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im socially liberal and fiscally conservative which correspond well w me being socially popular and fiscally successful
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Fiscally conservative? You asked for a pay cut at work then spent double your annual salary on a wild goose chase in the middle east?
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TEAYCHES posted:The best option is to not vote, in my opinion. Watch the elections with an amused detachment. I'm in California now. I can state my opinion loudly, get hosed up and then vomit everywhere. That counts as voting, right?
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Feb 20, 2015 11:14
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So we've already moved on from schadenfreude, to bleak hopeless cynicim and depression, and now its a witchhunt against anyone not sufficiiently leftist. And we're a year and a loving half from the election. Can Ted Cruz please do something stupid so we can stop this dismal loving dick measuring pity party?
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Im pulling for a Clinton/Castro ticket just so we can see the right at maximum frothiness.
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Feb 20, 2015 13:10
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bird cooch posted:Im pulling for a Clinton/Castro ticket just so we can see the right at maximum frothiness. Right, because they weren't at maximum frothiness for eight years with a black man in the White House.
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Feb 20, 2015 14:25
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bird cooch posted:Im pulling for a Clinton/Castro ticket just so we can see the right at maximum frothiness. for max froth, you need Castro/Castro, or Castro/Gabbard.
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Feb 20, 2015 14:27
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TEAYCHES posted:thats a really loving long post to explain how you are an authoritarian imperial shithead. but its really, for real cool, to see someone who believes in literally nothing and embrace the surveillance state and imperialism with so many weak caveats to liberalism We must not have read the same post. What's the point of futile and unrealistic idealism? We can't make fantasies real just by believing in them strongly enough. There is a difference between believing in pragmatism, in finding the best outcomes, in not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good and in believing in "literally nothing." He's absolutely right about privacy. He's got a healthy and realistic attitude toward it and people who don't will need to have their attitudes evolve or else be needlessly unhappy. Technology has changed the world in a lot of ways, and one of the things it has altered is what privacy means. We are unlucky as a superpower because it gives us duties that other countries don't have to shoulder. It is a burden worth bearing though, because if we weren't the top of the heap, someone else would be. Every mountain has a highest point. It has to be us, that's the best outcome for us. Since its us, we have the duty to others to use our power to make things better elsewhere. We also have a duty to ourselves to use our power to make things better for ourselves. Just like how it isn't wrong for a parent to favor his own child's welfare over that of a stranger, or a friend for a friend's, it isn't wrong for us to prioritize our own country's interests above those of others. Also, as long as we believe it would be better for the world if we were the superpower than if another country was, securing that role for ourselves is a benefit to others. And "drone strikes" are probably the moral means yet invented to wage war. They are as precise as possible, and put the fewest lives at risk. The alternative to using the most precise weapons is to use less precise ones, and more of them. I find it hard to understand how that would be a better outcome for anyone except companies that manufacture bombs. hakimashou fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Feb 20, 2015 |
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Feb 20, 2015 14:29
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Wrap it up, Clintonailures.
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Feb 20, 2015 14:31
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Alter Ego posted:Right, because they weren't at maximum frothiness for eight years with a black man in the White House. Barack Hussein Obama. It's never getting better than that.
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TEAYCHES posted:
Except this is the real world and in the real world power vacuums are filled. The US sucks. The other countries that would take our place are a lot worse. This is really obvious for anyone who isn't hopelessly idealistic. hakimashou posted:We must not have read the same post. And then these same people beg the US to intervene all over the world. Who exactly do they think would be stopping Russia if not for US hegemony around the world? They talk about how much they hate US imperialism and then beg the US to save Syria, Kurdistan, Ukraine, and so on. Even Libya would have been completely impossible without the US, something that had overwhelming approval here. International politics is no more comparable to a playground than illegal immigration is to someone breaking into your house. Which is why the simplistic analogies people make here utterly fail and their ideas have literally no traction with anyone of influence. icantfindaname posted:no seriously, you're a sociopath. seek mental help, and stay away from politics Yet you are going to vote for people with the exact same views, hope this helps.
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Cliff Racer posted:But thats the whole thing, do the things the government does or wants to do benefit us enough to make up for their costs? Often times the answer is no. Wheeee posted:lol I dunnno Wheeeee, the idea that the US does more bad than good seems to be the overwhelming opinion here, maybe you should talk it out and get your views straight. Seems a lot want to have the US be this extremely powerful country that never exerts its influence or at least only does so in the most ideal way possible; such a country has never existed and I can't imagine that is changing anytime soon.
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PupsOfWar posted:for max froth, you need Castro/Castro, or Castro/Gabbard. Ellison/Gabbard! Because if you're running a Hindu, run an overt Muslim, too.
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Aliquid posted:imagine four world powers on the edge of a cliff. realpolitik works the same way ... Surprisingly accurate.
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Fulchrum posted:So we've already moved on from schadenfreude, to bleak hopeless cynicim and depression, and now its a witchhunt against anyone not sufficiiently leftist. What the gently caress is it with you people and thinking that 1-2 people is OVERWHELMING CONSENSUS on a topic. Oh no, TEAYCHES posted like 5 times in a row that means that its a liberal witchhunt!!! Stop loving acting like a couple people posting means everyone is out to overwhelm your opinions on things. It's loving childish and boring.
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Feb 20, 2015 15:47
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bird cooch posted:Cliff Racer was asked what his political leanings were. He answered. Well calling someone a shithead is easier than actually debating them, and simply not posting isn't an option....
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Feb 20, 2015 15:49
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De-politicize yourself and face to happiness. 
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gnarlyhotep posted:De-politicize yourself and face to happiness.
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*sputters insanely*
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fanged wang posted:*sputters insanely* That's the spirit!
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:The documentary is titled "Light Wins: How To Overcome The Criminalization Of Christianity," Wow. That's pretty rich considering that in some states it's still illegal to be gay, get your dick sucked or butt-gently caress, but last time I checked you can be a Christian anywhere you want to. The level of persecution complex these people seem to possess appears to be bottomless (heh). I drive around on Sunday mornings and we have cops stopping and directing traffic just to conveniently let people out of church, stopping my atheist rear end as I'm on my way to the grocery store or some poo poo. How persecuted Christians are, those poor bastards. It's not like we print "God" on our loving money, swear people in on a Bible and never elect atheists to office or anything. These poor, powerless persecuted people. Won't someone do something?
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BiggerBoat posted:
You ever see a ton of elderly people and soccer moms/dads trying to exit a parking lot at the same time without direction? Those cops are probably doing you a favor. Your overall point stands, of course.
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lmao sodomy hasn't been illegal since lawrence v texas get your fax strait libtard
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pff! nvm
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Feb 20, 2015 20:38
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Conservatives crying LF when their bullshit gets pushed in, classic.
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Alter Ego posted:Right, because they weren't at maximum frothiness for eight years with a black man in the White House. BHO is a hard act to follow to be sure, but who can you put up realistically to make the right continue to alienate major portions of the population? Backing up a black man with a muslim name with an old crone and a messican is a pretty strong play. My Soros Bux are on Hilldog/Fidel. Nonsense posted:Conservatives crying LF when their bullshit gets pushed in, classic. Who is a conservative? Im a Warren/Sanders man myself, but that's not in the realm of possibility. Calling anyone a conservative on this forum is pretty laughable outside of artzy and a few obvious trolls and librarians who make drive- bys.
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bird cooch posted:librarians who make drive- bys. I had one fire off a few rounds of Joseph Conrad at me once, it was a close call
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mlmp08 posted:You ever see a ton of elderly people and soccer moms/dads trying to exit a parking lot at the same time without direction? Those cops are probably doing you a favor. Your overall point stands, of course. I do. Same way I see cops directing traffic on the way out of a sporting event or a concert, but none of those people leaving the Eagles concert or the Steelers game are hollering about being persecuted Christians, tyranny and big government on their way out . Maybe they are, but that just proves my point. Those cops are doing me a favor. But I'm not the person bitching about "my tax dollerz!" going towards people who really need help and public infrastructure and safety. I guess my point is that that Christians aren't a persecuted minority in need of government protection, their religion is in no way illegal and they should shut the gently caress up.
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bird cooch posted:BHO is a hard act to follow to be sure, but who can you put up realistically to make the right continue to alienate major portions of the population? Backing up a black man with a muslim name with an old crone and a messican is a pretty strong play. My Soros Bux are on Hilldog/Fidel. whose racist agin messicans who ain't racist agin blacks? whose racist agin blacks who ain't racist agin messicans? We gotta optimize for racist demographics if we're gonna pull this off
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gnarlyhotep posted:I had one fire off a few rounds of Joseph Conrad at me once, it was a close call cheerleading this post
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bird cooch posted:BHO is a hard act to follow to be sure, but who can you put up realistically to make the right continue to alienate major portions of the population? Backing up a black man with a muslim name with an old crone and a messican is a pretty strong play. My Soros Bux are on Hilldog/Fidel. Those drive by librarians piss me off too, helping me find reference materials n' poo poo.
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BAP BAP BAP POW Turn yo front porch into a smokin pile of archived Highlights magazine issues bitch
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PupsOfWar posted:whose racist agin blacks who ain't racist agin messicans? The Bush family.
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fanged wang posted:lmao sodomy hasn't been illegal since lawrence v texas get your fax strait libtard http://www.salon.com/2015/02/20/louisiana_police_apologizes_for_unconstitutional_anti_sodomy_crackdown/ Doesn't mean they won't bust you for it.
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Chadderbox posted:Those drive by librarians piss me off too, helping me find reference materials n' poo poo. I wish the world had more drive-by librarians and less libertarians, and autocorrect agrees with me. PupsOfWar posted:whose racist agin messicans who ain't racist agin blacks? We already have a fire going in the republican house, tossing more gas on it cant hurt. bird cooch fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Feb 20, 2015 |
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Feb 20, 2015 22:56
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Nice post of a screenshot of a tweet
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bpower posted:Barack Hussein Obama. It's never getting better than that. Bill Clinton is going to be back putting his feet up on all the White House furniture while his murderous, conspiracy creating wife is getting all uppity in the Oval Office. The only way B. HUSSEIN Obama could have hoped to be scarier than that is if Michelle was a pretty white woman.
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I'm pretty sure just the fact that they are denied the white house again is gonna make them freak out more even if the president were a straight white christian male.
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Fulchrum posted:I'm pretty sure just the fact that they are denied the white house again is gonna make them freak out more even if the president were a straight white christian male. (The Roberts court might entertain it. It depends on Kennedy, of course.)
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