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ahmeni
May 1, 2005

It's one continuous form where hardware and software function in perfect unison, creating a new generation of iPhone that's better by any measure.
Grimey Drawer

echinopsis posted:

so im gon build a pc for my brother. its basically gon be browse, itunes.. maybe watch youtube?

is those intel chips with built in gfx gon be sufficient?

yup

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theadder
Dec 30, 2011


yes

theadder
Dec 30, 2011


THE MAC MINI

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
a good solution that costs far too much compared to a pc that would be an effective

theadder
Dec 30, 2011


a controversial view

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here

theadder
Dec 30, 2011


yes!!!

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
hes got a fuckin ipad. thats why he needs a desktop (not a laptop) because ipads are fuckin worthless hunks of junk

theadder
Dec 30, 2011


dsyp :smugmrgw:

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






just by whatever shitbox at best buyb becuas he won't appreciate a good one anyway

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
in the bo stank zone known as shsc there is a computer recommendation thread with good info in the op but my advice? get a decent brand laptop ex lease

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

spankmeister posted:

just by whatever shitbox at best buyb becuas he won't appreciate a good one anyway

best byob

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica
Just get a case that can house a full height pciex 16 card. If he wants to play rota or some poo poo a 750ti will work w most power supplies.

Why build though. Costco has good prebuilts for 399, with a 16x slot.

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
what's a decent docsis 3 cable modem to get? comcast has started charging me $14/mo for one. these are apparently all the supported ones http://mydeviceinfo.comcast.net/ but i don't really have anything to go on besides brand of which over half i've never heard of. ideally i could just get it no muss off amazon too.

tia

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

what's a decent docsis 3 cable modem to get? comcast has started charging me $14/mo for one. these are apparently all the supported ones http://mydeviceinfo.comcast.net/ but i don't really have anything to go on besides brand of which over half i've never heard of. ideally i could just get it no muss off amazon too.

tia

Motorola SURFboard SB6141

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

definitely this

i got the retail version for seven bucks more: http://www.amazon.com/ARRIS-Motorola-SurfBoard-SB6141-DOCSIS/dp/B00AJHDZSI/

(it has a warranty and the brown box one doesn't)

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica
I bought a fractal core 1000 per factory factory's recommendation. I just tucked a hard drive in the lower 5.25" bay without properly mounting it. There was some kind of piece of metal that looks like part of a mount, but I can't figure out how it works. Anyone know?

User manual was worthless. It just had the specs, no diagrams.

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

SYSV Fanfic posted:

I bought a fractal core 1000 per factory factory's recommendation. I just tucked a hard drive in the lower 5.25" bay without properly mounting it. There was some kind of piece of metal that looks like part of a mount, but I can't figure out how it works. Anyone know?

User manual was worthless. It just had the specs, no diagrams.

Usually those are pretty easy to figure out, just find the set of holes that lines up with the threaded holse on the hard drive case. it kinda looks like youre suppoosed to mount the hard drives vertically in that case, where the rubber gaskets are on the removable vertical piece of metal that attaches to the 5.25" drive cage

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica

Busta Chimes.wav posted:

Usually those are pretty easy to figure out, just find the set of holes that lines up with the threaded holse on the hard drive case. it kinda looks like youre suppoosed to mount the hard drives vertically in that case, where the rubber gaskets are on the removable vertical piece of metal that attaches to the 5.25" drive cage

I have drives mounted there. I was wondering if there was a way provided to mount a 3.5" hdd in one of the upper 5.25 bays.

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

SYSV Fanfic posted:

I have drives mounted there. I was wondering if there was a way provided to mount a 3.5" hdd in one of the upper 5.25 bays.

if there's not an obvious way then maybe not, but you can get a 5.25 -> 3.5 bracket on newegg for a few dollars

Dodoman
Feb 26, 2009



A moment of laxity
A lifetime of regret
Lipstick Apathy

echinopsis posted:

hes got a fuckin ipad. thats why he needs a desktop (not a laptop) because ipads are fuckin worthless hunks of junk

quote:

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SO DEMANDING
Dec 27, 2003

i've got an old shitbox running XP that i've been using as a glorified NAS for way too long and need to replace it. i'm aiming for 4TB of storage, gonna use it for local backups and media, dunno if i want to get a Synology or build a FreeNAS system.

i like Synology because they are literally the size of a toaster. they've got lots of built-in apps and stuff but i hear mixed reviews on those and you can't really just install whatever on them, at least not easily

FreeNAS sounds interesting because of ZFS and its ability to maintain data integrity. downside is the required hardware is much heavier than a Synology. Can get a cheap system that takes ECC RAM easily enough, but a full sized desktop vs. toaster-sized Synology, ehhhhh. might be better long term though, think it would be easier to upgrade down the road than a synology (toss in newer, larger disks, make new array, copy poo poo over and then yank the old drives. can't really do that with a 2-bay Synology)

so 2x4TB RAID1 in a Synology, or is it worth the trouble of getting a larger box to run FreeNAS in a 2x4TB or 3x4TB ZFS array? have i just been reading too many paranoid posts by crazy nerds rambling about bitrot? what do ya'll think?

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

SO DEMANDING posted:

i've got an old shitbox running XP that i've been using as a glorified NAS for way too long and need to replace it. i'm aiming for 4TB of storage, gonna use it for local backups and media, dunno if i want to get a Synology or build a FreeNAS system.

i like Synology because they are literally the size of a toaster. they've got lots of built-in apps and stuff but i hear mixed reviews on those and you can't really just install whatever on them, at least not easily

FreeNAS sounds interesting because of ZFS and its ability to maintain data integrity. downside is the required hardware is much heavier than a Synology. Can get a cheap system that takes ECC RAM easily enough, but a full sized desktop vs. toaster-sized Synology, ehhhhh. might be better long term though, think it would be easier to upgrade down the road than a synology (toss in newer, larger disks, make new array, copy poo poo over and then yank the old drives. can't really do that with a 2-bay Synology)

so 2x4TB RAID1 in a Synology, or is it worth the trouble of getting a larger box to run FreeNAS in a 2x4TB or 3x4TB ZFS array? have i just been reading too many paranoid posts by crazy nerds rambling about bitrot? what do ya'll think?

i have a nas4free box on a toaster-sized hp microserver n54l that is very needs suiting

i think hp caught on though because the n54l is now like $400 when i bought mine new for $250 in 2013

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

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and the top ten juiced up players

A Wheezy Steampunk posted:

i have a nas4free box on a toaster-sized hp microserver n54l that is very needs suiting

i think hp caught on though because the n54l is now like $400 when i bought mine new for $250 in 2013
i was just going to recommend the same thing. i got it in 2013 for $220 and that included a usb 3 external enclosure, usb 3 card and a 250gb drive

theadder
Dec 30, 2011



im the luxury

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

spankmeister posted:

just by whatever shitbox at best buyb becuas he won't appreciate a good one anyway

we dont have that poo poo here in kiwiland

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

chneers i went out of my way to avoid shsc and you bring it in here like an eager dog with a dead bird on your new white carpet

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
nah im joking i love you i should read those things

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

theadder posted:

im the luxury

theadder
Dec 30, 2011


thx

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

theadder
Dec 30, 2011


tempting

theadder
Dec 30, 2011


hit me again itt

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

theadder posted:

hit me again itt

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






echinopsis posted:

we dont have that poo poo here in kiwiland

at the general store between the sheep dip and hobbits dvd's idk

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
maybe i like the smug sense of superiority i get from building a pc

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






you're going to build it then he's gonna click on all the ads and get a bunch of malware the of will be slow as balls and unreliable and it'll be your fault in his mind because you built it

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
he doesnt know any better

theadder
Dec 30, 2011


lol

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Zam Wesell
Mar 22, 2009

[Zam is suddenly shot in the neck by a toxic dart; Anakin and Obi-Wan see a "rocket-man" take off and fly away, and Zam dies]
if u love ur brother, get him a mac mini.

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