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Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Geight posted:

I don't accept any interpretation that involves Jacket failing to kill anyone.

so biker is dead and it's all a dream?

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Butt Ghost
Nov 23, 2013

Some people interpret it as Biker winning, but Jacket only going into a coma when he gets his head smashed in. That's why all the trippy poo poo happens for a while, and why he imagines his head blowing up before waking up in the hospital.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010
Yeah while Jacket/Biker's head gets turned into complete paste when they lose the fight Hotline Miami is not exactly a game with a reliable, stable narrarator. :v:


MonsterEnvy posted:

I think Jacket fails to kill Biker and they both survive their encounter makes the most sense. After learning that Biker is still around and Jacket failed, but is not dead himself. They fear he may have caught on or be working with Biker or something. So they send Richter to kill him.

Both Biker and Jacket are rather Crazy. (Jacket more so.) So it's possible through delusion one of them thought the other was dead when they were not.


That would make sense to me. Since 50 Blessings hitmen seemed to only be managed by the two janitors they might just not have gotten around to getting Richter to kill Jacket for awhile.


Also Beard comments that "Something really bad happened tonight..." if you talk to him in the bar after Neighbours.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Geight posted:

I don't accept any interpretation that involves Jacket failing to kill anyone.
And you think Biker's gonna lose to a guy who grabs a golf club after seeing him? When he was holding knives as Jacket entered the room?

If one of them had to win, my money is on Biker, just because he's got the throwing weapons that are quicker to draw.

But then, the way it's presented from Jacket's perspective makes it seem like an easy win for Jacket...

Drunken Baker
Feb 3, 2015

VODKA STYLE DRINK
I've read mujltiple guides about getting A+ rankings, but I seem to be doing something wrong, maybe. I'm not sure.

For example in Decedance my highest score is an A. I've tried using the bigger combo mask, using Carl and drilling everyone then I saw a youtube video with a Rooster only run getting an A+ and I don't seem to be doing anything hugely different.

I read somewhere that mixing up kills helps, so I lashed on the Octopus mask to get more melee weapons but still, the highest I've gotten is an A.

When I get home I'm also going to see if I can find like, a guide that will tell me what score to aim for so I can just restart a mission without having to quit out after the score screen too. That got annoying after 10 runs.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

Exposure adds quite a bit to your score - killing people without them seeing you gets you less points than butchering a horde of russians all running towards you. I think your best bet is chaining long combos with melee weapons, though, which means you want the Frog mask.

I did a run a while back where I went through each floor of each level in unbroken melee chains, except where basically forced to use guns. It's surprisingly doable, you just need to plan your route and realise that if you need to extend your combo you can throw your weapon to add another hit and reset the timeout.

Inexplicable Humblebrag fucked around with this message at 11:52 on Feb 23, 2015

Ledgy
Aug 1, 2013

Up against the wall

ChogsEnhour posted:

I've read mujltiple guides about getting A+ rankings, but I seem to be doing something wrong, maybe. I'm not sure.

For example in Decedance my highest score is an A. I've tried using the bigger combo mask, using Carl and drilling everyone then I saw a youtube video with a Rooster only run getting an A+ and I don't seem to be doing anything hugely different.

I read somewhere that mixing up kills helps, so I lashed on the Octopus mask to get more melee weapons but still, the highest I've gotten is an A.

When I get home I'm also going to see if I can find like, a guide that will tell me what score to aim for so I can just restart a mission without having to quit out after the score screen too. That got annoying after 10 runs.

Use Zack, and chain these kills. Route the level, and be sure to have at least a russian to kill every 4 seconds. I think you can get up to a 12x in that level, and if you get it that's almost a guaranteed A+. Be fast, be brutal. If you have to execute a guy, try to find a melee weapon first.

EDIT: I sound like the hobo at the start of the game

Ledgy fucked around with this message at 11:59 on Feb 23, 2015

Drunken Baker
Feb 3, 2015

VODKA STYLE DRINK
I got some insane combos starting with a knife and just slashing my way through a level. I'll give it a shot later. cheers.

Ledgy
Aug 1, 2013

Up against the wall
i modded the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRv-nGk92K4

DasNeonLicht
Dec 25, 2005

"...and the light is on and burning brightly for the masses."
Fallen Rib
I was really hoping you had somehow added a :psyduck: mask.

Edit: Going back and listening, though -- that mix is pretty hot.

DasNeonLicht fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Feb 23, 2015

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...


The first 30 seconds are the definition of insanity.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
New issue of the comic is out!

Ledgy
Aug 1, 2013

Up against the wall

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

The first 30 seconds are the definition of insanity.

I have my methods and I will stick by them :colbert:

Abyssal Squid
Jul 24, 2003

Anatharon posted:

Yeah while Jacket/Biker's head gets turned into complete paste when they lose the fight Hotline Miami is not exactly a game with a reliable, stable narrarator. :v:

Yeah, actual human skulls aren't built like water balloons so I take the spilling of brains with a single kick/stomp with a grain of salt. It might even be something as simple as "these 50 Blessings assholes see themselves as way more badass than they actually are, both Biker and Jacket." Like, I can see Biker's version of the showdown being more accurate but still wildly exaggerated: Biker downs Jacket with a flesh wound to the abdomen, then breaks his nose and some teeth with the stomp (instead of making Jacket's head explode like a drat melon). Jacket survives and limps off after Biker heads out, the clerk tells him "whoa you look hosed up man" but Jacket is in such deep denial that he thinks it was Biker's head that got smashed.

Abyssal Squid
Jul 24, 2003

Butt Ghost posted:

Some people interpret it as Biker winning, but Jacket only going into a coma when he gets his head smashed in. That's why all the trippy poo poo happens for a while, and why he imagines his head blowing up before waking up in the hospital.

Except after escaping the hospital Jacket returns to his apartment, which is a crime scene down to the chalk outline in the bathroom. It'd be really weird for him to have a premonition of the future like that, and head trauma can be nasty without putting you straight into a coma.

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.
Nice Watchmen nod in the latest comic. human bean juice.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

Abyssal Squid posted:

Yeah, actual human skulls aren't built like water balloons so I take the spilling of brains with a single kick/stomp with a grain of salt. It might even be something as simple as "these 50 Blessings assholes see themselves as way more badass than they actually are, both Biker and Jacket." Like, I can see Biker's version of the showdown being more accurate but still wildly exaggerated: Biker downs Jacket with a flesh wound to the abdomen, then breaks his nose and some teeth with the stomp (instead of making Jacket's head explode like a drat melon). Jacket survives and limps off after Biker heads out, the clerk tells him "whoa you look hosed up man" but Jacket is in such deep denial that he thinks it was Biker's head that got smashed.

It's kind of weird now that I think about it, that apparently 50 Blessings just stopped doing things for 2 years if Biker didn't take them out.

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.
Something tells me in HM2 they'll both be dead. I hope I'm wrong, though.

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Is there more? I need downloads.

Ledgy
Aug 1, 2013

Up against the wall

Manuel Calavera posted:

Is there more? I need downloads.

If you want that one, download this and place it where the game's .exe is. There's also a space jam version floating around.
I have another one coming up soon.

tap my mountain
Jan 1, 2009

I'm the quick and the deadly

Full Battle Rattle posted:

Something tells me in HM2 they'll both be dead. I hope I'm wrong, though.

I'm hoping the game makes the first game make even less sense, especially since the story is about people's misconceptions about the events of the first game.

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010

swimming anime posted:

russians are white. the white race. the game is about pixel people of the white race killing other pixel people who also belong to the white race. a terrorist organization of pixel whites killing a criminal organization of other pixel whites. NOT racist.

I wasn't poo poo-talking HM as a whole or calling it a racist game, guys, or else I'd also be complaining about the level of violence in it. I was just saying that the comics pointed out a negative aspect of 50 Blessings, an already negative organization, that I hadn't really noticed before. I'm aware you can depict this kind of stuff without condoning it.

"Xenophobic" would have been a better word anyways.

Ledgy
Aug 1, 2013

Up against the wall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3YyJGWgeDQ

I'm still not funny :v:

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ledgy posted:

If you want that one, download this and place it where the game's .exe is. There's also a space jam version floating around.
I have another one coming up soon.

Of the track itself, preferably an mp3. :v:

Malek
Jun 22, 2003

Shut up Girl!
And as always: Kill Hitler.

Galaga Galaxian posted:

Alright. Then lets talk about another awesome reason to get HLM2.



Wait where is this on Steam?

Ledgy
Aug 1, 2013

Up against the wall

Malek posted:

Wait where is this on Steam?

It appeared for a short while on Wrong Number's page and got removed. These two tweets confirm it's true:
https://twitter.com/OVERKILL_TM/status/569970023659401216
https://twitter.com/OVERKILL_TM/status/570227782153867264

Drunken Baker
Feb 3, 2015

VODKA STYLE DRINK
I'm still hoping for a level where you play as a young Dallas. This cross promotion can't just flow one way, right?

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010
https://twitter.com/HotlineMiami


The game is officially announced for March 10th now, and available for preordering on Steam!

http://store.steampowered.com/app/274170/

Do it now.

Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Feb 25, 2015

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
I would but I already preordered the 3 vinyl ultimate super collector's edition :krad:

Geight
Aug 7, 2010

Oh, All-Knowing One, behold me!

Zaphod42 posted:

I would but I already preordered the 3 vinyl ultimate super collector's edition :krad:

I really wanted to justify purchasing that, but I don't know where I'd store 3 cool-rear end vinyl records, much less how I'd find something that could play them.

Also the comics kind of directly show that Jacket is alive, killed the boss guy, and has been arrested, so don't hold your breath for seeing Biker again. :v:

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

Zaphod42 posted:

I would but I already preordered the 3 vinyl ultimate super collector's edition :krad:

Me too, but I didn't order until the second printing so I'll have to wait to play the game. :negative:

Speaking of, the HLM twitter confirmed that if you got either the Jacket figure or the physical CE or both you'd get the digital Collecter's Edition too, which has the digital soundtrack + Payday 2 stuff.


Geight posted:

I really wanted to justify purchasing that, but I don't know where I'd store 3 cool-rear end vinyl records, much less how I'd find something that could play them.

Also the comics kind of directly show that Jacket is alive, killed the boss guy, and has been arrested, so don't hold your breath for seeing Biker again. :v:

Dennis Wedin made a point of not confirming that directly, so who knows. :iiam:

Parachute
May 18, 2003
I feel like an idiot for not jumpin on that sweet Jacket figure, but oh well, game on in 2 weeks! Maybe it's time for a replay of HLM.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Geight posted:

I really wanted to justify purchasing that, but I don't know where I'd store 3 cool-rear end vinyl records, much less how I'd find something that could play them.

Yeah well I live in Austin where ever other person is a music nerd with a stack of vinyls in their closet, so it didn't seem so strange to me. :cheeky:

I wish I had an LP of the original game's soundtrack

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004
Here's the trailer for the Payday 2 DLC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxbnr_4OW44
Jacket "talks" via a tape recorder loaded with fragments of "language learning tapes, PAs and documentary narrations", which is suitably creepy.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

The Kins posted:

Here's the trailer for the Payday 2 DLC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxbnr_4OW44
Jacket "talks" via a tape recorder loaded with fragments of "language learning tapes, PAs and documentary narrations", which is suitably creepy.

It just occured to me how little sense Jacket actually makes as a Payday character. :v:

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Anatharon posted:

It just occured to me how little sense Jacket actually makes as a Payday character. :v:
Well, they've both collaborated on Wanton Russian Murder in the past...

Also, the Payday 2 DLC is actually free for Australian players if they send proof of Australianism to Overkill, what with the whole ban thing going on. So, that's nice of them.

tap my mountain
Jan 1, 2009

I'm the quick and the deadly

The Kins posted:

Here's the trailer for the Payday 2 DLC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxbnr_4OW44
Jacket "talks" via a tape recorder loaded with fragments of "language learning tapes, PAs and documentary narrations", which is suitably creepy.

I wonder what he does during casing mode. Does he already have his mask on at the start?

Male Man
Aug 16, 2008

Im, too sexy for your teatime
Too sexy for your teatime
That tea that you're just driiinkiing

Broseph Brostar posted:

I wonder what he does during casing mode. Does he already have his mask on at the start?

He wears a smaller mask.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

The Kins posted:

Here's the trailer for the Payday 2 DLC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxbnr_4OW44
Jacket "talks" via a tape recorder loaded with fragments of "language learning tapes, PAs and documentary narrations", which is suitably creepy.

Alright, taking back my standard edition pre-order to get this. Soundtrack plus... that. Yep.

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Malek
Jun 22, 2003

Shut up Girl!
And as always: Kill Hitler.

Broseph Brostar posted:

I wonder what he does during casing mode. Does he already have his mask on at the start?

I think it's just the masks and perk decks... I don't think there's an actual character.
But God drat do I hope there is. Those'll be the best pager answers.


Nope: I'm wrong. And this now owns.

Malek fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Feb 25, 2015

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