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Hollismason posted:What the hell happened to River Song who's name I do not remember and never will. Like did she die or get de mirakued? Shado? The lady on the island? Professor Ivo shot her after trying to make Ollie choose between Sara and Shado. Or do you mean the lady played by Summer Glau? She got hit by a car and then.... something happened.
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Nyssa snapped her neck old school Edit: also I believe you mean river tam. River song is Dr who.
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Feb 22, 2015 18:38
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Habibi posted:From episode one to like fifteen. I thought he was pretty OK even then? I mean he was going out of his way to get Ollie situated and back into the nightlife scene and stuff. I don't think that makes him a terrible friend...
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Feb 22, 2015 18:40
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Tommy was a spoiled trust fund baby but he was never really a bad friend to Oliver. He was pissed when he found out his best friend was a murderous vigilante but that's understandable.
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Feb 22, 2015 18:44
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Edit: also Tommy, even if slightly douchey at times, was pretty consistent about caring for the people close to him. He was a carefree trustfund baby but he was a good person at heart, at least that's my interpretation of the character.Hollismason posted:What the hell happened to River Song who's name I do not remember and never will. Like did she die or get de mirakued? Alex Kingston is the Lance family matriarch and was last seen telling Laurel to kill anyone who stood in her way to find Sarahs killer. She's only appeared in a few episodes. Martout fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Feb 22, 2015 |
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Feb 22, 2015 18:45
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Amell posted to his facebook that he just got offered a job in a "super cool movie." Didn't take long for people to start speculating that said movie is a DC film.
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Feb 22, 2015 19:52
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enraged_camel posted:Except he didn't grow up by choice. He grew up only because daddy turned off the money faucet. If that had not happened, he would have been quite happy to remain a rich playboy for the rest of his life. I mean, that's sort of how it happens for everyone though, right? People generally don't change until prompted. Responding to a crisis by stepping up and growing as a person instead of clinging to your old ways is kind of the definition of maturation. He could have easily hung on as a rich spoiled person and begged Oliver for a room at his manor and just leeched off of him, and I'm sure that Ollie would have let him. But he didn't.
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Feb 22, 2015 19:58
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Scyantific posted:Amell posted to his facebook that he just got offered a job in a "super cool movie." Didn't take long for people to start speculating that said movie is a DC film. If only
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Feb 22, 2015 20:29
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I liked that episode. Finally got round to watching it. I was on edge during the whole of it going through the guest stars, I just managed to resist cheering when Manu Bennet popped up there. Also I love that A, the ARGUS prison has a big button that unlocks the doors, and B, that it is right next to the cell. That's just asking for trouble. Oh, was the ARGUS bigwig at the end of the flashback a comics dude as well? I forgot his name but often when characters get introduced like that they're already somebody.
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Feb 22, 2015 20:45
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Valeyard posted:If only He was offered the chance to replace Jeremy Renner in the MCU.
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Feb 22, 2015 21:14
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McDragon posted:I liked that episode. Finally got round to watching it. I don't think it was designed by ARGUS. Just put into use by them. Ollie says it in the episode that it was used as a prison by the Chinese before.
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Feb 22, 2015 21:16
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Hollismason posted:What the hell happened to River Song who's name I do not remember and never will. Like did she die or get de mirakued? River Song or River Tam? River Song is Dinah Lance, and is fine. River Tam was killed.
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Feb 22, 2015 23:10
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Scyantific posted:Amell posted to his facebook that he just got offered a job in a "super cool movie." Didn't take long for people to start speculating that said movie is a DC film. While I would definitely be down with seeing him as Green Arrow in a movie, I hope for his career that he gets some more opportunities to branch out from superhero stuff.
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Feb 22, 2015 23:15
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Scyantific posted:Amell posted to his facebook that he just got offered a job in a "super cool movie." Didn't take long for people to start speculating that said movie is a DC film. Super cool, super cool. Super. Cool. Stephen Amell is going to be in the Iceman movie.
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Feb 22, 2015 23:55
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I used to think Amell's acting was dead and uninspired. That he was almost emotionless. And I still think that, but only the first few episodes. The first episodes of this show were already rocky to begin with but his acting didn't help. It felt like some one told him "You're a cold unflinching killing machine hellbent on revenge." Obviously that's not even close to the case in the current episodes. Maybe it was just everyone (including the writers) still trying to hit their groove, but even going back now and watching them is painful. Which really sucks when you're trying to get some one else interested in watching this show. They don't see the appeal till almost 9 hours of the show. Which is a lot to sit through with the only encouragement to keep watching is me sitting over there shoulder saying "I promise this gets SO good!"
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Windows 98 posted:It felt like some one told him "You're a cold unflinching killing machine hellbent on revenge." He has said this is literally the case.
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Feb 22, 2015 23:57
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enraged_camel posted:Yeah, the flashbacks have been pretty dull, because it feels like the writers/producers are stretching them on and on simply to stay within the "formula" of the show. I think one season of flashbacks on the island and another season as an ARGUS operative in Hong Kong would have been quite sufficient. Yeah, he was gone for five years, but I think it's OK to leave a lot of that out of the show if they can't find a way to make it interesting. What's worse is that it's starting to look like they will drag on even longer, because I'm pretty sure the general dude is going to renege on his promise to let Ollie return to Sterling City after the debrief (either that, or something will go wrong, etc.). Well, the General said "anywhere in the world". I think Oliver is going to choose to go to Russia and train. Is there a Russian DC character he could learn from? Or it will be just general mob business I guess.
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Windows 98 posted:It felt like some one told him "You're a cold unflinching killing machine hellbent on revenge." Uh, yeah man, Ollie's whole arc is that by the time he got back to Starling City he was pretty much a broken shell of a man and had to learn how to 'live'/be a 'real person' all over again. I will grant that a little bit of the first couple episodes may have been Amell settling in (did he do much before Arrow?) but the character was pretty explicitly written to be off-putting and 'woody' that way. It's like how I've been binging through Person of Interest lately, and Jim Caviezel plays Reese initially very much like early Ollie. He never gets as animated as Amell is now, but once he's allowed to start dropping the 'I don't care anymore' mask it gets really intense. 
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Feb 23, 2015 00:05
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I'm assuming the General is going to gently caress Oliver over. At this point of the flashbacks I can't think of a reason why Oliver would choose to go anywhere other than home and when the General promised him that Waller gave Oliver a little look that I interpreted as "He's worse than me, I'm sorry." Someone has to dump Ollie back on that island. This guy struck me as just the rear end in a top hat to do it.
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Feb 23, 2015 00:06
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Not to mention he still has 2 years before he goes home.
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WarLocke posted:Uh, yeah man, Ollie's whole arc is that by the time he got back to Starling City he was pretty much a broken shell of a man and had to learn how to 'live'/be a 'real person' all over again.
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Aphrodite posted:Not to mention he still has 2 years before he goes home. And other than a little bit of training, he hasn't really turned into a ninja quite yet. Most of the jobs he has been doing required only a little amount of fighting, and mostly with a gun or just parkouring around. I expect his next 2 years to include serious military training.
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ashez2ashes posted:Well, the General said "anywhere in the world". I think Oliver is going to choose to go to Russia and train. Is there a Russian DC character he could learn from? Or it will be just general mob business I guess. KGBeast? 
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Feb 23, 2015 00:22
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McDragon posted:Oh, was the ARGUS bigwig at the end of the flashback a comics dude as well? I forgot his name but often when characters get introduced like that they're already somebody. Yeah. I don't really know much about him, but he's the leader of this group called the Creature Commandos, which are apparently not actually animal people as you might expect.
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Feb 23, 2015 00:49
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Feb 23, 2015 00:50
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Amell tells a really funny story about how he would yell at bad reviews "I'm not stiff! He's stiff!" I do think that Amell has grown as an actor in these three years, though. I can't imagine pre-arrow Stephen Amell nailing that "I don't want to die down here" scene that strongly.
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ashez2ashes posted:Well, the General said "anywhere in the world". I think Oliver is going to choose to go to Russia and train. Is there a Russian DC character he could learn from? Or it will be just general mob business I guess. KGBeast and Rocket Red are the two most prominent Russian characters in the DCU. The Russian guy Ollie meets on the Amazo has the same alias as the KGBeast so it mightbesafe to say that Ollie might be trained by him. There's also the NKVDemon and Vostok (of Aquaman and the Others).
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WarLocke posted:Uh, yeah man, Ollie's whole arc is that by the time he got back to Starling City he was pretty much a broken shell of a man and had to learn how to 'live'/be a 'real person' all over again. I actually thought this, too. It's clear to me he returned to Starling as this really broken, troubled person who'd been trained to do nothing but kill. He learned how to trust others again and opened up to Diggle, Felicity, ect. and loosened up some. He actually seems to have a (admittedly dry) sense of humor now.
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It's funny because everyone always says the first part of season 1 isn't very good but I'm rewatching it and it's kind of nice that not every single person is a vigilante/martial artist.
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Did Laurel say she was going to go to a law firm in San Francisco? And if yes, is that the first non-DC city ever mentioned by the show? And if not, ignore this as a sickness-induced fever dream?
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Feb 23, 2015 16:01
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Ollie has been in Hong Kong all season.
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Feb 23, 2015 16:05
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Yeah it's weird they used that fictional city where they put a lot of Jackie Chan's movies as the place for Ollie's flashbacks this year.
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Tupping Liberty posted:Did Laurel say she was going to go to a law firm in San Francisco? And if yes, is that the first non-DC city ever mentioned by the show? And if not, ignore this as a sickness-induced fever dream? Nope, they get mentioned all the time. First case that comes to mind is when Waller shows Ollie the dossier on where Deathstroke has been working.
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Aphrodite posted:Ollie has been in Hong Kong all season. No, it's clearly Madripoor.
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You're all right of course. I'll crawl back under the covers now. I don't know why it stuck out so much for me, though. Maybe because it's a US city that's not a DC city. Have New York, Chicago, or LA been mentioned before?
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Tupping Liberty posted:You're all right of course. I'll crawl back under the covers now. The pilot did have Tommy mentioning the winners of the 5 Super Bowls while Oliver was "dead," (Giants, Steelers, Patriots, Saints, Giants) so US cities are definitely a thing. And then there's The Flash, where Ronnie mentions to Caitlin in last week's episode that him and Prof. Stein are headed to Pittsburgh to meet one of the professor's colleagues as well.
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I'm actually very surprised that Gotham City has not gotten a mention. I know the Batman stuff is off-limits for the most part because "legal stuff" but The Flash got away with mentioning Wayne Enterprises on a newspaper. edit: Although now that I think about it, having an ongoing show called Gotham Before probably makes it a big issue.
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enraged_camel posted:I'm actually very surprised that Gotham City has not gotten a mention. I know the Batman stuff is off-limits for the most part because "legal stuff" but The Flash got away with mentioning Wayne Enterprises on a newspaper. It's probably because it is literally the name of the other show that they are not affiliated with. I guess that's the reason now anyway, probably didn't want to reference Batman too much back when the show was finding it's feet at the start either. I wish Ras had mentioned a detective at least, guess he still can since he will presumably be appearing sometime again soon. He feels like a very distant threat this season.
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enraged_camel posted:I'm actually very surprised that Gotham City has not gotten a mention. I know the Batman stuff is off-limits for the most part because "legal stuff" but The Flash got away with mentioning Wayne Enterprises on a newspaper. I really hate that DC won't let them do Batman/Superman stuff ever. I understand movies make more than tv shows but that doesn't mean they can't coexist. At the very least they should have let them talk about rumors of a Batman in Gotham. Is Gotham worth watching or should I just ignore it?
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