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Is there any particular reason that in a thread about all right wing media this same single guy I've never heard of before gets posted over and over and over? Which one of you is him, and do you really think you're going to launch your media career by posting in here?
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Feb 20, 2015 17:01
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Chadderbox posted:Is there any particular reason that in a thread about all right wing media this same single guy I've never heard of before gets posted over and over and over? Which one of you is him, and do you really think you're going to launch your media career by posting in here? Well, of course, nobody here actually consumes any right wing media (except for "heard two seconds of Rush on my commute" or "walked in on crazy dad watching Megan Kelly on the way to the fridge" situations), so we have hard-working internet journalists who watch it for us and re-tweet the most outrageous stuff on Twitter. Then a helpful forum-goer re-posts it here so we can make snide comments and spit at it angrily for a while before we get tired and move onto the next outrageous thing. We consume whatever's served to us, and Steven Crowder and Red Beard and Glasses Man are some of the best sources for outrageous poo poo lately, so we've been eating a lot of poo poo.
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Feb 20, 2015 17:20
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peach moonshine posted:Well, of course, nobody here actually consumes any right wing media (except for "heard two seconds of Rush on my commute" or "walked in on crazy dad watching Megan Kelly on the way to the fridge" situations), so we have hard-working internet journalists who watch it for us and re-tweet the most outrageous stuff on Twitter. Then a helpful forum-goer re-posts it here so we can make snide comments and spit at it angrily for a while before we get tired and move onto the next outrageous thing. We consume whatever's served to us, and Steven Crowder and Red Beard and Glasses Man are some of the best sources for outrageous poo poo lately, so we've been eating a lot of poo poo. Just like Freepers and Rush's non-ironic listeners, we too desire a diet of constantly escalating rage porn.
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Feb 20, 2015 17:24
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:
Because asking your spouse for food is the same as telling random strangers that their place in society is a position of subservience to others.
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Feb 20, 2015 17:25
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Wow, I always thought Tom Friedman was just some milquetoast chucklefuck who got paid to write insipid bullshit, but after listening to that speech, I'm reminded of how "respectable" people like him cheerled us into Iraq. Anyway for a VSP thread, I've thought of several sections: Intro, Significance: something like, how Rush and Fox cater to the screaming id of disaffected, right wing Christians while VSPs are more of a reassuring ego to bankers and rich people? Where they appear/write: CNN, Meet the Press, New York Times/Wall Street Journal, NPR... Examples
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Feb 20, 2015 17:29
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Chadderbox posted:Is there any particular reason that in a thread about all right wing media this same single guy I've never heard of before gets posted over and over and over? it's because nobody has heard of him that he is desperate to launch his career as a professional obnoxious person by being as obnoxious as possible, which makes him good fodder for the "people making obnoxious political statements" thread
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Feb 20, 2015 17:30
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Wow, I always thought Tom Friedman was just some milquetoast chucklefuck who got paid to write insipid bullshit, but after listening to that speech, I'm reminded of how "respectable" people like him cheerled us into Iraq. I'm writing these in my free time, if anyone wants to message me the particularly lovely example articles from the VSPs
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Feb 20, 2015 17:47
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Rexicon1 posted:I'm fairly certain that "deviation from normal physiology" is literally the definition of disease. The idea of how humans are "meant to function" is nonsense. In the case of mental issues it's less "deviation from the norm" and more "interferes with proper functioning." Even if you meet the diagnostic criteria for something it doesn't count as a disorder unless it fucks up your life somehow. If you function properly and aren't a danger to others (i.e., have a job, a place to live, enough social contact, etc.) you're basically considered sane. There's some grey area in that but the issue with mental stuff is how do you define "normal human behavior?"
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Feb 20, 2015 17:55
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Rexicon1 posted:Posting that Crowder tweet right after listening to Friedman's mealy-mouthed bullshit made me reflexively say gently caress sorta loud here in the library. My labmate came over and asked what it was about and I just said "loving white people". THERE'S your "very serious people" thread title
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Feb 20, 2015 18:41
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Duke Igthorn posted:THERE'S your "very serious people" thread title What about Don Lemon?
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Feb 20, 2015 18:56
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I'd classify Fareed Zakaria as a VSP too, personally.
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Feb 20, 2015 18:57
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Stephen Crowder is a kid who jumps pawns over 3 different pieces, says "king me" and then can't hear you explaining the rules to chess because he's too busy talking about how he owns at this game. That was the most obvious strawman I've seen in years and I'm not 100% sure he's aware that he even did that.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:06
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Gravel Gravy posted:What about Don Lemon? Somehow "ignorant white" actually transcends race. (It's actually just living inside a bubble instead of the real world, it's just an overwhelmingly white thing.)
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Feb 20, 2015 19:11
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It's amazing this meme of "I'm proud to support gender inequality" (i.e., the very definition of non-feminism) has really taken off in right-wing circles and even across the Internet-- I see it a ton on Imgur and Reddit and Youtube and other registration-free dregs-of-the-Internet sites.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:13
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I was wondering if any major outlets would bite on this: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/02/bill-oreilly-brian-williams-falklands-war http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/02/questions-bill-oreilly-falklands-david-corn I won't go on a quote fest since I know we've talked about Bill's own "war reporting" bullshit, but it looks like he's responding now that MJ is on the case. His main defense being the fact that he can just say "I never said I was in the Falklands!" while the very solid explanation of why that's not an answer takes too long to explain than anyone will put up with. Dudes pretty prickly though and I can see him throwing gas on the fire if he feels slighted. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Feb 20, 2015 |
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Feb 20, 2015 19:33
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If you're gonna do a very serious people thread, you can't have one Friedman without listing the other as well. He and Hayek (and Mises too i guess) had a lot to do with Reaganomics and Thatcherism. Jeffrey Sachs had a lot to do with the shock therapy economic policies enacted in South America in the 80s & 90s, Russia's failed decentralization, and the UN's failed Millennium Development program.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:43
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Intel&Sebastian posted:His main defense being the fact that he can just say "I never said I was in the Falklands!" while the very solid explanation of why that's not an answer takes too long to explain than anyone will put up with. "Yes he did" + video
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Feb 20, 2015 19:44
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VideoTapir posted:"Yes he did" + video http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-oreilly-falklands-20150219-story.html
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Feb 20, 2015 19:46
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VideoTapir posted:"Yes he did" + video That's too long these days for anyone capable of holding him accountable. Between this being about the loving Falklands and his Fox News armor of unchecked hypocrisy, our only real hope is Bill himself forgetting the nature of these exchanges and engaging again. Which isn't an impossibility.
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Feb 20, 2015 19:48
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Re: Bill O'Reilly. I said it last week and I'll say it again. The reason so many "journalists" were being so circumspect about the Brian Williams lying thing is that many of them are guilty of the exact same thing.
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Feb 20, 2015 21:23
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Intel&Sebastian posted:That's too long these days for anyone capable of holding him accountable. Between this being about the loving Falklands and his Fox News armor of unchecked hypocrisy, our only real hope is Bill himself forgetting the nature of these exchanges and engaging again. Which isn't an impossibility. I do like how Brian Williams can be like "Guess I was wrong" and be vilified, while Bill can be like "Only some rear end in a top hat would dare question my history and stance. How bout we drop you in a warzone you pinko poo poo?" only to have the metaphorical crowd slowly stand, salute and start a slow clap. The lesson is that Williams should've treated his audience like garbage and vehemently denied wrongdoing even in the face of evidence, perhaps stooping to insult naysayers directly.
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Feb 20, 2015 21:52
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We also have to remember that Brian Williams 1) Has a much larger and well rounded audience than Bill. 2) Bill's audience looks to him as a leader in the war on everything old white people can't stand, not a newsman. They don't hold him accountable because they aren't really looking to him for truthful sober reporting. They're looking for marching orders. Williams absolutely should not have done anything that Bill is doing because he'd catch the hell that Bill would if he was an actual news reporter. It's the difference between robbing someones WoW account and robbing someone on the street. Neither are good but I wouldn't expect to end up in jail for the former.
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Feb 20, 2015 22:01
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So last night I was channel surfing and caught Hannity going to commercial teasing "an update on Orgy Island." That seemed weird so I hung around and saw an entire segment where Hannity and company came THIIIIIIIIIIIS close to calling Bill Clinton a pedophile. The whole segment was about drawing links between Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein and stopping JUST short of calling a former US president a pedophile without a shred of evidence. Actually, that's not entirely true. The one Hannity guest flat out said Clinton was having sex with a 17-year-old girl who Epstein acquired for him. He offered no evidence to back this up and no one challenged it. Is this a current Right Wing thing or is it just Hannity being Hannity? Like, am I just being naive that I was shocked that they'd flat out speculate on a former president being a loving pedophile without any evidence or valid reason? It was literally "he flew on a plane with the guy a couple of times and the guy plead the fifth when asked about Clinton so... PEDOPHILE!" It threw me back.
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Feb 20, 2015 22:27
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It's hosed up but again, this is assigning more credit to Hannity than he deserves. That sort of thing and much worse flies all over RW radio and Hannity is like 2 steps above their poo poo. He gets away with it because no one but the choir pays attention to him and no one there expects him to cite evidence or be an honest dealer. Not to say that choir isn't a decent chunk of this weirdo country, or that Hannity isn't a really terrible person for engaging in this drek, just that it'd do the rest of us a lot of good to stop expecting that whole set to give a poo poo about the veracity of the news they consume. RW media is a gross cesspool in a verifiable, demonstratable way. It's just that no one actually cares enough or expects any better from them.
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Feb 20, 2015 22:36
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Yeah, but I mean... "President Clinton is a pedophile because everyone who has ever rode in an airplane with a pedophile is a pedophile" just seemed beyond the pale to me. But maybe I'm just blissfully ignorant of what really is going on on the other side of the Pale.
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Feb 20, 2015 22:40
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I just don't feel like it should be my job anymore to care that Hannity wants to do sick poo poo like this or that people are begging to have it ladled to them. After this long it's very much a "person who doesn't want to help themselves" situation. If "47%", "unskewed polls" and all the other moments of RWM loving the movement don't open their eyes then I'm not going to waste my time doing anything but laughing at them. STAC Goat posted:Yeah, but I mean... "President Clinton is a pedophile because everyone who has ever rode in an airplane with a pedophile is a pedophile" just seemed beyond the pale to me. It very much is but pushing the envelope is these people's jobs now. If anyone even on their side really thought it was news or true then the entirety of FOX would be shouting it from the rooftops, but instead it's just being trolled about on piddly little gossip group TV shows. Everyone from top to bottom knows exactly what that means: it's a bunch of bullshit. I wish people cared about it but Hannity is happy to be a gross piece of poo poo on TV and his audience is happy to watch him do it and engage in it themselves. That's too big of a problem to solve from the outside so I'm pretty much done spinning my wheels being outraged that they don't care about the veracity of their news. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Feb 20, 2015 |
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Feb 20, 2015 22:43
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Chadderbox posted:Is there any particular reason that in a thread about all right wing media this same single guy I've never heard of before gets posted over and over and over? Which one of you is him, and do you really think you're going to launch your media career by posting in here? Crowder is the most prominent of the "next-gen" of right wing pundits and he should be mocked and delegitimized as often and heavily as possible. Reminder that he was a Fox News golden boy before he decided to shittalk Hannity and he could easily return to favor.
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Feb 20, 2015 22:54
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He'll be rehabilitated when Hannity dies.
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Feb 20, 2015 22:57
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What was it he said about Hannity?
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Feb 20, 2015 23:00
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:He'll be rehabilitated when Hannity dies. The deaths of prominent right wing figures are unpredictable as anyone could find their phylactery at any time, or it could never happen. E: Crowder said Hannity was incompetent and a terrible host. Which is true, but that's like Liberace calling Elton John flamboyant. mr. mephistopheles fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Feb 20, 2015 |
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Feb 20, 2015 23:01
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The funny thing is Hannity running a show like he does and then getting honestly mad when someone says it's poo poo or he gets voted worst guy at Fox News or whatever. He somehow cares about that, but not enough to do anything about it.
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Feb 20, 2015 23:10
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mr. mephistopheles posted:The deaths of prominent right wing figures are unpredictable as anyone could find their phylactery at any time, or it could never happen. Liberace posted:Have you ever met Elton John? Talk about fey!
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Feb 20, 2015 23:15
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Crowder exists because he has a sugar daddy named Dana Loesch Oh and here Crowder explains why net neutrality is evil to hipsters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cLWgTIsMLM Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Feb 20, 2015 |
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Feb 20, 2015 23:20
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Not pictured: Fedoras, moustaches
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Feb 20, 2015 23:35
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I've never seen that person before. I hate him. Also, holy crap. All those "hipsters" dress and look like so many people around me and my friends! They wear tshirts and sometimes plaid shirts and sometimes dresses and sometimes have facial hair! That's like everyone I know! Am I sorrounding by hipsters!? They all use Twitter! Wait a second... Am I a hipster?!
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Feb 21, 2015 00:01
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I love how net neutrality is such an objectively good thing that the only thing conservatives have to make it sound bad is a bunch of BIG GUBBERMENT bogeyman nonsense. And Hannity will always be my favorite pundit. He is objectively massively successful in his chosen career and yet it's obvious he is plagued by insecurity. Not only does he get upset about Twitter troll posts, but he responds to them directly. I think it's because he, consciously or subconsciously, realizes he is only where he is because he was in the right place at the right time and was inoffensive enough to get the job. He's not crazy, or charismatic, or intelligent, or witty enough to ever be anything but an also-ran, so even though he's a multimillionaire with international recognition, he'll always just be not-Rush in his own mind. I've been listening to Hannity long enough to have seen and noticed when he was trying to be "the sane one" with a veneer of journalistic credibility and how he completely switched that up when Obama was elected to become a sad, pale imitation of Glenn Beck because he lacks the crazy and theatrics to pull off that schtick. All the other pundits I believe are too far up their own asses to see through their own bullshit, but I feel like Hannity sees exactly what we all see when he looks in the mirror.
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Feb 21, 2015 00:08
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What were your top 3 albums of the past 5 years or so?
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mr. mephistopheles posted:I love how net neutrality is such an objectively good thing that the only thing conservatives have to make it sound bad is a bunch of BIG GUBBERMENT bogeyman nonsense. sean hannity is suffering from the world's worst case of imposter syndrome. He knows there's no reason he's successful, and he's terrified that the next person who shouts "Hey, this dude SUCKS" is going to snap everyone awake and they'll all realize that he's terrible and not worth anything and he'll be homeless in six hours
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I bet Crowder's favorite band is Ween. That hipster motherfucker. Also lmao while trying to google this I found out he was on an Arthur Christmas album where he did a song called "It's Kwanzaa Time!"
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