NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:

New event is up. The first 76mm Sherman is allowed.

The Germans don't get a Tiger

FaustianQ posted:

I had no idea that Wehraboos would be so loving mad over a Pershing, I always thought such angst was reserved for Russian vehicles. Man it must suck to realize everyone else builds better tanks for a weight class

NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:

New event is up. The first 76mm Sherman is allowed.

The Germans don't get a Tiger

Omarmarious posted:

Anyone else notice any rebalancing in plans or tanks with this last patch? If any of you still play this awful game and play sim battles with planes I am looking for others to squad up with. I also stream on twitch every Friday night https://www.twitch.tv/omarmarious east coast time. Looking to be doing a raffle for a HOTAS joystick in the near future.

Fart Car '97 posted:

btw I stream here's my twtich and I have a raffle soon maybe and my only post on the forums ever is totally not a thinly veiled pitch to get more people into my lovely twitch stream thanks bye!

Rhymenoserous posted:

Omarmarious posted:

Anyone else notice any rebalancing in plans or tanks with this last patch? If any of you still play this awful game and play sim battles with planes I am looking for others to squad up with. I also stream on twitch every Friday night https://www.twitch.tv/omarmarious east coast time. Looking to be doing a raffle for a HOTAS joystick in the near future.

That guy bitching about Tigers and M26s in the official forums posted:

Well... you are taking this to far. Shall I mention how Typhoons were catching fire by themselves, how were also loosing "parts" during the flight like the whole tail? I can make a list of mechanical problems of all designs of all nations. People keeps telling we make bias but i only want to play fair, i don't care which nation, i play all. And still, since the new update, try to put a Tiger I into mud. You will see how fun it is.

But anyway the game is not about mechanical issues, it's about combat... And in combat, when Tiger was released, there was no gun which could penetrate 100mm. You can read this in any WWII book.

Of course when IS-2 appeared it was a formidable enemy (still, in the combat manuals they point out that 2 tigers should engage 5 IS-2). And of course Pershing was a good tank but hey, was designed in 1944... 2 years later when Tiger was ruling the battlefields they were in.

Azran posted:

YEEEEES


I said the following:

"If we're talking historical accuracy, OP, then of those 10 Tigers you mentioned 8 would have broken down before reaching the front - 7 of the T34s get knocked out, 4 get sent to the rear and repaired, and the Tiger tankers report 20 kills.
Then they leave behind two of their supporting Panthers because they tried to turn in neutral steering and their transmission caught fire.

Realism isn't fun, especially when you're trying to apply it only to one side. Yes, the Tiger was a good tank for the stretch between 42 and 43, but after that it got outclassed HARD by Allied designs. There's no such thing as innate German superiority."



He's also really angry at the idea of Tigers getting killed by Shermans when the Sherman manages to kill more than one.

wikipedia posted:

Near Unna, one Jagdtiger climbed a hill to attack five American tanks 600 meters away and below; two withdrew and the other three opened fire. The Jagdtiger took several hits, but American projectiles could not penetrate the 250 mm (9.8 in) frontal armor. However, the inexperienced German commander lost his nerve and turned around instead of backing down, exposed the thinner side armor, which was eventually penetrated and all six crew members were lost. Carius wrote that it was useless when crews were not trained or experienced enough to have the thick frontal armor facing the enemy at all times

wikipedia posted:

Insufficient crew training and poor morale was the biggest problem for Jagdtiger crews under Carius' command. At the Ruhr pocket, two Jagdtiger commanders failed to attack an American armored column about 1.5 km (1 mile) away in daylight for fear of attracting an air attack, even though Jagdtigers were well camouflaged. Both vehicles broke down while hurriedly withdrawing through fear of air attack which did not come, and one was then destroyed by the crew. To prevent such disaster at Siegen, Carius himself dug in on high ground. An approaching American armored column avoided the prepared ambush because German civilians warned them of it. Later, one of his vehicles fell into a bomb crater at night and was disabled, and another was lost to Panzerfaust attack by friendly Volkssturm troops who had never seen a Jagdtiger before

Feindfeuer posted:

Bonus hilarrity:

organburner posted:

goddamn I need to stop playing in the russian server.

First game a friendly KV-2 puts a shell trough my back turret.
Less than half a minute into the game.

Gee thanks, I don't even have any clan tags or any decals on my tank.
This keeps happening on the russian server, and if it wasn't for the fact that they are stupid easy to kill I would have stopped playing on those servers a long time ago, but now I've had enough.

Gimnbo posted:

To be fair, if the stories in this thread are any indication then Germans absolutely should be afraid of air attacks. Though I'm guessing that most of the time the victim is a Tiger sitting on an empty hill or something.

Gimnbo posted:

To be fair, if the stories in this thread are any indication then Germans absolutely should be afraid of air attacks. Though I'm guessing that most of the time the victim is a Tiger sitting on an empty hill or something.

Feindfeuer posted:

Even if you see a muzzle flash in the tree line, you can't be sure it's a flanking friendly unless you get a visual or have someone on the ground tell you via mumble.

quote:

Eager to make use of the powerful new weapon, Hitler ordered the vehicle be pressed into service months earlier than planned.[39] A platoon of four Tigers was put into action on 23 September 1942 near Leningrad.[40] Operating in swampy, forested terrain their movement was largely confined to roads and tracks, making defense against them far easier. Many of these early models were plagued by problems with the transmission, which had difficulty handling the heavy weight of the vehicle if pushed too hard. It took time for drivers to learn how to avoid over taxing the engine and transmission, and many broke down. The most significant event from this engagement was that one of the Tigers became stuck in swampy ground and had to be abandoned. Captured largely intact, it allowed the Soviets to study the design and prepare countermeasures.[41]

Gimnbo posted:

I can't wait to see what happens if they ever put the Sherman Firefly in.

Fart Car '97 posted:

ProTip: Strafe a target you can't ID with your .50 cals. If it's a bad dude you'll get hit RP/target undamaged, if it's a good dude you won't and youll probably trigger the "STOP FIRING" audio queue. There's like an infinitesimally small chance you'll track him by accident but whatever.

Thief posted:

If it's a gun truck they will probably shoot back at anything diving on them so its best to actually learn the differences between them. It's funny to strafe friendly ones though just because they get stuck there for 2 minutes while you suffer no consequences unless they somehow die from a fire or jumping out.

Dmitriy Loza posted:

The Sherman had its weaknesses, the greatest of which was its high center of gravity. The tank frequently tipped over on its side, like a Matryoshka doll (a wooden stacking doll). But I am alive today thanks to this deficiency. We were fighting in Hungary in December 1944. I was leading the battalion and on a turn my driver-mechanic clipped a curb. My tank went over on its side. We were thrown around, of course, but we survived the experience. Meanwhile the other four of my tanks went ahead and drove into an ambush. They were all destroyed.

Dmitriy Loza posted:

For a long time after the war I sought an answer to one question. If a T-34 started burning, we tried to get as far away from it as possible, even though this was forbidden. The on-board ammunition exploded. For a brief period of time, perhaps six weeks, I fought on a T-34 around Smolensk. The commander of one of our companies was hit in his tank. The crew jumped out of the tank but were unable to run away from it because the Germans were pinning them down with machine gun fire. They lay there in the wheat field as the tank burned and blew up. By evening, when the battle had waned, we went to them. I found the company commander lying on the ground with a large piece of armor sticking out of his head. When a Sherman burned, the main gun ammunition did not explode. Why was this?

Such a case occurred once in Ukraine. Our tank was hit. We jumped out of it but the Germans were dropping mortar rounds around us. We lay under the tank as it burned. We laid there a long time with nowhere to go. The Germans were covering the empty field around the tank with machine gun and mortar fires. We lay there. The uniform on my back was beginning heating up from the burning tank. We thought we were finished! We would hear a big bang and it would all be over! A brother's grave! We heard many loud thumps coming from the turret. This was the armor-piercing rounds being blown out of their cases. Next the fire would reach the high explosive rounds and all hell would break loose! But nothing happened. Why not? Because our high explosive rounds detonated and the American rounds did not? In the end it was because the American ammunition had more refined explosives. Ours was some kind of component that increased the force of the explosion one and one-half times, at the same time increasing the risk of detonation of the ammunition.

Feindfeuer posted:

Bonus hilarity:

Fart Car '97 posted:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it at this point it's generally accepted that, with the exception of rocket development, the U.S. had technology on part with Germany (and in many cases more advanced than what they had). AFAIK We had developed an analogue to pretty much everything they had from 1942 on, we were just smart enough to think "Yeah OK this whiz-bang poo poo is nice and all but let's just stick with the work-able poo poo we have and make 10x as many as the Germans"

FaustianQ posted:

The US had legit assault rifles in 1918

Azran posted:

Some of the stuff the US had was deployed only reluctantly due to fears of getting copied, like the advanced AA munitions they had been toying around with. (I wish I remembered more details about them)

Fart Car '97 posted:

Like doesn't the entire idea that Germany was more advanced than the allies really just stem from the fact that they were dumb enough to deploy their cutting edge stuff where as the U.S. didn't?

Taerkar posted:

The US developed some 'Super Weapons' during WWII as well and deployed them.

Taerkar posted:

The US developed some 'Super Weapons' during WWII as well and deployed them. The thing was the US ones didn't suck.

The B-29 project (which we also developed a backup bomber in case the B-29 didn't work) was more expensive than the A-Bomb I believe.

Taerkar posted:

The US developed some 'Super Weapons' during WWII as well and deployed them. The thing was the US ones didn't suck.

The B-29 project (which we also developed a backup bomber in case the B-29 didn't work) was more expensive than the A-Bomb I believe.

BadOptics posted:

It probably helps that we didn't lose millions of people and/or have our cities gutted by bombing campaigns like the Axis powers/USSR did.

quote:

Incendiary effect of all APCR ammo increased
Fixed thickness of additional side screens on Pz IV Ausf. E
Neutral turn ability added for Panther II, Panzerjäger Ferdinand and Bfw. Tiger (P) tanks
Spawn points changed on ‘White Rock Fortress’ in RB: they were moved closer to the center of the map
Fixed error that led to boosters not working in the last battle
Ground vehicle draw distance from aircraft is increased up to 6km
Issue with players artillery being destroyed at the start of an SB match has been fixed

BadOptics posted:

It probably helps that we didn't lose millions of people and/or have our cities gutted by bombing campaigns like the Axis powers/USSR did.