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Cat Mattress posted:Bear crew filming the Typhoons that intercept them, with a guest appearance by a Mirage 2000: I like the Typhoon, it's a great aircraft, probably one of the most agile fighters ever made. I wish we had more brits here with intimate knowledge of them, would love to hear some stories. PS. Wasn't that Typhoon in the video fully loaded with air-to-air missiles? Nice of them to let the bomber squad know...
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It was indeed. And assuming the RAF still has three functioning brain cells, they have well-defined rules to actually use them in one if these intercepts. It's not all about taking pictures.
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Feb 20, 2015 23:27
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Everyone's favorite flying brown note had a brief cameo on last night's Archer.
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How slow can a Bear fly with flaps extended? Might be one way a bomber can try to gently caress with the interceptors.
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Feb 21, 2015 00:17
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OhYeah posted:PS. Wasn't that Typhoon in the video fully loaded with air-to-air missiles? Nice of them to let the bomber squad know... I noticed this with the most recent Flanker intercept video. It totally rolls and shows off the armament. Makes me wonder if a bomber crew has ever opened and closed their bay doors, representing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPRzh9pyEhI
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Feb 21, 2015 02:18
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Boomerjinks posted:Makes me wonder if a bomber crew has ever opened and closed their bay doors, representing That's probably one of those "well-defined rules" situations that Godholio was talking about.
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Feb 21, 2015 02:26
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Just being there, in a nuclear-capable bomber is the equivalent of pulling your shirt up. Opening the weapons bays is like drawing down and aiming at his forehead.
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Feb 21, 2015 02:41
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INTJ Mastermind posted:How slow can a Bear fly with flaps extended? Might be one way a bomber can try to gently caress with the interceptors. Honestly I don't know if one hangs behind or not, but even if they both pull up alongside, it would take a matter of seconds to get into firing position.
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MrYenko posted:Just being there, in a nuclear-capable bomber is the equivalent of pulling your shirt up. I wish we'd gently caress with them a bit more, they fly those things at us quite a lot. Sometimes let them them let closer, then Typhoons. Another day grab them in international airspace. Mix it up. Plus points to our pilot there, that's an airborne middle finger.
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Feb 21, 2015 04:23
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MrYenko posted:Just being there, in a nuclear-capable bomber is the equivalent of pulling your shirt up. That wasn't where I thought the first sentence was going.
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Feb 21, 2015 07:26
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At least if we did it to the Russians we could claim that we didn't *know* the cruise missiles had live warheads in them. There's a precedent to draw on and everything. 
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Feb 21, 2015 07:53
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If we don't know what we're doing the enemy surely cannot anticipate our actions
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The majority of US invasion plans are the words "CHAOS REIGNS" repeated on hundreds of sheets of paper.
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Feb 21, 2015 09:57
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I was at Duxford IWM the other week with my Dad and they had this Victor under restoration: Turns out he used to work on this specific machine when he was in the RAF.
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Agean90 posted:The majority of US invasion plans are the words "CHAOS REIGNS" repeated on hundreds of sheets of paper. One of the parts that I loved from Command and Control was when it explained how, for the longest time, the SIOP just kind of trailed off a few hours after the Go order. Like, they'd launch all the missiles, drop all the bombs, and then just sit back and go "... yup".
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thatbastardken posted:I was at Duxford IWM the other week with my Dad and they had this Victor under restoration: Amazing looking machines. Not enough about these days. Where was he based? You must have been an RAF sprog like me.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:One of the parts that I loved from Command and Control was when it explained how, for the longest time, the SIOP just kind of trailed off a few hours after the Go order. Like, they'd launch all the missiles, drop all the bombs, and then just sit back and go "... yup". I'm not exactly sure what else they could have done at that point... Although it's kind of funny that this giant apocalyptic war plan is an all or nothing type thing.
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thatbastardken posted:I was at Duxford IWM the other week with my Dad and they had this Victor "Now you think about what you did"
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Wingnut Ninja posted:One of the parts that I loved from Command and Control was when it explained how, for the longest time, the SIOP just kind of trailed off a few hours after the Go order. Like, they'd launch all the missiles, drop all the bombs, and then just sit back and go "... yup". You can't really plan for, "OK, forty eight hours into balls-out nuclear war, here's what we're gonna do..." All of the individual missions were planned to recovery bases, and at that point it's time to reasses, regenerate, and figure out who is left.
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thatbastardken posted:I was at Duxford IWM the other week with my Dad and they had this Victor under restoration: I haven't been up to Duxford in far too long. Seeing as it's like 30 miles away I have no excuse, either... I should fix this.
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thatbastardken posted:I was at Duxford IWM the other week with my Dad and they had this Victor under restoration: My landlord worked on XH558 (aka the last flying Vulcan) up until it was retired by the RAF so I'm forever having geeky chats with him about them, and I saw the last ever flight of a Victor which now sits about 3 miles from my front door [/shite claims to fame]
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RE: that TU-95 bomber off the Cornwall Coast Maybe some "Scottish" backed "Cornish Separatists" armed with a few old Bloodhound missiles should "accidentally" shoot down that TU-95.
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Speaking of Tu-95s, are there any on display outside of Russia? I haven't been able to find any museums that has one.
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monkeytennis posted:Amazing looking machines. Not enough about these days. He left the RAF a couple years before I was born, so my ideas of where he was based are a bit foggy. I know he trained at Cosford because we went there as well. I think he spent some time at Marham, and he got shipped around overseas a bit. Outside of working on the Victors he was mostly attached to a Buccaneer squadron - maybe 12? - which would put him at Honnington. I'll have to get him to clarify that for me.
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david_a posted:Speaking of Tu-95s, are there any on display outside of Russia? I haven't been able to find any museums that has one. The Tu-95 was very seldom exported (India got export Tu-142 maritime patrol versions, Ukraine and other USSR successor states may have inherited a few, but that's about it) so I don't think so. edit: also there was a link to an eBay auction of a Tu-95 in this thread a while back. StandardVC10 fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Feb 22, 2015 |
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Early Cold War jets are cool as heck and really should get more love, just giving a quick update.
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http://www.postimees.ee/3102053/suur-galerii-kaitsejoudude-paraad-narvas/3803981 American soldiers with Strykers taking part in the Independence Day celebrations in Narva, Estonia.  How come there are no permanents US Air Force bases in Eastern Europe already? Come on guys. It's got
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OhYeah posted:http://www.postimees.ee/3102053/suur-galerii-kaitsejoudude-paraad-narvas/3803981 I hear the booze is really cheap too.
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Mortabis posted:I hear the booze is really cheap too. Yeah, they are raising taxes on alcohol regularly but it is still a lot cheaper than in other Northern European countries. Wine is really cheap in Souther Europe, though, and beer in Central European countries like the Czech Republic, who incidentally make the best beer in the world.
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OhYeah posted:http://www.postimees.ee/3102053/suur-galerii-kaitsejoudude-paraad-narvas/3803981 You can't pork barrel overseas bases 
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OhYeah posted:http://www.postimees.ee/3102053/suur-galerii-kaitsejoudude-paraad-narvas/3803981 And the CV-90 magical mystery tour setup a couple of pics later. Another NL mech battalion bites the dust, the vehicles are being sold to Estonia.
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The entire brigade is going mech to "motorised" iirc. Which is code for we're selling your ifvs and you'll use whatever wheeled stuff we have left lying around. Not that I have a better plan for what the hell to do with our armed forces.
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OhYeah posted:beer in Central European countries like the Czech Republic, who incidentally make the best beer in the world. qft buying a liter of beer for the equivalent of $1 and having it be also be some of the best beer in the world is an absolute delight
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The US Air Force will never open a new base. At most you'll see a partial takeover of existing airports (Kandahar, etc). And BRAC seems hell bent on killing every cool base in existence, while keeping places like Tinker and Cannon. RIP fun USAFE.
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Godholio posted:The US Air Force will never open a new base. At most you'll see a partial takeover of existing airports (Kandahar, etc). And BRAC seems hell bent on killing every cool base in existence, while keeping places like Tinker and Cannon. RIP fun USAFE. Don't forget places like this: http://www.edelweisslodgeandresort.com/ http://www.thenewsanno.com/ http://www.dragonhilllodge.com/WP/ BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Feb 24, 2015 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Don't forget places like this: These are why people enlist for services. But they're not realistic assignments for anyone...meanwhile over a dozen bases in Germany and England are gone, Clark's gone, AF and Army bases are being consolidated and basically keeping the worst traits of each, etc. I'd actually love to know the last time the USAF laid down a new runway for a new permanent base.
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http://www.dailysabah.com/nation/2015/02/24/two-f4-fighter-jets-belonging-to-turkish-air-force-crash-in-eastern-turkey Two Turkish F-4s down, all pilots reported dead. quote:On Tuesday night, four pillots were killed after two F-4 fighter jets belonging to the Turkish Air Force crashed near the Malatya province in eastern Turkey.
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Godholio posted:I'd actually love to know the last time the USAF laid down a new runway for a new permanent base. It was probably Comiso in southern Sicily. Went operational in May '83, closed in '91...it's an Italian regional airport now.
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Has anyone else seen this theory on where MH 370 went? I'm not familiar with the plane or the systems described to know how much of what he's saying is plausible or not. Anyone else? Putin hijacking a plane to be a dick/thumb his nose at the west sounds pretty plausible though.
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