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Avril Lavigne
May 29, 2006

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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Yea the joke there is Venkman is referring to a demi-god as if he was a lovely one-hit wonder band or something like that.

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.




I'm just gonna un-see that and un-read your posts and go back to how I've always heard it in my head.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



i.e. as not a joke, good or otherwise?

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.



Data Graham posted:

i.e. as not a joke, good or otherwise?

The joke is that Venkman has absolutely no idea who Gozer was. That doesn't change either way you hear it. He still flubs a bullshit answer.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Pander posted:

The joke is that Venkman has absolutely no idea who Gozer was. That doesn't change either way you hear it. He still flubs a bullshit answer.

Sorry to sperg about this but Venkman knows exactly who Gozer was, he just finished reading all about him. Its just that there's no reason to get into the details with Dana because she has no clue about any of this occult stuff and doesn't really give a poo poo beyond getting it the gently caress out of her icebox. The "really big in..." line is referencing celebrity, that's how you'd talk about, for instance, David Hasselhoff and his bizarre success in Germany.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

(EDIT: ^^^^ Hahahaha, holy poo poo, I didn't even see you're answer before I posted this. I feel slightly less spergy about my reply now.)

Welp, I have to concede, I just listened to it, HD stream, sound turned up on Netflix (I don't care about what the subtitles say), and yeah... he definitely says 'Sumeria' and not 'Sumerian'.

drat, this whole time... I thought he was just bullshitting in a different way, saying "Gozer was very big, and Sumerian", like that's the only thing he could think of, since he just read it. It's like when you're not really listening to someone, and they ask you what they just said, and all you can remember are the last two words.

It also doesn't help that Dana asks 'What's Gozer?' and not 'Who's Gozer?'. Take David Hasselhoff for example (yes, I have too much time on my hands right now).

"What's David Hasselhoff?" "He's very big, and American."
"Who's David Hasselhoff?" "He's very big in Germany." (though, granted, this could be answered by saying that he's American, too)

Anyway, :goonsay: done.

EDIT: Full disclosure, this might be the nerdiest, spergiest thing I've ever written.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

what the gently caress is happening in here

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway
ghostbusters, like perry bible fellowship, has very subtle and nuanced humor

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Timby posted:

what the gently caress is happening in here

I'm bored at work

Kevyn
Mar 5, 2003

I just want to smile. Just once. I'd like to just, one time, go to Disney World and smile like the other boys and girls.
David Hasselhoff should have played Gozer

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Kevyn posted:

David Hasselhoff should have played Gozer

"Are you a god?"
"In Germany..."
"Then... DIIIIEEEEEE!"

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Rupert Buttermilk posted:

"What's David Hasselhoff?" "He's very big, and American."

That's, like, Douglas Adams levels of absurdism, though. "The blue thing shaped like a policeman"

By which I mean I made the mistake of thinking it was absurdism by reading the third book first. After I went back and read them in proper order I realized the narrative was actually being logical in its own way. It wasn't all just funny words written in unexpected ways for the hell of it.

By which I mean I see why you would read the line that way, but only if you misidentify the kind of humor they're doing.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Data Graham posted:

By which I mean I see why you would read the line that way, but only if you misidentify the kind of humor they're doing.

No matter how it's heard, the joke is still the same; Peter is pulling a quick bullshit line, lazily pretending he knows what he's talking about. I got that joke. And then I went and over-analyzed it here.

Speaking of absurd...

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




Timby posted:

what the gently caress is happening in here

people who dont understand the jokes of ghostbusters are worried for the future of the ghostbusters franchise

Icon-Cat
Aug 18, 2005

Meow!
In an attempt to make Rupert feel better, I'll mention something I was hopelessly lost on for ages:

For some loving reason it took me forever to figure out that the woman doing situps during the Roger Grimsby scene was Dana. I didn't figure it out until I was in high school, when the DVD came out and I saw more of the apartment.

Before that, I always thought it was just a shot they did of some random New Yorker watching TV rather than doing a closeup of the TV screen.

#GhostbustersConfessions

echoplex
Mar 5, 2008

Stainless Style
Harold Ramis 1944-2014

"I'm really glad I'm dead"

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

echoplex posted:

Harold Ramis 1944-2014

"I'm really glad I'm dead"

"It worked; thank God they didn't stop me."

AlliedBiscuit
Oct 23, 2012

Do you want to know the terrifying truth, or do you want to see me sock a few dingers?!!

Icon-Cat posted:

In an attempt to make Rupert feel better, I'll mention something I was hopelessly lost on for ages:

For some loving reason it took me forever to figure out that the woman doing situps during the Roger Grimsby scene was Dana. I didn't figure it out until I was in high school, when the DVD came out and I saw more of the apartment.

Before that, I always thought it was just a shot they did of some random New Yorker watching TV rather than doing a closeup of the TV screen.

#GhostbustersConfessions

Took me a while to realize it too. I've got your back.

Xealot
Nov 25, 2002

Showdown in the Galaxy Era.

Fine, "in Sumeria." It's still funny either way. There's this Elder God trying to gently caress poo poo up, but whatever. He was some Sumerian dude, or something.

Pander posted:

The joke is that Venkman has absolutely no idea who Gozer was. That doesn't change either way you hear it. He still flubs a bullshit answer.

Exactly.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Teefury weighs in today.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I know its just a general policy everyone should have but this will definitely be one movie to avoid all comment sections. Every rear end in a top hat will have their own retarded logic about why women shouldn't be Ghostbusters and they will also try really hard to make it seem totally not at all sexist/misogynist.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Basebf555 posted:

I know its just a general policy everyone should have but this will definitely be one movie to avoid all comment sections. Every rear end in a top hat will have their own retarded logic about why women shouldn't be Ghostbusters and they will also try really hard to make it seem totally not at all sexist/misogynist.

The closer this film gets to coming out, the more I'm ok with it (and I was ok with it when it was first announced).

I think a LOT of that, though, is because of how much it is driving these assholes nuts.

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway
I'm still on the cautiously sceptical side. It's no skin off my back if they make a bad ghostbusters movie and I'd love for the movie to be good and have a ton of sequels, but I'm highly suspicious and await plot details.

I just hate it when my opinion is closer to the whiny assholes side of things, though, and when that happens I'm usually proved horribly wrong. oh well, correlation isn't causation

Hemingway To Go! fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Feb 23, 2015

egon_beeblebrox
Mar 1, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



I asked my five year old nephew (who's obsessed with the cartoon) what he thought about the new Ghostbusters being all women. He thought for a second and said "It's their turn!" That was pretty cute.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

egon_beeblebrox posted:

I asked my five year old nephew (who's obsessed with the cartoon) what he thought about the new Ghostbusters being all women. He thought for a second and said "It's their turn!" That was pretty cute.

This is the best goddamned thing. His parents are doing a good job.

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Ghostbusters is very big, and the internet.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

For those interested, the board game Kickstarter has passed $700k, and the $750k stretch goal is the Boogeyman!

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

The agony of shitheel nerds gives me strength. The movie might end up kind of The Thing remake levels of bland or not bad, but I will remember forever the squeals of human garbage having to let girls into their clubhouse. It never gets old.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




Jack Gladney posted:

let girls into their clubhousefirehouse. It never gets old.

Boomerjinks
Jan 31, 2007

DINO DAMAGE
Frankly, this is what they get for whining for years about wanting a third movie, completely ignoring the increasing unlikelihood of the original cast's involvement and the industry's penchant for uninspired reboots and sequels.

rivetz
Sep 22, 2000


Soiled Meat
We interrupt this thread for no reason but to provide my favorite line in Ghostbusters, which has probably already been referenced in this thread:

quote:

Dean Yeager: Doctor... Venkman. We believe that the purpose of science is to serve mankind. You, however, seem to regard science as some kind of dodge... or hustle. Your theories are the worst kind of popular tripe, your methods are sloppy, and your conclusions are highly questionable! You are a poor scientist, Dr. Venkman!

Dr. Peter Venkman: ...I see.
I love the way that he carefully considers these insults for a moment before wearily nodding in agreement with all of them, i.e. "oh okay, good points, thanks." :xd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_vHbFQRT3Y

rivetz fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Feb 24, 2015

tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost

Jack Gladney posted:

The agony of shitheel nerds gives me strength. The movie might end up kind of The Thing remake levels of bland or not bad, but I will remember forever the squeals of human garbage having to let girls into their clubhouse. It never gets old.
I'm in the camp of "I don't think any reboot or sequel is going to work out," but I will gladly champion this movie if it means a bunch of whiny misogynists will scream and cry.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I want it to be successful because I get a good feeling inside when I think about kids growing up with the Ghostbusters just like I did. I mean I guess there's a major element of materialism/commercialism in that feeling because I want to see kids running around with proton packs on Halloween and a new Ghostbusters cartoon show and all that cash-in stuff. But as a kid I got a lot of fun out of the franchise and it makes me happy that kids would be enjoying the same thing I did, not some brand new poo poo that I can't relate to.

text me a vag pic
May 18, 2007




Boomerjinks posted:

Frankly, this is what they get for whining for years about wanting a third movie, completely ignoring the increasing unlikelihood of the original cast's involvement and the industry's penchant for uninspired reboots and sequels.

This is pretty much why I wanted a "true" sequel. I wanted to dip my toes into that cynical, dirty, slime-filled Ghostbusting world before the main cast started dying off and we ended up with a scary, dark reboot of Ghostbusters. I said that in jest years ago, but now it's all come true. I could care less about the all female cast, that's cool, I just wanted to see the firehouse and Ecto-1 and packs again.

E: RIP Harold Ramis, died a year ago today.

text me a vag pic fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Feb 24, 2015

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
I think that's also an issue, too. Up until Ramis' death, people were very much supporting some sort of 'sequel' idea. Either the original team coming back, an official passing of the torch, something. Even after his death the idea of a reboot wasn't too popular.

For the all-female team, though, I get that people might not be 100% on board with it. But the truth is that before the official cast ever got an announcement there was never any sort of proposed or rumored all-new cast that met with any sort of universal fan applause or acceptance, either. I'm not super thrilled by the new movie, but I don't know if it's the cast, the setting, or plot or what.

But to put this in comparision, if Sony had announced a new Southern-styled GB reboot in 2005 with Larry the Cable Guy, Jamie Foxx, Justin Timberlake and Johnny Knoxville, or a 2012 announced a college-aged remake with Shia LeBeouf, Robert Pattinson, Michael B. Jordan and Kiera Knightly, I'd be equally unenthusiastic.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
I get the feeling it's going to turn out like The new Robocop film where it goes in basically a completely different direction (and does it well) but all anyone will say about it is that it's not the original movie.

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

The thing that makes me doubt the film being any good is simply every one involved, not wether the cast have no docks.

Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

PriorMarcus posted:

The thing that makes me doubt the film being any good is simply every one involved, not wether the cast have no docks.

It's true. This man has no dock.

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PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

Crappy Jack posted:

It's true. This man has no dock.

Cheech Marin did.

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