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Venture Brothers is a day-dream/nightmare of Jonas Sr. as he stands pre-coitus before a naked woman (Rusty's potential mom) and thinks about the consequences of his actions. Once the series ends, the last thing you see is Jonas deciding to not go ahead with it and instead ends up loving Col. Gentleman.
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I want to believe the sovereign is actually Jonas Venture Sr.
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Feb 18, 2015 18:34
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Lord Frisk posted:I want to believe the sovereign is actually Jonas Venture Sr. Was.
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Feb 18, 2015 19:10
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Machai posted:Venture Brothers is a day-dream/nightmare of Jonas Sr. as he stands pre-coitus before a naked woman (Rusty's potential mom) and thinks about the consequences of his actions. Once the series ends, the last thing you see is Jonas deciding to not go ahead with it and instead ends up loving Col. Gentleman. Invert it. Day dreams about what would happen if he hosed a woman instead of Col. Gentleman, decides having a kid is a good idea
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Feb 18, 2015 19:34
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Sash! posted:decides having a kid is a good idea But only because rusty will outlive him in order to build the teleporter that saves the world
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Feb 18, 2015 21:19
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Pope Guilty posted:Was. My favorite joke in the whole special was that scene.
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Feb 18, 2015 21:38
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reignofevil posted:I don't have any complete answers but I think they were trying to get across that Dean has been left mentally unwell by his lifestyle and that sometimes that manifests in little breaks from reality; even if it hasn't happened on camera since. One parallel I would draw would be with the episode in season 4 where Dean is learning to become a super scientist through Progressive Rock and has a very similar type of fantasy while searching for inspiration. I always kinda thought it also had something to do with the general mechanical chaos going on in the engine room at the time. As Dean goes down there, a panicking henchman is saying something about taking a report to the bridge, and then Dean bashes a bunch of pipes in with a giant wrench. So Dean's general tendency toward flights of fantasy + light asphyxia = exciting adventure dream.
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Feb 19, 2015 04:33
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I'm the dumb guy who never noticed before that at the start of the finale of season 5, Vatred tells the boys he is going to burn down the compound then laughs that he's joking to prepare them for the worst case scenario. At the end of the episode, he accidentally burns down The Monarch's house instead, and in the Gargantua 2 special he's essentially responsible for the compound burning down anyway. Edit: I also just realized that by removing the ATRE part of his tattoo, he's now Sergeant VD 
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Feb 19, 2015 04:52
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Lord Frisk posted:I want to believe the sovereign is actually Jonas Venture Sr. Headcanon, until a future episode proves me wrong. So a couple years, at least.
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Feb 19, 2015 05:09
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Nothus Infelix posted:Headcanon, until a future episode proves me wrong. So a couple years, at least. The episode that confirms this is very good, and a return to form in many ways- but I'm uncomfortable with the stab they took at President Charlotte Clinton.
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Feb 19, 2015 07:33
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I'm going to go with that the eagle shot at the end was a random eagle and not the sovereign.
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It's sort of pointless to speculate when I know the guys don't really have a plan going forward, but I took all of the Sovereign stuff at face value that they had just run that part of the show into the ground and wanted out. Cramming it all into one episode, him being cornered and ousted, him not actually being Bowie, and his death, just seemed to be the VB way to say that we're done with this character now. I'd be willing to believe that he was important in the lore and history of the show and might get mentioned again in some sort of greater context, but moving forward my guess is that he is no longer relevant at all.
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Feb 20, 2015 05:38
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The Thing the latest episode tried to express is that the Sovereign is (or was) no more "above" the general atmosphere of failure and frustration than anyone else on the show (except maybe Killenger). They did the same for JJ.
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Feb 20, 2015 05:40
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And while JJ dies heroically, the Sovereign dies ignominiously, where nobody will likely find the body or even know he's really dead. All that work and all those years of building and it ends with a random gunshot.
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Feb 20, 2015 05:42
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DoctorWhat posted:The Thing the latest episode tried to express is that the Sovereign is (or was) no more "above" the general atmosphere of failure and frustration than anyone else on the show (except maybe Killenger). They did the same for JJ. It was interesting that he had no actual plan. At first it seemed like he might be legitimately planning something, but it turned out he was just scared and flailing.
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I want to believe they did that "the Sovereign is not actually David Bowie" stuff to allow for the real David Bowie (voiced by David Bowie) to appear and kill the impostor. Why would you ruin such a great running joke if you are not doing a plot twist?
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fspades posted:I want to believe they did that "the Sovereign is not actually David Bowie" stuff to allow for the real David Bowie (voiced by David Bowie) to appear and kill the impostor. Why would you ruin such a great running joke if you are not doing a plot twist? This: ultramiraculous posted:It was interesting that he had no actual plan. At first it seemed like he might be legitimately planning something, but it turned out he was just scared and flailing. He was just a loser on borrowed time.
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You know who else is flailing with no actual plan? Doc & Jackson.
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Entropic posted:You know who else is flailing with no actual plan? Doc & Jackson. You shut your dirty mouth every single detail has been meticulously planned out since 2002
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Earnestly posted:You shut your dirty mouth every single detail has been meticulously planned out since 2002 This is actually true. However the plan is as follows: Step 1. Make an amazing cartoon
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Ror posted:Cramming it all into one episode, him being cornered and ousted, him not actually being Bowie, and his death, just seemed to be the VB way to say that we're done with this character now. fspades posted:I want to believe they did that "the Sovereign is not actually David Bowie" stuff to allow for the real David Bowie (voiced by David Bowie) to appear and kill the impostor. Why would you ruin such a great running joke if you are not doing a plot twist? With no body found, will anyone really believe that Sovereign is dead, or will they forever be stuck worrying about his return?
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Feb 20, 2015 22:52
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Didn't they explain it in the special that he was just a loser who shape shifted into what he really wanted to be?
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I just laughed a lot after reading what "A Mother Right: The Elizabeth Morgan Story"" is and remembering rusty was turned on by it.
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So is there actually any word when the next episode is airing or are they deliberately being vague again with "Early 2015"?
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Well, we know Rick and Morty SEASON TWO OUT THIS SUMMER. THIS. SUMMER. SUMMER 2015. I do not see Adult Swim overlapping new airings of Venture Bros. and Rick and Morty. So, unless it ends up being May for Venture Bros, I would not expect it until fall.
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I'm starting to wonder if it'll be 2015.
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I'm starting to wonder if it'll be 2016.
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Feb 24, 2015 01:33
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Got my Venture Bros hoodie. This thing is comfy as hell.
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Wait, do we actually believe a new season is airing this year?
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I never believe a new season is airing until I've watched it in its entirety.
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Everyone needs to embrace Venture Zen and just accept that episodes will air as they are meant to air. Fretting about time is wasteful.
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ultramiraculous posted:Everyone needs to embrace Venture Zen and just accept that episodes will air as they are meant to air. Fretting about time is wasteful. This is really the only way to go. New episodes are great when they happen, but otherwise don't worry about it.
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My only problem with this show is that whenever new episodes come out I've completely forgotten what happened in the last season.
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Entropic posted:My only problem with this show is that whenever new episodes come out I've completely forgotten what happened in the last season. Sounds like a good excuse for a rewatch!
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Entropic posted:My only problem with this show is that whenever new episodes come out I've completely forgotten what happened in the last season. That was about 3 seasons back, otherwise known as 9 years ago. (mid-2006) (can't count season 6 until it gets here, after all)
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So what you're saying is... the gaps between seasons are artificial and are only there to make you buy the DVDs to rewatch?
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How many Yaz albums do you have on this thing?
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feedmyleg posted:So what you're saying is... the gaps between seasons are artificial and are only there to make you buy the DVDs to rewatch? Still overthinking it.
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drrockso20 posted:How many Yaz albums do you have on this thing? Another Yaz album actually came out since that episode aired. The third in 30 years. It could be worse, is what I'm saying.
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Jerusalem posted:This is actually true. However the plan is as follows: Step 2: gently caress the fans and their bitching we'll make them wait longer for the next season now. Step 3: Profit
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