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Cnut the Great posted:Norm MacDonald is funny no matter what he does. When he genuinely fucks up a joke, that somehow becomes the joke. I don't know how to explain it. It just has something to do with his personality. Maybe you have to be on a certain wavelength. Norm MacDonald is essentially the Zen Buddhism of comedy.
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Data Graham, all I can say that any opinions on Bob's acting and improv and comedy chops without having seen him on Mr. Show are missing his absolute best work. Mr. Show is one of the best most influential skit shows of all time. Bob definitely is not as good of an actor as David Cross and certainly likes playing a doofus but I don't think he ever expected to get caught up in dramatic acting and it seems that he can pull it off. I'll also say that while David is a better actor with broader range of characters, Bob is most commended for his writing and his production and for being responsible for some careers of people who are pretty well known now. Bob was a writer on Conan, early Simpsons, SNL when it was funny, etc. His credentials are giant when you factor in writing and production. I won't argue too hard that he pretty much likes to play that dumb character but you should watch Mr. Show because it's a lot of people's "funniest comedy show I've ever seen," including mine.
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Feb 19, 2015 18:30
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JT Jag posted:I always assumed that Tuco got his poo poo from Gus until Walt showed up and started making something better but I don't know if this is ever confirmed anywhere. I always thought that Tuco got at least a part of his meth from Krazy-8, who in turn were supplied by Emilio.
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Feb 19, 2015 18:36
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This is a Bob stand up from like 20-25 years ago and it's loving hilarious. The whole thing is a character bit and yeah he likes to play dumb guys but this is amazing to me. http://youtu.be/JUtKPlxJ4E0
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Feb 19, 2015 18:37
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And if you stand corrected on Norm because he wrote Celebrity Jeopardy, Bob conceived and wrote Chris Farley in "the van down by the river" sketches. And discovering Tim and Eric unleashed an entire brand of alternative comedy which has taken over the comedy game in general and Bob is to thank for that. Mr. Show also broke Jack Black, Sarah Silverman, Paul F. Tompkins, Tom Kenny, among others. Brodeurs Nanny fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Feb 19, 2015 |
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Feb 19, 2015 18:39
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Hey dudes, this show is only 4 episodes in and it's already the best thing on TV.
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Feb 19, 2015 19:00
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Brodeurs Nanny posted:And if you stand corrected on Norm because he wrote Celebrity Jeopardy, Bob conceived and wrote Chris Farley in "the van down by the river" sketches. And discovering Tim and Eric unleashed an entire brand of alternative comedy which has taken over the comedy game in general and Bob is to thank for that. I've always avoided Tim & Eric because the bits I saw seemed like the worst sort of lolrandom Adult Swim monkeycheese and that never interested me. I had no idea Odenkirk was involved so maybe now I'll give it another chance. I really liked Mr. Show.
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Feb 19, 2015 19:18
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Tim & Eric is not random. It's extremely deliberate.
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Feb 19, 2015 19:36
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It's also extremely terrible. I like Odenkirk's skit based comedy more. Mr. Show Uber Alles. Also, Birthday Boys, but that's been cancelled.
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a cop posted:Tim & Eric is not random. It's extremely deliberate. This. It's not random at all, everything is extremely pre-ordained and precise. The cocnept of Tim and Eric is basically a perverse parody of 1980's public access. It's just a nightmarish version of it where it is their world and their reality. It takes the concept of television and fame and product and brings it so far into darkness.
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Feb 19, 2015 19:41
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This is a pretty awesome skit from T and E: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8u4CEBVq7s
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Brodeurs Nanny posted:Data Graham, all I can say that any opinions on Bob's acting and improv and comedy chops without having seen him on Mr. Show are missing his absolute best work. Mr. Show is one of the best most influential skit shows of all time. Bob definitely is not as good of an actor as David Cross and certainly likes playing a doofus but I don't think he ever expected to get caught up in dramatic acting and it seems that he can pull it off. I'll be interspersing some Mr. Show in with my run through BCS, then. I don't doubt it's great; I've never heard anyone say otherwise. I've never really been too aware of how much impact Bob has had on various shows from a writing standpoint, and if that's where his primary talent lies, I'm all on board with that knowing what he's been involved in. It's always just been weird for me to reconcile that with what I see on-screen (which is undoubtedly a subset of the required reading).
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Feb 19, 2015 20:10
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Brodeurs Nanny posted:This is a pretty awesome skit from T and E: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8u4CEBVq7s one featuring bob himself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwxqfEMiO0g 5-HT fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Feb 19, 2015 |
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Feb 19, 2015 20:11
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Data Graham posted:I'll be interspersing some Mr. Show in with my run through BCS, then. I don't doubt it's great; I've never heard anyone say otherwise. Yeah, that's the thing, a lot of people who are giants in the writing world are, well, writers. You don't see them, and if what you seen of them onscreen is some dumb Chicago character then that's what you think he's all about. I understand that. But it's like, does anyone know who Vernon Chatman is? No, because he's never onscreen. He's one of the very most important names in comedy -- you think of a major success in the past 20 years, his name is probably attached to the writing/production. Same with John Lee. Even someone like Conan who is known for his show and onscreen persona, he's a writing giant who broke a ton of people's careers who are big today. It's just a side of that world which doesn't get publicity nor is something you can see happening. That's why so many people are happy for Bob Odenkirk. He's been paving the way in alternative comedy for almost 30 years and he's finally getting this big role.
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Feb 19, 2015 20:18
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I hated Tim and Eric but Tom Goes To the Mayor was brilliant and Bob was great in it.
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Brodeurs Nanny posted:Yeah, that's the thing, a lot of people who are giants in the writing world are, well, writers. You don't see them, and if what you seen of them onscreen is some dumb Chicago character then that's what you think he's all about. I understand that. Until I read this http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/21/magazine/jack-handey-is-the-envy-of-every-comedy-writer-in-america.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 I had no idea how much bigger a deal Jack Handey was than just the Deep Thoughts.
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Feb 19, 2015 22:26
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Meatwave posted:Evidently they go camping a lot: From the podcast, they had to put identifying stickers on cars they were film for some reason, anyone remembers let me know. Anyway, they like to use them for a bit of foreshadowing or whatever, which is cool, so maybe we should look out for car stickers in the future..
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Feb 19, 2015 23:25
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Megaspel posted:From the podcast, they had to put identifying stickers on cars they were film for some reason
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Feb 19, 2015 23:27
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JT Jag posted:You need another sticker on this car before you can start filming. Nine dollars or another sticker. I'm just trying to stay under budget! The studio is all the way back in New York! You really want me to go all the way back there to get one more sticker? Come on man, just push the button, have a heart.
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Feb 19, 2015 23:56
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JT Jag posted:You need another sticker on this car before you can start filming. Nine dollars or another sticker. SCREW YOU, JAGUAR! *peels out*
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Feb 20, 2015 00:01
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VendaGoat posted:I'm just trying to stay under budget! The studio is all the way back in New York! You really want me to go all the way back there to get one more sticker? Come on man, just push the button, have a heart. Another sticker or nine bucks. 
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Feb 20, 2015 00:19
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Megaspel posted:From the podcast, they had to put identifying stickers on cars they were film for some reason, anyone remembers let me know. Anyway, they like to use them for a bit of foreshadowing or whatever, which is cool, so maybe we should look out for car stickers in the future.. I noticed the car stickers right away so I was a little annoyed by the second, lingering close-up shot. BB/BCS is usually a little more subtle than that "HEY LOOK AT THESE STICKERS PEOPLE" shot.
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Feb 20, 2015 00:46
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Exodor posted:I noticed the car stickers right away so I was a little annoyed by the second, lingering close-up shot. BB/BCS is usually a little more subtle than that "HEY LOOK AT THESE STICKERS PEOPLE" shot. Are we watching the same franchise? The show where God basically screams at Skyler to get the gently caress out of New Mexico? Where hellfire rains down on Walt? Breaking Bad is many things, but it often wasn't very subtle.
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Feb 20, 2015 01:03
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Exodor posted:I noticed the car stickers right away so I was a little annoyed by the second, lingering close-up shot. BB/BCS is usually a little more subtle than that "HEY LOOK AT THESE STICKERS PEOPLE" shot. From a distance you can't really tell it's specifically a camping-themed family, though. Considering seeing that is how Jimmy figured out specifically where they'd hide near by, it makes sense to actually close up on it.
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Gaz-L posted:Are we watching the same franchise? The show where God basically screams at Skyler to get the gently caress out of New Mexico? Where hellfire rains down on Walt? Breaking Bad is many things, but it often wasn't very subtle. Remember the DEAth mug? I'm currently developing a theory about Jimmy's rant in HH & McGill's about Chuck's stuff. I just need to figure out what the lingering shot with the desk lamps symbolizes and then plug all those numbers into my numerology app and I'll be able to predict the series' finale.
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Feb 20, 2015 01:18
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JT Jag posted:You need another sticker on this car before you can start filming. Nine dollars or another sticker. Quoting this greatness... so we have enough quotes for another sticker.
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Data Graham posted:I'll be interspersing some Mr. Show in with my run through BCS, then. I don't doubt it's great; I've never heard anyone say otherwise. Thing is though, there wasn't a lot of improv on Mr. Show, except for the dvd commentaries.
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Feb 20, 2015 01:22
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Accretionist posted:Saul negotiating for the twins reminded me of his BB line, "Conscience gets expensive, doesn't it?" I've been looking for that to be a theme ever since. Conscience do cost- Saul "Butchie" Goodman.
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Feb 20, 2015 02:13
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It's silly, and fan-servicy, and lame, but I'd love for all of the AMC shows to have ties to each other. I know The Walking Dead made a couple of references to BB, but I want more.
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Feb 20, 2015 03:48
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ruddiger posted:It's also extremely terrible. Aw gently caress. gently caress! This is how I find out? Is there any left of the 2nd season or did that finish?
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*edit wrong thread*
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Interstitial Abs posted:I know how it ends, and I'm calling it now. The only acceptable riff on a classic TV ending is to do the ending to Newhart only it's Bob Odenkirk waking up in bed next David Cross and waking him up to tell him about the crazy dream he just had. Meatwave posted:Evidently they go camping a lot: Maybe it's just me but I thought that those family stickers didn't really become a thing until the mid-00s? I mean, it's nothing major compared to some of the stuff Breaking Bad pulled but still. withak posted:Chucks brickphone was a clear sign that this was supposed to be more than a few years in the past. Late 1980s maybe? According to the podcast it's the same kind of cell phone they used in season one of The X-Files, so early 90s. Rageaholic Monkey posted:And that secluded payphone that Jimmy calls the Kettlemans from is in that area too. Also according to the podcast both of the payphones were props that they had to bring in and set up since payphones basically don't exist in the wild anymore.
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Sleeveless posted:The only acceptable riff on a classic TV ending is to do the ending to Newhart only it's Bob Odenkirk waking up in bed next David Cross and waking him up to tell him about the crazy dream he just had. Given the fact that they filmed this scene with Brian Cranston and Jane Kasmarek(sp) for the Breaking Bad Blu-Ray extras I could picture this happening and it would be hilarious.
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Feb 20, 2015 05:29
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BCS podcast mirrors. If you'd like to leave a messageBETTERCALLSAUL BCS 101 Uno Live Discussion Podcast Dropbox Mirror BCS 102 Mijo Live Discussion Podcast Dropbox Mirror BCS 103 Nacho Live Discussion Podcast Dropbox Mirror
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Sleeveless posted:Maybe it's just me but I thought that those family stickers didn't really become a thing until the mid-00s? I mean, it's nothing major compared to some of the stuff Breaking Bad pulled but still.. The show takes place in the mid 2000s.
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Feb 20, 2015 05:36
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Cojawfee posted:The show takes place in the mid 2000s. 
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Cojawfee posted:The show takes place in the mid 2000s. His credit card exp date is 11/04 or something so yeah what they poster above me just pointed out with photographic evidence. I was so inebriated when I watched the first ep I couldn't piece together it was a prequel and that's why he didn't know Mike or Tuco. 
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I urge you all to read Vince Gilligan's detailed Breaking Bad chronology wherein he outlines precisely when every event that takes place in BB down to the precise day of each week in each year. For example: did you know Tuco almost made it to his birthday (February 10) before dying on February 8, 2008? Breaking Bad has always had a very meticulously constructed timeline and I expect Better Call Saul to have the same attention in regards to lining up real life dates and times
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:It's silly, and fan-servicy, and lame, but I'd love for all of the AMC shows to have ties to each other. I know The Walking Dead made a couple of references to BB, but I want more. Please don't taint this show with your zombie garbage
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Sleeveless posted:Maybe it's just me but I thought that those family stickers didn't really become a thing until the mid-00s? I mean, it's nothing major compared to some of the stuff Breaking Bad pulled but still. What?
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