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My wish came true! I am so happy. EDIT: I want Uraraka to tap Bakugou and he just floats away. Cipher Pol 9 fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Feb 27, 2015 |
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It seems to be set up so we can get Deku vs. Todoroki then Deku vs. Kacchan. It'd be nice if it were less predictable but it certainly works
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Feb 27, 2015 00:19
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Fabricated posted:That's the only reason I think Midoriya doesn't get knocked out of the tournament, but I really just can't see him making it to the end the more I look at it. He's going to HAVE to blast someone. You don't think the main character of this shonen manga is going to win the tournament his mentor has tasked him with as a goal to win so as to announce his presence to the world as a step in following his dream and making him the public successor to said mentor? Seriously? Even if the probable match-ups for Deku don't work out so that all his rivals look set to fight him in succession that'd be a dumb assertion given the genre. As is though, the break down looks like it'll be Deku facing off against mind control jerk from another class (the only non-rival in the bunch, then Todoroki, Iida and finally Bakugou. Which is just far to clean a run through all declared rivals to not work out even if his winning wasn't an important step in making himself All Might's successor. And while Deku has only been able to use his powers once before crippling himself before, that's not a hard limit on his powers and not only can change in the future, but has to if he's going to do anything useful. This is basically the perfect fuel to help him overcome those limits, which he's already started to do as is. He'll probably win his first match without using his powers, but will more likely use them at least once a match in all following bouts. tsob fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Feb 27, 2015 |
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Feb 27, 2015 00:32
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I think we're gonna see a huge upset from at least one of these fights.
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Feb 27, 2015 01:01
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:My wish came true! I am so happy. She's mentioned having a new trick up her sleeve a while back, and I'm pretty sure she's gonna have to show it off against Bakugou so I'm gonna call it as making stuff heavier, instead of lighter.
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Feb 27, 2015 01:01
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tsob posted:You don't think the main character of this shonen manga is going to win the tournament his mentor has tasked him with as a goal to win so as to announce his presence to the world as a step in following his dream and making him the public successor to said mentor? Seriously? Even if the probable match-ups for Deku don't work out so that all his rivals look set to fight him in succession that'd be a dumb assertion given the genre. As is though, the break down looks like it'll be Deku facing off against mind control jerk from another class (the only non-rival in the bunch, then Todoroki, Iida and finally Bakugou. Which is just far to clean a run through all declared rivals to not work out even if his winning wasn't an important step in making himself All Might's successor. I can't think of a single tournament arc where the main character won other than the very last one in Dragon Ball (I forget how Z's went, to be fair, but by then we had power levels so those don't count). Deku might make it to the finals, but honestly I think it is going to get interrupted by the villain crew sometime during or after the second round of matches. TriffTshngo posted:Kirishima vs Tetsutetsu is one of the most obvious fights that's ever happened in shonen and yet I'm so goddamn excited. It is going to be the battle of the century.
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Feb 27, 2015 01:40
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red plastic cup posted:tail guy and that one nervous class B guy with the huge eyes drop out this is inSANEly hosed up and i'm penning a letter to the author about it right now
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Feb 27, 2015 02:54
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I'm thinking birdboy is gonna get taken out early, sadly, because he's up against a fanservice-ish character.
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Feb 27, 2015 02:59
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Also Momo can probably just make a bunch of flashbangs to make his shadow useless.
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Feb 27, 2015 03:05
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tsob posted:You don't think the main character of this shonen manga is going to win the tournament his mentor has tasked him with as a goal to win so as to announce his presence to the world as a step in following his dream and making him the public successor to said mentor? Seriously? Even if the probable match-ups for Deku don't work out so that all his rivals look set to fight him in succession that'd be a dumb assertion given the genre. As is though, the break down looks like it'll be Deku facing off against mind control jerk from another class (the only non-rival in the bunch, then Todoroki, Iida and finally Bakugou. Which is just far to clean a run through all declared rivals to not work out even if his winning wasn't an important step in making himself All Might's successor.
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Feb 27, 2015 04:15
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GimmickMan posted:I can't think of a single tournament arc where the main character won other than the very last one in Dragon Ball (I forget how Z's went, to be fair, but by then we had power levels so those don't count). Deku might make it to the finals, but honestly I think it is going to get interrupted by the villain crew sometime during or after the second round of matches. Prepare for Large Hardon Collider
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Feb 27, 2015 04:48
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TriffTshngo posted:Kirishima vs Tetsutetsu is one of the most obvious fights that's ever happened in shonen and yet I'm so goddamn excited. I want cross counters. Give me page after page of cross counters. Nothing but them slugging each other at the same time. The only acceptable ending is a double KO.
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Feb 27, 2015 05:39
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Hoping they pull a Hunter x Hunter and have Deku lose.
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Feb 27, 2015 06:00
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Fabricated posted:It kinda seems almost too obvious. Midoriya winning the tournament and going into the final games with the sophomores/seniors and making himself known there, accomplishing All Might's goal for him and also painting a target on his back because the villains are watching him now too. Strange for a series that seems to enjoy subverting cliches a lot. Easy cop out would be for him to lose in a way that engenders respect and notoriety from his audience ala the entrance exam.
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Feb 27, 2015 06:44
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Bad Seafood posted:Hoping they pull a Hunter x Hunter and have Deku lose. Well, that's not quite how that went in HxH's tournament; Gon got clowned, sure, but he still "won". Or are you talking about the stuff in Heaven's Tower? That isn't quite the same either, really.
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Feb 27, 2015 09:23
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Koopa Kid posted:Easy cop out would be for him to lose in a way that engenders respect and notoriety from his audience ala the entrance exam. That's a little too Naruto for me.
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Feb 27, 2015 10:31
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Roland Jones posted:Well, that's not quite how that went in HxH's tournament; Gon got clowned, sure, but he still "won". Or are you talking about the stuff in Heaven's Tower? That isn't quite the same either, really. Deku failing has more interesting ramifications than if he wins.
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Feb 27, 2015 11:00
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Vengarr posted:That's a little too Naruto for me. Having not followed Naruto, is this something that series does all the time?
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Feb 27, 2015 11:30
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Bad Seafood posted:Deku failing has more interesting ramifications than if he wins. I fail to see how personally. He already has, as the series points out multiple times, a good personality for a hero and is a source of inspiration for others already because of it. Failure here would only lead to him beating himself up for a while because he failed All Might, and then resolving to be a better fighter or pushing himself to gain better control of his powers afterwards, without any real change in his personality more than likely. He hasn't nearly as much to gain by losing as Todoroki or Bakugou for instance, since both of them have obvious personality deficiencies that are holding them back. Deku's growth is unlikely to be in his personality, outside of having more self-confidence. tsob fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Feb 27, 2015 |
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Feb 27, 2015 13:44
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Newfound resolve aside Midoriya initially didn't give a poo poo about the tournament since he correctly told All Might himself that 1) he's not into heroism to get famous, 2) doesn't give 1/5th of a poo poo about being scouted because he's already in possession of one of the most powerful quirks on earth and under the tutelage of the #1 hero. It's just that him winning seems too obvious I guess that bugs me. Unless the tournament gets interrupted but uggghhh I hope they don't do that.
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Feb 27, 2015 14:24
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I am less invested in what outcome it's going to be and more in how it is handled.
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Feb 27, 2015 14:54
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Fabricated posted:Newfound resolve aside Midoriya initially didn't give a poo poo about the tournament since he correctly told All Might himself that 1) he's not into heroism to get famous, 2) doesn't give 1/5th of a poo poo about being scouted because he's already in possession of one of the most powerful quirks on earth and under the tutelage of the #1 hero. I'm actually hoping that the tourney gets interrupted, but not by an attack or anything. I hope it gets interrupted for reasons that would normally delay a big sports event like very heavy rain, sudden high winds, thunderstorm moving in, something like that. Especially if we get a few panel gag of it seeming like there's a villain behind it, but no. It's just the weather.
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Feb 27, 2015 15:23
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Mindblast posted:Having not followed Naruto, is this something that series does all the time? Not all the time really, no. Naruto's exam arc had a big tournament as the final exam. The point of the exam wasn't to win but to demonstrate that you had the qualities to make a good squad leader (winning just meant you had more opportunities to show off). The only one who passed lost his fight, since he showed he was could keep a cool head, strategize on the fly and know when to bow out because the mission was a failure.
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Feb 27, 2015 16:22
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The Naruto tournament arc was before Naruto went to poo poo though so if this is as good I'm fine with that.
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Feb 27, 2015 16:29
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Something I just noticed: did Todoroki's design change significantly since his introduction in the bomb defense trial? I just checked the older chapters, and half his body was encased in ice back then, like some sort of ice golem. Now, he just looks like a normal dude. Was that ever explained, or did the author just quietly change it? I gotta say, what initially drew me to this manga was the great designs and expressions for pretty much everyone - I can immediately spot Deku and explosion dude, not to mention all the mutants. The girls are easily discernible, too - in fact, the creation girl at first only stood out because she seemed to be the only NORMAL one. So I'm not much of a fan of Todoroki. He's... got a burn scar, and a pretty expressionless face. Not a fan. Also that hardening dude, who seems to have no features whatsoever until he uses his power... Oh well. I really hope Uraraka wins, her power is loads of fun & it's always fun to see explosion dude get taken down a peg!
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Feb 27, 2015 18:16
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It would get to be a little much if every single character had an outlandish design. It's nice to have some regular looking kids hanging around in roughly equal numbers to the animal people and whatnot. Also, Kirishima's been shown to have a slight complex about his power because it's pretty generic, so I'm guessing him looking like a fairly standard spiky haired shonen kid is on purpose as well.
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Feb 27, 2015 18:23
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Torquemadras posted:Something I just noticed: did Todoroki's design change significantly since his introduction in the bomb defense trial? I just checked the older chapters, and half his body was encased in ice back then, like some sort of ice golem. Now, he just looks like a normal dude. Was that ever explained, or did the author just quietly change it? He creates the ice half specifically for his superhero outfit.
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Feb 27, 2015 18:28
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pandaK posted:He creates the ice half specifically for his superhero outfit. Speaking of costumes, I hope at some point we get more of the notes that the kids wrote for their costume design in one of the bonus sections. Not sure any would top Bakugou's KILL WITH MY KNEES, though. Maybe invisible girl's would.
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Feb 27, 2015 18:35
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TriffTshngo posted:It would get to be a little much if every single character had an outlandish design. It's nice to have some regular looking kids hanging around in roughly equal numbers to the animal people and whatnot. Also, Kirishima's been shown to have a slight complex about his power because it's pretty generic, so I'm guessing him looking like a fairly standard spiky haired shonen kid is on purpose as well. Oh, don't get me wrong, they don't all have to be mutants. The three main dudes (Deku, Uraraka and explosion dude - I'm bad at names) aren't mutants, yet you recognize them immediately due to their expressions alone. No typical dead manga face there - they're just so expressive! It almost felt like One Piece in parts, which I think is pretty much gold standard regarding character diversity. There's also All Might and his weakened form, which is incredibly One Piece. In fact, I prefer the more normal looking characters! Regarding Kirishima - yeah, fair enough. It's just that I honestly have trouble telling him apart from all the B Class students running around, which isn't very ideal. I could pick out Uraraka and explosion dude on facial expressions alone, but that guy? Hm. Oh well, they can't all be winners, and at least the character itself is funny. pandaK posted:He creates the ice half specifically for his superhero outfit. That explains it, thank you!
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Feb 27, 2015 18:39
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I'd say the designs are at least twice as diverse as in One Piece. I mean, none of these girls look like Nami, so that's a whole nother gender of diversity.
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Feb 27, 2015 19:49
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More importantly they manage to look unique without falling into grotesquely exaggerated features. At least half of Oda's characters are wildly off the wall (which I must admit works in OP since it's off the wall in general). If anything, I'd say Arakawa with FMA and Silver Spoon is a better example, by managing to make clearly identifiable characters without weird proportions, anime hair or particularly unique clothing. Even characters with literally identical features (Ling & Greed, Father & Hohenheim) are easy to tell apart. Naoki Urasawa from Monster is pretty good at it, as well.
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Feb 27, 2015 20:25
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Hitlersaurus Christ posted:It seems to be set up so we can get Deku vs. Todoroki then Deku vs. Kacchan. It'd be nice if it were less predictable but it certainly works Yeah, I'd wager its going to be Todoroki, Iida, then Kacchan. After Iida's speech about rivaling Deku they'll probably duke it out.
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Feb 27, 2015 20:33
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Torquemadras posted:I gotta say, what initially drew me to this manga was the great designs and expressions for pretty much everyone - I can immediately spot Deku and explosion dude, not to mention all the mutants. The girls are easily discernible, too - in fact, the creation girl at first only stood out because she seemed to be the only NORMAL one. So I'm not much of a fan of Todoroki. He's... got a burn scar, and a pretty expressionless face. Not a fan. Also that hardening dude, who seems to have no features whatsoever until he uses his power... Oh well.[/spoiler]
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Feb 27, 2015 20:42
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Gyges posted:I'd say the designs are at least twice as diverse as in One Piece. I mean, none of these girls look like Nami, so that's a whole nother gender of diversity. True. I remember that one part in One Piece where they got to Amazon Island, and it was full with unique female designs, as if the author suddenly had the urge to show he could do it... And as soon as they're off the island, BAM, back to Nami clones. It's weird. Twiddy posted:I'm fine with Todoroki being the dude with the more generic expressionless face. As shown, he's the character with the Tragic Back Story That Drives His Motivation, so he's got the trauma justifying him being dead serious all the time. As long as there aren't too many characters that copy the expression, it ends up distinctive to him and works for the comic. See what I mean with Todoroki being this manga's Sasuke?  And, sure, nobody minds genero face; it's just double confusing due to all the B Class students running around right now, and, well... it just falls flat compared to everybody else. It almost feels lazy to me. I hope I get proven wrong, and we'll actually get to see some expressiveness from this dude. I hope he goes totally bonkers when fighting Deku. (Unless he loses before that, because, hey, it wouldn't be the first time something completely unexpected happened in this manga...)
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Feb 27, 2015 21:29
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Feb 27, 2015 21:48
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tsob posted:I fail to see how personally. He already has, as the series points out multiple times, a good personality for a hero and is a source of inspiration for others already because of it. Failure here would only lead to him beating himself up for a while because he failed All Might, and then resolving to be a better fighter or pushing himself to gain better control of his powers afterwards, without any real change in his personality more than likely. He hasn't nearly as much to gain by losing as Todoroki or Bakugou for instance, since both of them have obvious personality deficiencies that are holding them back. Deku's growth is unlikely to be in his personality, outside of having more self-confidence. To fail here would be a good wake-up call, and certainly more believable than a kid with two, maybe three months experience besting life-long practitioners in sanctioned combat. It'd provide a good opportunity for him to reevaluate how he's been doing things. Better now than later with his life on the line.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:19
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I'm pretty sure Deku is perfectly aware he's barely hanging on, but he hasn't had the time to improve by any significant margins. That's why he keeps saying he needs to work twice as hard just to catch up.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:55
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Physically, yeah, he's pretty far behind, but that's a problem poised to solve itself. I'm talking about his mentality, his way of thinking, which he's had plenty of time to develop.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:23
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Bad Seafood posted:Physically, yeah, he's pretty far behind, but that's a problem poised to solve itself. I'm talking about his mentality, his way of thinking, which he's had plenty of time to develop. No it's not? He's been more than a quirkless who was bullied for 12ish years for like, 4 months dude. He's still a nervous wreck, but he's obviously getting better about it even in that time.
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There are a lot of ways failure can be internalized into a personal lesson, man, I'm just trying to give an example. We expect him to win because he's the protagonist, even with the odds stacked heavily against him. I'm just saying failure is an option and potentially a constructive one; one I wouldn't mind seeing. Even the classic "It's okay to fail, everyone fails" would be at home here. Bad Seafood fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Feb 28, 2015 |
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