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Well, time to put my plus account to good use. Demo looks fantastic. God this is going to be such a great game.
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Any advice on beating Jo in Yakuza 5? I've done everything else of value, but round 4 of that stumps me each time.
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Feb 21, 2015 16:49
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One thing I noticed in the Zero demo is that the boss of Dojima, Daigo's father, doesn't appear at all. People talk about him, but he'a always absent. I think back to 1, where the only thing he did was die for a very ignominious reason. Then afterwards, his character description was like "he's a smart, powerful guy who is definitely worthy of being a high officer for the Tojo group, really!" Also, as reverently as people talk about Kazama, he's still Dojima's underling for unclear reasons. I wonder if this bizarre gap between how people talk about him and how he behaves will continue in Zero? Dojima has been a bizarre mystery for me for the whole ten years I have been playing this game. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Feb 21, 2015 |
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Feb 21, 2015 18:05
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Just finished chapter 3 in Y4 and wow, the devs must've really loved Infernal Affairs.
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Just finished story mode in Yakuza 4, my question is: why is Kiryu such an rear end in a top hat to Haruka? I take her out to eat ice cream and Kiryu only buys ice cream for himself while Haruka watches, I go to Sega Club and Kiryu plays games all by himself while Haruka watches silently... What a lovely uncle
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Feb 22, 2015 04:34
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Man, five gigs for a demo. Off Sony's slowass servers.
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Feb 22, 2015 05:28
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El Hefe posted:What a lovely uncle
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Feb 22, 2015 06:26
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I'm about to play my first Yakuza game now that 4 is free, any advice? It's nor done downloading yet but I'm not sure what this game is yet- shenmue?
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Feb 22, 2015 06:32
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Actually Haruka's the one taking Kiryu out.
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Feb 22, 2015 06:33
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El Hefe posted:What a lovely uncle
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echronorian posted:I'm about to play my first Yakuza game now that 4 is free, any advice? It's nor done downloading yet but I'm not sure what this game is yet- shenmue? What Shenmue should have been. You don't really need to know anything to start playing but there are videos recapping the first three games included if you want
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So recently I got into this franchise recently and I've made it to Yakuza 3 and i think I've made a big mistake. I decided to play through the game on hard mode but because on that difficulty everyone blocks all the time fights become dragged out and boring. I'm thinking of starting over but I'm 12 hours in and I don't know if I can do the beginning again. Should I keep going or should I restart? Also does Yakuza 4 have the same enemy behaviour on hard mode?
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Feb 22, 2015 16:13
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Lucinice posted:So recently I got into this franchise recently and I've made it to Yakuza 3 and i think I've made a big mistake. I decided to play through the game on hard mode but because on that difficulty everyone blocks all the time fights become dragged out and boring. I'm thinking of starting over but I'm 12 hours in and I don't know if I can do the beginning again. Should I keep going or should I restart? Also does Yakuza 4 have the same enemy behaviour on hard mode? That's the reason why I never played these games on hard. Aside from the fights themselves I've always enjoyed the story in Yakuza. It's not going to win awards or anything but it's good enough that I want to know what happens next and stuff like that. Hard mode just adds another dumb barrier I don't want to deal with. I wouldn't start over though. Some people would just say hard mode puts hair on your chest. Men of burning passion. Believe in yourself etc etc.
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Feb 22, 2015 16:25
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If you die too many times it asks you if you want to change difficulties, IIRC. Also I thought you could go into the options menu and change it whenever. Anyway I never played on hard but usually if you're doing a lot of the sidequests or whatever you get to be so strong that the fights are all a joke.
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Feb 22, 2015 17:57
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 You're telling me this isn't a revelation opportunity?
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Feb 22, 2015 19:03
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I've beaten the game on EX-Hard, where if you die you go straight to the main menu, no continues. Of course, I only ever even tried it after I unlocked the infinite ammo pistol and just gunned my way through the entire game.
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Feb 23, 2015 00:04
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Since the free Japan PSN trial had Akiba's Trip on there I tried it out and it seems vaguely similar to, but not as good as, a Yakuza game. I mean obviously the story is nothing alike but gameplay-wise.
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Feb 23, 2015 00:10
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Think more a Way of the Samurai game.
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RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS posted:If you die too many times it asks you if you want to change difficulties, IIRC. Also I thought you could go into the options menu and change it whenever. There no difficulty select from the option menu. Does it at least get easier to break blocks? All the blocking the enemies are doing on hard difficulty is what's lowering my enjoyment.
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Feb 23, 2015 02:36
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Lucinice posted:There no difficulty select from the option menu. Why don't you just grab them then? Or use weapons? Anyway, eventually you're basically a tank using heat actions every 10 seconds so it's really not challenging at all. At least on normal.
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Feb 23, 2015 03:27
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Some good news for those that don't have and couldn't get a Japanese PS+ sub: The Twitter account for PlayStation Store in Japan says they screwed up on the date when the PS+ exclusivity ends. It will end this Monday, not Tuesday. That means that instead of this Wednesday in Japan, it will be available to everyone this Tuesday, which would be around Monday night in North America. That is less than 24 hours from now. 
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Feb 23, 2015 11:33
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RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS posted:Why don't you just grab them then? Or use weapons? Yeah true, al right I'll just keep going with Yakuza 3 and then maybe play 4 on normal.
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Feb 23, 2015 17:19
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The final set of battles of Kiryu's chapter in Yak4 can eat so much dick. Not hard, just an unfunny chain of stunlocking rear end in a top hat encounters where the dickhead with a one-handed melee weapon is more lethal than a guy with a shotgun and also harder to grapple with than anybody else. They improved so much in encounter design between Yak4 and Ishin.
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MrLonghair posted:The final set of battles of Kiryu's chapter in Yak4 can eat so much dick. Not hard, just an unfunny chain of stunlocking rear end in a top hat encounters where the dickhead with a one-handed melee weapon is more lethal than a guy with a shotgun and also harder to grapple with than anybody else. They improved so much in encounter design between Yak4 and Ishin. Kiryu is a goddamn murder machine I don't know why you had trouble with any of his fights unless you were underleveled. The Essence of Terror move I think it's the one that allows you to wipe about 5 full health enemies in a single heat move.
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Feb 24, 2015 01:31
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Yeah I am really surprised at all of the people reporting combat issues with Y4  - I really didn't have trouble until I did the Amon fight and did the final bosses the wrong way very stubbornly.
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Feb 24, 2015 01:47
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The only time I had a real problem with combat was in Yakuza Dead Souls and that was mainly doing the sewer missions until I reached Amon. I died to his laser despite knowing it was coming forcing me to do the sewer levels all over again.
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I had a hard time with the first Kurohyo game because I skipped past the instructions explaining that you have to put money into skills to actually get stronger and by like the halfway point it was quite difficult to beat the bosses with the same level of strength you start the game with. Of course then I looked it up and it was easy from there on out.
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Feb 24, 2015 02:23
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The trouble is with stunlocking and plain old bullshit idiotic enemies that normally would have been qualitytested out of existence, or is that behaviour of the AI increased massively for hardest? The game is very happy to let even trash cans have more health than chapter bosses. It's about psychological endurance difficulty. Sword? Big club? Shotgun? Fists? Sumo? Uzi? Tons of those at the same time? Piece of freaking cake. Baton? It's like that turns that NPC into a level 99 dickbeast from the thirteenth circle of bad design hell. Uninterruptable unblockable. Kiryu turned 15 just before the end of that chapter.
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Update: Yakuza 0 demos are now available for everyone in the Japanese store, but with different links: PS4 version PS3 version
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Neat article I found while waiting for the PS4 demo to download: Sega wanted to make a console with Sony but Sega Japan execs thought that would be dumb. There's an alternate universe out there where Yakuza became a first party PlayStation exclusive series that Sony-Sega promotes worldwide, rather than being chained to a sinking company trying to shift towards mobile games.
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Policenaut posted:Neat article I found while waiting for the PS4 demo to download: Sega wanted to make a console with Sony but Sega Japan execs thought that would be dumb.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I dunno why collaborating to make a console would have been any smarter a decision for them than how things turned out. It wouldn't have prevented the shift towards mobile games any more than anything else in the console world, I think. No but it would probably have increased the quality of Sonic games instead of being fed warmed dog poo poo all the time and would probably have prevented the Colonial Marines disaster. People getting sick of Sega pushing out poo poo for Sonic games and giving Gearbox so much money to fund Colonial Marines, thinking it will be a Call of Duty killer while they continuously ignore their other franchises that are actually excellent but choose not to localize for whatever boneheaded reason are why they're in the red financially. So sure, the industry might be pushed towards mobile games regardless but Sega wouldn't only be working on mobile and PC games and nothing else at the moment if they weren't so goddamn stupid.
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Wait, what would be the connection between Sega having a stake in the hardware business, and good Sonic games?
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Samurai Sanders posted:Wait, what would be the connection between Sega having a stake in the hardware business, and good Sonic games? Absolutely zero connection, if you consider Sonic Adventure 1/2.
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Sonic would still be doomed, but a lot of Sega's great Dreamcast franchises would probably have taken off harder if they'd been available to the far-larger install base of Playstation users (and Sony would no doubt have marketed them heavily).
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Samurai Sanders posted:Wait, what would be the connection between Sega having a stake in the hardware business, and good Sonic games? I just mean in general, they've made boneheaded decisions after boneheaded decisions and Sega turning down a partnership with Sony is just another of many examples of that. A Sega-Sony console would have let Sega have a slice of the profits from things like Uncharted and I can bet we wouldn't be pleading for localizations of the Yakuza games.
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There's gotta be some lingering executives in the company that are the source of every bad idea, from the Saturn Launch to letting go of Hyper-dimension Neptuna, because they believe they're in some sort of Brewster's Millions situation. "If we kill off SEGA, than uncle Pachinko will give us all the money we'll ever want!"
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Policenaut posted:Neat article I found while waiting for the PS4 demo to download: Sega wanted to make a console with Sony but Sega Japan execs thought that would be dumb. Sega decided about halfway through the lifespan of the Dreamcast to get out of hardware forever.
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Wow, that demo sure takes its sweet time getting you to the open world part. I'm used to the Japanese language demos being little sandboxes bookended by cutscenes but this was straight up the beginning of the game for about an hour. Some of this stuff they tried with the story presentation could be fun, the walk-and-talk segment with Nishiki felt like Team Yakuza taking a page out of GTA5's book but I'm not sure how I like those Poser-quality "manga" cutscenes. This demo's plot just goes on and on and on though, it's kind of exhausting when you don't know the language. I'm impressed that they went all out and let you explore all of Kamuro-cho. I'm also shocked it took 45 minutes of gameplay to get to the point where the game unblocks Share content. Kiryu having 3 different modes of fighting is pretty weird, I don't know what they all do yet aside from (I'm guessing) Blue = MMA, Red = Pure Striker, Yellow = Grappler/Sumo Guy. That Ishin sphere grid is kind of confusing but it's more fun to fill than the usual level up that the games had before, and I'm loving the idea of having multiple HEAT bars that you can stock and expend to nuke entire fights. Is there any way to skip the entire story railroading and get straight to the open world of the demo from the main menu? I'd play this demo again if I didn't have to sit through all the scenes and do the tutorial with Nishiki.
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So they really want you to buy the PS4 version because the pop up and LODs are crazy in the PS3 demo. Pedestrians turn into blobs unless they're standing next to you and I don't remember it being this bad in the other games. It kinda sucked that all the new playspots were locked in the demo but at least we got Kiryu rocking it at the Karaoke bar.
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