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Sponge Baathist
Jan 30, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Walk to the end of the infinity room.

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pretty good aggro deck
Dec 31, 2007

Extinct!
Aberystwyth University Arts Centre looks like this



In front of it stands a giant monument to stanley knives and some stairs to nowhere



And the library looks like this




Ugh

Sneeing Emu
Dec 5, 2003
Brother, my eyes

Battle Hall :black101: was the best place to study on campus.

The University of Texas has some history with bad architectural campus decisions. Instead of hiring world-renowned architectural firm Herzog and de Meuron to design a building for the Blanton Museum of Art, they instead chose to adhere to the "campus master plan", which is basically "every building must be tan brick with a stupid spanish tile roof". So instead of getting this incredible design that a ton of thought and integrated design went into, we got another tan brick building with a stupid spanish tile roof. The Dean of Architecture at the time actually resigned in part because of that decision.

Soup du Jour
Sep 8, 2011

I always knew I'd die with a headache.


this building, the macnamera alumni center, is actually really weird, because it gives off every impression of being like that Canadian museum monstrosity where they added that giant polygon decades later, but nope it was all designed to be like that. really hosed up imo

Anza Borrego
Feb 11, 2005

Ovis canadensis nelsoni
Some bad opinions on architecture ITT. Some of this is right on but a lot of these buildings are totally unremarkable.

Applewhite posted:

The Tang makes Brutalism look like Art Deco.

E: check out the inside





It's basically hatred expressed in the form of a building.

That looks like a completely normal contemporary museum space. I don't think you really get architecture.
Boston City Hall has a terrible interior with few windows in the interior space, lots of concrete and hardly any natural light. This is a bad interior.


cubicle gangster posted:

zaha hadid is a pretty household name. she recently got really bad though and her new buildings are either poo poo or look like bad copies of stuff u.n. studio did 10 years ago.

Herzog & de meuron, marcio kogan, chad oppenheim, bjarke ingels, richard meier, rem koolhaas, renzo piano (debatable)

depends what you mean by visionary. these guys are pretty famous, well respected and all have a very distinct style that is their own. richard meier is probably the one with the most distinctive voice.

Most of those guys are well past midcareer, with the exception of Bjarke, who is the current Golden Child. He gets the big idea and knows how to sell. His buildings are a bit wonky but whatever.

Piano is a pretty great craftsman. The Nasher is an amazing museum; the Chicago Museum of Art is pretty amazing and the photos of the new expansion of the Harvard museum is pretty dope. He hates landscape though, so he loses a bit of luster for me.

Rem is a visionary thinker but his work is not constructed very well. Jonathan Prince Ramus is carrying his torch fairly well, the Wyly is cool although the site work is poo poo.

Thom Mayne @ Morphosis is growing up and starting to do real buildings.
Michael Rotondi, who split from Mayne, continues to do interesting work.
Brad Cloepfil @ Allied Works is doing good stuff.
Steven Holl makes cool buildings but is a poo poo urban designer.
John Pickard @ PCA is killing the skyscraper game right now.
Pelli Clarke Pelli continues to make interesting commercial buildings.
Tom Phifer is a Meier protege who is also killing it right now.
MAD is also doing cool stuff, mostly in China.

Zaha can loving rot, her recent spate of buildings are so bad. The arena in Japan is so totally devoid of context it's embarassing.


I didn't like Liebeskind's work until I visited the Denver Musuem of Art. It's not efficient at all (and sometimes makes people experience vertigo) but they really get the craft and execute incredibly well.

Applewhite posted:

Googled the "architect" who "designed" the Tang so I could send him a strongly worded letter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_Predock

Predock did an amazing job with the Petco Park, it's really amazing for a baseball stadium.

Not a Children posted:

I don't understand how you can build something that big, ostensibly for public display of collected materials, and then have loving NOTHING INSIDE

Liebeskind, like many famous architects including Gehry and Calatrava, can often breathe new life into institutions through their work. They generate interest, spark conversation and often invigorate fundraising and philanthropy. The buildings are often regarded as sculptural objects in and of themselves. The "Bilbao Effect" is very real.

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

I find that I like everything in this thread on the principle that at least people are trying to do something interesting.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Noggin Monkey posted:

Some bad opinions on architecture ITT. Some of this is right on but a lot of these buildings are totally unremarkable.

That looks like a completely normal contemporary museum space. I don't think you really get architecture.

I didn't like Liebeskind's work until I visited the Denver Musuem of Art. It's not efficient at all (and sometimes makes people experience vertigo) butthey really get the craft and execute incredibly well.

Liebeskind, like many famous architects including Gehry and Calatrava, can often breathe new life into institutions through their work. They generate interest, spark conversation and often invigorate fundraising and philanthropy.The buildings are often regarded as sculptural objects in and of themselves. The "Bilbao Effect" is very real.

:circlefap:

Jesus dude.

A museum should not be full of oddly angled, poorly laid out empty spaces. If you want a sculpture, make a sculpture. Don't ruin public spaces in the name of pretentiousness.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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On the other hand it definitely got the ROM noticed when before it largely blended in to the Medieval Gothic University of Toronto campus.

Anza Borrego
Feb 11, 2005

Ovis canadensis nelsoni

Frosted Flake posted:

:circlefap:

Jesus dude.

A museum should not be full of oddly angled, poorly laid out empty spaces. If you want a sculpture, make a sculpture. Don't ruin public spaces in the name of pretentiousness.

Yep, because buildings totally don't symbolize the aspirations of a city, community or institution and are only machines for displaying art. :agesilaus:

You also don't seem to recognize that many of this buildings are funded by private investors and philanthropists who clearly have an agenda in mind. I get it, Liebeskind's buildings are wonky, but just because you think efficiency is king doesn't mean that they arent meritorious pieces of architecture. The Denver museum is also inefficient but still serves as a great framework for the art it holds. I'm sure the docents get frustrated but the last time I was there it was absolutely overrun with people whereas the original wing of the museum was empty.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Speaking of the University of Toronto campus has anyone posted Robarts Library aka Brutalist Peacock?

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO
holy poo poo it's glorious.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
that is the brutalist turkey I have ever seen

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

This looks like a season 1 or 2 matte painting of a planet the Star Trek TNG crew beams down to.



All the open, useless space reminds me of that old thread of pictures taken from one of Mike Tyson's abandoned mansions.

bartlebyshop posted:

This second picture looks exactly like Davis Centre at UWaterloo, to the point where I am 99% it was taken there.

The ATAC building in Thunder bay is a kit building, there are 2 or three more of them in Ontario at other universities. They are pretty much carbon copies right down to the crayola colour palette.

sat on my keys!
Oct 2, 2014

Blistex posted:

The ATAC building in Thunder bay is a kit building, there are 2 or three more of them in Ontario at other universities.

And here I thought UW had uniquely ugly STEM buildings!

Ogive
Dec 22, 2002

by Lowtax

bartlebyshop posted:

And here I thought UW had uniquely ugly STEM buildings!

I was about to post that that picture looked exactly like the Davis Centre. Instead, I learned something today!

I suppose it only makes sense they'd copy/paste a building like that around a few areas.

Vernii
Dec 7, 2006


This isn't a failure at all. It's primary goal was to enrage Frank Lloyd Wright and it succeeded wonderfully at that, to the point that he tried to get zoning boards and such to prevent it from being built.

Mr.48
May 1, 2007

FizFashizzle posted:

not checking to see if it was posted but behold, smack dab in the middle of paris



I like it, just needs a little Eye of Sauron.

Nut to Butt
Apr 13, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
REMEMBER THE BRUTALISM THREAD

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Not a single fucking olive in sight
I've heard numerous, numerous people say they like it but god this thing is a turd:

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Three Olives posted:

I've heard numerous, numerous people say they like it but god this thing is a turd:



Looks like someone left a Zumwalt laying around to rust.

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

Malf posted:

Aberystwyth University Arts Centre looks like this



In front of it stands a giant monument to stanley knives and some stairs to nowhere



And the library looks like this




Ugh

To be fair to both, they're 60's as gently caress and the additions to the art centre have softened it a little. If you're sat in it then all you've got is the view across the bay anyway.

Dr.Smasher
Nov 27, 2002

Cyberpunk 1987

Drink Cheerwine posted:

REMEMBER THE BRUTALISM THREAD

There were so many soul crushing designs intended to break the will of the humans occupying them in that thread

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Ogive posted:

I was about to post that that picture looked exactly like the Davis Centre. Instead, I learned something today!

I suppose it only makes sense they'd copy/paste a building like that around a few areas.

I think Ottawa U has an identical building as well.

Hometown Slime Queen
Oct 26, 2004

the GOAT

Noggin Monkey posted:


Boston City Hall has a terrible interior with few windows in the interior space, lots of concrete and hardly any natural light. This is a bad interior.



Holy drat that's depressing to just look at, imagine being stuck in there for loving hours

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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My basement is a better place to host a city council meeting.

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

I judge architecture on whether it would look cool in a sci fi film or tv show.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Fojar38 posted:

Speaking of the University of Toronto campus has anyone posted Robarts Library aka Brutalist Peacock?



"Meanwhile, at the Hall of Justice!"

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

QUEEN CAUCUS posted:

Holy drat that's depressing to just look at, imagine being stuck in there for loving hours

on the other hand i just visited the new DMV (RMV here) and it was lovely as far as that goes, lots of natural light, uncrowded, super efficient queueing system

MotoMind
May 5, 2007

Can we just make this thread redirect to http://fuckyeahbrutalism.tumblr.com/

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

MotoMind posted:

Can we just make this thread redirect to http://fuckyeahbrutalism.tumblr.com/

brutalism really feels more authentic when photographed in B&W

Nckdictator
Sep 8, 2006
Just..someone
The South China Mall

quote:

New South China Mall (Chinese: 新华南MALL; pinyin: Xinhuánán MALL) in Dongguan, China is the largest mall in the world based on gross leasable area, and ranked second in total area to the Dubai Mall.[2] However, it is largely vacant. Unlike other "dead malls", which have been characterized by the departure of tenants, the New South China Mall has been 99% vacant since its 2005 opening as very few merchants have ever signed up.

:bravo:

Also, it's hideous











Howard Beale
Feb 22, 2001

It's like this, Peanut

Blistex posted:

"Meanwhile, at the Hall of Justice!"

That's in Cincinnati (and is not a failure)

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Paul.Power posted:

Saying all that, if you do want some actual crazy architecture, here's Cambridge University's Churchill College. Built in the 1960s and 70s (as a national tribute to Guess Who), with all the architectural decisions you might expect from such an era.



My old staircase presents a typical example of Churchillian architecture. It maybe says something about me that, when choosing a college to apply for, I decided to ignore all the ancient, pretty central colleges in favour of Churchill. But hey, by Cambridge standards it's a fairly down-to-earth place, which the architecture probably helps with.



And it has some fun bits, like this Hepworth statue.



And the library and great hall have a certain style to them, even if they do look like giant radiators.

Churchill College is one of the only examples of brutalist-type architecture done well. Of course it helps that it's well-maintained and not in the midst of other buildings from better styles. At least from the outside (I've only ever been there on visits to the Churchill Archive Center).

Capilarean
Apr 10, 2009

QUEEN CAUCUS posted:

Holy drat that's depressing to just look at, imagine being stuck in there for loving hours

You won't be stuck ther for hours, there is no way there isn't a firing squad or lethal gas release in that room.

Lucy Heartfilia
May 31, 2012


Drink Cheerwine posted:

REMEMBER THE BRUTALISM THREAD

YES IT WAS GLORIOUS AND UPLIFTING

Saltin
Aug 20, 2003
Don't touch

Three Olives posted:

I've heard numerous, numerous people say they like it but god this thing is a turd:



I would buy droids from this place.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway

Nckdictator posted:

The South China Mall


:bravo:

Also, it's hideous













i've had nightmares about giant half cave half malls before

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Howard Beale posted:

That's in Cincinnati (and is not a failure)



I was thinking of the Stallone Dredd one. (Or was that the hall of Judges?)

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olylifter
Sep 13, 2007

I'm bad with money and you have an avatar!
Fun fact about the ROM 'crystal': it was supposed to be all glass, and they'd started building the thing before someone said "hey, wait, its a museum, if there's light on the poo poo it's going to fade it and eventually destroy it, thus negating the purpose of a museum". So we got aluminum siding and the odd patch of glass.

The inside is such a loving nightmare too. All the angles from the outside don't translate well into a workable space, so its just a nightmare trying to get around or for them to place objects. Typical of Toronto.

Example: our loving moronic City Hall:


Looks idiotic, plus the inside is hilariously bad: its divided into a front and back on every floor. Front has the windows, back doesn't. The temperature in the joint is all out of wack, so by the windows its crazy hot in the summer from the sun, and they crank up the A/C so the people next to it don't die: the people in the back freeze. In the winter its reversed.

The windows get so much sun that a City employee once famously grew a loving pineapple on his desk: http://www.thestar.com/life/homes/outdoor_living/2010/07/29/day_a_taste_of_the_tropics_from_the_comfort_of_home.html - I was working at the city when this happened, and I remember hearing that he'd been visited by the head of his division and the pineapple plantation was shut shortly after.

We could have had this instead:
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This was up in the design contest, it lost, and became the Imperial Oil building, which I think is unbelievably gorgeous and is now becoming condos.

Also, when they built City Hall, look at the beauty we lost: the old Land Registry Office:



So to sum up, Toronto is loving lame as gently caress.

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