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Ehud posted:It's from Joker Phillips doing whatever he did to get fired. Thanks for clearing this up. I had no idea they were even under investigation, completely forgotten about that incident. You're probably right since UF fired him but knowing the NCAA they'll overreach with some USC-type sanctions.
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Deteriorata posted:It's a "major" violation but I doubt it will have major effects. Hey now, /r/cfb might have a field day with Florida jokes for a few hours.
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Dave Doeren has been given a 2 year extension through 2019 at NC State.
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Looks like freshman ineligibility is going to become a hot issue for a while: Report: Big Ten open to explore hoops, football freshman ineligibility quote:According to the docs the The Diamondback obtained, the Big Ten is in the early stages of starting/contributing to a "national discussion" over the practicality and likelihood that this previously universal practice could one day again take hold. Personally, I'm tentatively in favor of this. It's a move to step away from the overt commercialism of college sports and reemphasizes that colleges exist to educate, not field athletic teams. Fundamentally, players who have no interest in a college education should not be wasting roster spots on college teams. I also recognize that there are good arguments against it, so it's not something I'm going to argue about a lot. If they don't do this but it precipitates other changes in the same vein, I won't complain. We'll have to see where it all goes. The fact that they are talking about this and see it as a serious problem to be addressed is the most important aspect of it.
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They ought to just open up the NBA D-League to high school graduates. It would be nice if there were a minor league for football. You shouldn't have to go to college for a career in professional sports. There was a part in the Blind Side (book) about how there was tons of IA talent in Memphis that would never be able to qualify for college football because the education system is so crappy.
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Deteriorata posted:Looks like freshman ineligibility is going to become a hot issue for a while: I would consider it for football, just because there are a lot of kids who barely play/redshirt to begin with and a year to physically get ready for the next level might not be terrible, but I think it's a bit disingenuous to say this exists purely as a way of making colleges about education. For basketball, all this would do is make guys pretend to be students for two years instead of one or in some cases try to jump to be pro somewhere else. Like, I'm sorry, but the guys on the Kentucky roster will never just be guys trying to get their education first as long as they can make millions of dollars in the NBA and finish up school on their own time/summers later on. And for football, this kind of ignores the fact that some kids come in as freaky man-children who can play right away and that guys have the ability to take redshirts if they need to for athletic or education reasons to begin with. With high school conditioning and strength programs getting better, guys are coming in more ready to play than ever before for CFB, and I'm not exactly confident this isn't the NCAA trying to gently caress its athletes out of some earning power by making them stay an extra year since that's a whole year of tape they don't get to have. I understand wanting to make sure these guys can get degrees, and I'm all for that, but a lot of them would be better suited to go pro from college and be able to do that on their own time in the offseason rather than trying to do school on top of athletics.
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Does the plan for freshman getting good a forced redshirt year still give them 4 total years or 4 after the redshirt? I could sort of understand 4 after redshirt, but I like the give them 5 I'd they want it idea better. Would this also means that the non playing freshman year counts toward being 3 years in to declare for the draft or would it be freshman year + 3 playing years?
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KKKLIP ART posted:Does the plan for freshman getting good a forced redshirt year still give them 4 total years or 4 after the redshirt? I could sort of understand 4 after redshirt, but I like the give them 5 I'd they want it idea better. Would this also means that the non playing freshman year counts toward being 3 years in to declare for the draft or would it be freshman year + 3 playing years? Declaring for the draft has nothing to do with the NCAA. It's about age limits the professional leagues impose. The only thing it does with respect to college is end their eligibility. I'm assuming it's still four years to play after sitting the first one out, but the original rule rescinded in 1972 was four years total, so only three years to play. That's probably one of the areas to be hashed out. It's not a done deal at this point, they're still exploring the concept without any concrete proposals.
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Yeah that's just what the Big Ten needs is another massive recruiting disadvantage, good job guys.Spacemonkey57 posted:They ought to just open up the NBA D-League to high school graduates. It already is, but it pays garbage and anyone who does it tends to get looked down on by scouts so top prospects avoid it if they have the choice (it is also, on average, a higher level of play even if it doesn't have the same star power of college basketball, so it can be harder for someone to get time straight out of high school and shine). If you're going to go somewhere straight out of high school going to China or Europe is probably the better option finacially, but that also lessens your exposure and there's a big culture shock that lots of 18 year olds are equipped to deal with, and at least when it comes to Europe most of them aren't ready to play immediately at that level so they get buried. MourningView fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Feb 20, 2015 |
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The Pac 12 and Big 12 are also interested in this so it's not like it's the Big Ten only
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So Delaney was like "Hey we stopped being a national laughing stock in football for a second, better correct that!"
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There's no chance any major conference will implement this without it being applied to the entire NCAA so let's not pretend whoever is talking about it matters.
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pillsburysoldier posted:I dunno, didnt uga with AJ Greene and Moreno and Aaron Murray lose to UCF? Murray and AJ, but Moreno was gone: http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=303652116 The scoring summary on that game is super depressing.
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Sash! posted:The Pac 12 and Big 12 are also interested in this so it's not like it's the Big Ten only This is such a dumb idea. I'm really all on board with the mission being education, first and foremost, but when the very schools pushing for this are just going to shuffle them into easy classes (or in the case of UNC, basically non-existent classes) they probably don't have the best interests of athletes at heart. And the one-and-done phenomenon is not going to change. The elite talent will go to college for two years and then move on. Does this really change things? Does this have some obscure legal implications related to the lawsuits or the unionization pushes that they could use? That's all I can think of.
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drunk leprechaun posted:Start prepping your liver for that weekend now buddy. You know that poo poo's gonna get messy. My liver will need a replacement after that weekend if we do it right.
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Deteriorata posted:Looks like freshman ineligibility is going to become a hot issue for a while: This is exactly the type of old man football I'd expect from the Big Ten.
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Florida is not being penalized. http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/former-florida-assistant-coach-commits-recruiting-violation Firing Joker and ending the recruitment of the player in question was deemed enough of a self-corrective action so the NCAA isn't doing anything. Yay.
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Ehud posted:Florida is not being penalized. Meanwhile, a dude in a non-money sport (women's gymnastics) sent 154 extra "texts" to recruits (combination of emails from phone, which the NCAA counts as texts) and he gets ban hammered with a show cause and despite the school taking corrective and punitive action, gets probation. Yep. The NCAA totally being equitable here. MourningView posted:Yeah that's just what the Big Ten needs is another massive recruiting disadvantage, good job guys. Luck wants to make it so that kids who go to the D-League or Minor League baseball/hockey could come back and play college sports again, which I think is a really good idea.
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News: Maryland DC Brian Stewart resigns News: Brian Stewart hired as Nebraska DB coach Views: We have a former Cowboys DC on staff? OK then.
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Real Name Grover posted:News: Maryland DC Brian Stewart resigns I mean I guess kinda, but Wade was actually running the defense and he just had the title.
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That's what I figured. I only vaguely remembered the guy. Decent resume for a college position coach though; I'll take him. E: Guess it may not be a done deal as earlier reported, but whatever
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Real Name Grover posted:News: Maryland DC Brian Stewart resigns Hope he's learned having a secondary is something of value.
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Real Name Grover posted:News: Maryland DC Brian Stewart resigns Ahahahah gently caress off Maryland
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Korranus posted:Hope he's learned having a secondary is something of value. If you mean with the Cowboys I kinda doubt he had much to do with who his NFL teams were drafting. MourningView fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Feb 20, 2015 |
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Maryland's defense wasn't terrible the last couple years, tbh.
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MourningView posted:If you mean with the Cowboys I kinda doubt he had much to do with who his NFL teams were drafting if you're talking about that. He was UH's DC in 2010-11. Come to think of it, my mind had never even considered that Houston even had a D.
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Real Name Grover posted:He was UH's DC in 2010-11. Come to think of it, my mind had never even considered that Houston even had a D. They didn't back when Stewart was the DC. UH has actually had a passable defense the last couple of years under David Gibbs (now at Texas Tech) and last year the offense was non-existent...which was a reason Tony Levine got fired.
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VDay posted:Yeah I'm liking the hire on paper. As a bonus his potential hiring is making the idiots on Bruinsnation fight with each other and race to see who can have the hottest take or come up with the most hyperbolic condemnation, which is always entertaining. It's worth noting that while the cover 2 got killed against great passing teams, the defense was really a bend don't break defense, and they were great in the red zone.
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I've seen former PSU beat writers and reporters say that his defenses a lot of the time were mostly a result of that being Paterno's preferred system and he's actually more of a 3-4 guy, so he should be able to use our players well. I'm liking the hiring a lot the more I read about his time at PSU.
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Wanvig posted:Maybe this has been photoshopped too, but shouldn't it be "Florida Field at Ben Hill Griffin Stadium"? They get confused easily
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Crotch Bat posted:VT/UT will be...interesting. With a competent QB it'll probably be the best O at VT since Tyrod Taylor was a senior but the D is going to lose a lot across the line and Kendall Fuller in the secondary(unless for some reason he comes back as a senior). Still, I'd rather replace on D than O, Foster knows how to make things work. Of course, the defense was also kind of lackluster in that year where Tyrod was a senior and Evans/Williams/Wilson ran wild. drunk leprechaun posted:Start prepping your liver for that weekend now buddy. You know that poo poo's gonna get messy. My girlfriend and her parents went to Tennessee, grew up about 5 minutes from the Bristol Motor Speedway (to the extent that the express lanes to the track cut literally through their back yard property), and I went to Virginia Tech and lived in Blacksburg for about 10 years. She and they are great, but I may die during or in the vicinity of that game.
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I wish I could go to that game. But despite my rural Pennsylvania upbringing makes me familiar with their ways and customs, I know from experience that I have the wrong accent.
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I don't understand freshman ineligibility. Do they think it's going to make guys more likely to go to class if they're not playing? The one and done phenomenon is only an issue is basketball, and only effects a tiny percentage of players in that case. I certainly can't conceive of an individual conference instituting that rule without the assurance that everyone else is going to follow suit. As MV pointed out, that would be a gigantic recruiting disadvantage. General Dog fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Feb 21, 2015 |
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Frackie Robinson posted:I don't understand freshman ineligibility. Do they think it's going to make guys more likely to go to class if they're not playing? The one and done phenomenon is only an issue is basketball, and only effects a tiny percentage of players in that case. It's probably also physically safer for them to be able to spend a year in the system, practicing against other college-caliber players and spending time in the gym/weight room. I'm kinda for it. I like the idea of "Five for five" better.
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Strobe posted:It's probably also physically safer for them to be able to spend a year in the system, practicing against other college-caliber players and spending time in the gym/weight room. If a player is at a point where you fear for their safety on the field, I don't think they're going to see much action as a true freshman as it is.
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Frackie Robinson posted:If a player is at a point where you fear for their safety on the field, I don't think they're going to see much action as a true freshman as it is. Good job missing the forest for trees. Any true freshman regardless of athletic ability would benefit from a year spent training and conditioning. These kids are still developing, and injuries can happen to anyone.
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