely surface-level and forced, though. RLM really shows him up as the amateur he is.
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Feb 19, 2015 21:33
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"RLM gets a lotta dosh from their fans" is a bit of a poo poo point when I can just go "Felix Arvid Ulf Kjellberg makes around 2-3 million a year from doing stuff on youtube" and "Guy Fieri Anything". Please note that I'm not saying that RLM is terrible at what they do. Kunster fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Feb 19, 2015 |
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Feb 19, 2015 21:40
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My favourite NC thing was when he complained that too much of Waterworld involved doing stuff, and things happening to things. Waterworld has problems (I know, what a surprise!) but its popcultural status as the worst thing ever seems to have tricked people into claiming creative and thematically-relevant set and prop design is bad. It would be like complaining Heaven's Gate is bad because it's got too many beautifully-shot period-appropriate sets. Or Fargo is bad because so much of it takes place in the snow holy poo poo I hope they fired someone.
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Feb 19, 2015 21:40
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I am flipping a coin between the Lorax rant to the strawman executives about sticking to artistic expression or the segment on Airborne where he looks at the main character surfing and berates him for surfing and missing surfing days after he moves to an inland snowy town. I mean the latter's fun, but the earlier one just gets more and more hosed up if you look at what he did months before that.
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Feb 19, 2015 22:25
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Just discovered this guy doing an in depth review of the worst game of all time. The F.A.T.A.L. RPG http://youtu.be/_kesjVURL1U
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Feb 19, 2015 22:43
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Hbomberguy posted:While they try to pass 'I don't like things that are different' as a running joke, it's painfully obvious that it's also the truth. Much as a like the RLM guys, that sequence where they have people fail to describe characters is pure bullshit.
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Feb 19, 2015 23:30
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Would have made a better case had they not been friends or people who worked on the video. The idea is the same, though. Those characters don't really leave an impression.
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Feb 19, 2015 23:47
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People have ranted inarticulately about the characters for fifteen years. Latest criticism: They don't leave an impression!
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Feb 20, 2015 00:02
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JB50 posted:Star Wars: The Phantom Menace Review (Part 1 of 7) JB50 posted:Sounds like we got some jealous critics in this thread. Youre just mad you dont 10,000 dollars a month on Patreon. ACES CURE PLANES posted:Yup. You've got it totally right. Look at these hack frauds, editing, acting, building sets, doing effects, and producing content on a shoestring budget. How dare they hope to attain the comedy heights of an international star with all of a channel's weight thrown behind him. You care.
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Feb 20, 2015 00:03
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Kunster posted:"RLM gets a lotta dosh from their fans" is a bit of a poo poo point when I can just go "Felix Arvid Ulf Kjellberg makes around 2-3 million a year from doing stuff on youtube" and "Guy Fieri Anything". I'd argue that creating a gimmick that works as successfully as them does show real talent. Like, you've really got to think crazy like a fox to come up with Guy Fieri's gimmick and be sure that that's where the money is. It's Kaufmanesque.
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Feb 20, 2015 00:12
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So, here's SuperBunnyHop's new videos this week: Alien's influence on gaming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYtQmayyDLA REmake vs REmake remake vs RE1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df_ET25Z-EQ I now want to give Alien: Isolation and REmake a try at some point.
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Feb 20, 2015 00:22
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Hbomberguy posted:People have ranted inarticulately about the characters for fifteen years. Latest criticism: They don't leave an impression! At this point I feel brevity is the way to go. It's a wonderful word. Unfortunately it's one a lot of pseudo-intellectuals prone self-indulgent masturbatory analysis seem to forget or ignore.
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Feb 20, 2015 00:40
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Jimbot posted:At this point I feel brevity is the way to go. It's a wonderful word. Unfortunately it's one a lot of pseudo-intellectuals prone self-indulgent masturbatory analysis seem to forget or ignore. Why does film analysis make you think about masturbating? Also, a little picky but isn't all masturbation self-indulgent?
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Feb 20, 2015 00:52
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Here, allow me to unsuccessfully rerail the thread:
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Feb 20, 2015 00:52
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And speaking of Spoony:quote:If you're having trouble spotting what the camera's focused on at the very end of the review, try looking there in an earlier scene. It's one of two things. Here's a zoomed screencap from the end of the review:  It's either: 1) The circled thing. It wasn't present in the other Dr. Insano scene. Looks like a game cartridge, but I don't recognize which one 2) The arrow-pointed-at thing. It was present the entire review. Again, I don't recognize the logo. Any thoughts?
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Feb 20, 2015 00:59
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lornekates posted:1) The circled thing. It wasn't present in the other Dr. Insano scene. Looks like a game cartridge, but I don't recognize which one The grey one on the right is almost definitely Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII; 
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Feb 20, 2015 01:04
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lornekates posted:And speaking of Spoony: The arrow thing looks like The Ultimate Warrior's logo (which I only recognize because of that horrible comic Linkara reviewed).
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Feb 20, 2015 01:40
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It got lost in the derail, so here it is again: Todd reviews Jealous by Nick Jonas http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/jealous-by-nick-jonas-7161267
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