Leonard Nimoy passed away today. I read both his autobiographies last year and they were great, short and sweet and funny. "I am not spock" (1975) and then "I am spock" (1995), definitely worth a read if you ever watched/liked TOS. I remember in it him talking a lot about how much he would smoke and how much he regretted it
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A reminder that Luke Foley's big first announcement as Labor leader after Robertson resigned , his first policy announcement following a few years of Liberal party member after member being turfed for ICAC finding rampant corruption, was to... Announce that if elected he would lower taxes on horse racing so we could be the new home of horse racing instead of Victoria. An issue that had literally never been suggested before in the current governments or oppositions as a thing to consider, now one anyone in the public gave a gently caress about. Holy loving poo poo. It wasn't helped since with the dog racing scandal which, even though horse != dogs, has made gambling sort of a no go zone thus defeating everything else to do with the policy. Liberal are winning in NSW so don't be shocked in a months time. Also Dennis Shanahan posted:THE renewed attempt to panic Tony Abbott into a false step or force Malcolm Turnbull or Julie Bishop into an early leadership challenge is driven, in part, by the fear the Prime Minister’s position may recover. Ah Dennis and Bolt, the last two true believers. Hell I haven't even seen Greg Sheridan pop up to claim Abbott's rising like the reincarnated F35. Lid fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Feb 27, 2015 |
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Yeah, the only big policy the Libs introduced I can think of that has negatively affected New South Welshman was the lockouts in the cbd that has forced many small businesses to go under and close up shop, or bar staff having hours cut/becoming unemployed . ....and Labor was calling for that before the Libs were. Honestly on the state level to me, NSW Labor and Liberal are as conservative and corrupt as each other. Oh and the train timetable change that screwed a small number of people over. I'm not even sure if that's been fixed up yet.
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There's no good outcome from Turnbull being the leader come next election. Either he actually turns it around and they hold office, or they still get beaten and the wing nuts in the party like Bernardi use it as another example of why the party needs to drive further to the right(inevitably dragging the Labor party with them like a sack of potatoes)
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:Leonard Nimoy passed away today. I read both his autobiographies last year and they were great, short and sweet and funny. "I am not spock" (1975) and then "I am spock" (1995), definitely worth a read if you ever watched/liked TOS. I remember in it him talking a lot about how much he would smoke and how much he regretted it Abbott killed Nimoy to distract the nerds from the data retention laws
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Gough Suppressant posted:There's no good outcome from Turnbull being the leader come next election. Also I don't want Shorten to win the next election by default just because he's not Abbott. Labor needs at least some pressure in order to get their act together. At least Turnbull might make some overtures to the political centre which might make Labor re-think their current position as the Liberal-lites.
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Gough Suppressant posted:...(... a sack of rotten smelly potatoes) There are standard to be maintained in journalism you kno.. With all the varied and important issues requiring public examination you can count on one brave paper to really have it's hand on the..
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 00:11 |
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yeah those freeloading backpackers, how dare they bring their tourist money to Australia
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 00:14 |
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Lid posted:A reminder that Luke Foley's big first announcement as Labor leader after Robertson resigned , his first policy announcement following a few years of Liberal party member after member being turfed for ICAC finding rampant corruption, was to... Yeah NSW Labor somehow manage to be even more poo poo than Federal Labor, there is also the part about them saying they won't build the off ramps for Westconnex in the electorate of Newtown because it's looking like the Greens will win the seat. I don't think that is fooling anybody though. Anyway this has all been good ammunition against Labor voters here in the inner west, at least the outcome is looking good for the Greens!
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Cartoon posted:There are standard to be maintained in journalism you kno.. Alright, 44 pages on where to score some coke!
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 00:21 |
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Trapezium Dave posted:Hopefully we'll have less poo poo government for a year at least. The trouble is the ALP doesn't get their act together when under pressure, they just cave in and move further to the right.
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 00:40 |
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tomkash posted:there is also the part about them saying they won't build the off ramps for Westconnex in the electorate of Newtown because it's looking like the Greens will win the seat.. Hahahaha isn't that exactly the thing that everyone, including Labor, blasted Newman for in Queensland?
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 01:04 |
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aww bro
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 01:05 |
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I just check my phone and realised I had a voice mail from wednesday that I'd missed. It was an automatic voice message phone call from the Liberal Party, specifically naming Baird and my local member, explaining that that the elictricity privatisation was not an electricity privatisation as they would be selling off only 49% of the poles and wires and to not be taken in by Labor's lies. So that's a thing.
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MythLisp posted:Yeah, the only big policy the Libs introduced I can think of that has negatively affected New South Welshman was the lockouts in the cbd that has forced many small businesses to go under and close up shop, or bar staff having hours cut/becoming unemployed . I'd say that the removal of one's right to silence was a "big policy" which the NSW Libs introduced, but no one seems to care.
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xPanda posted:I'd say that the removal of one's right to silence was a "big policy" which the NSW Libs introduced, but no one seems to care. I had completely forgotten about that. The influx of completely poo poo policies from both State and Federal Libs is hard to keep track of.
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 02:26 |
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MythLisp posted:I had completely forgotten about that. So has the rest of the state, if they ever noticed. I only learned of it through this tread, I can't recall ever seeing it mentioned on any TV news program. There has also been the stupid hunting stuff which was necessary to get the Shooters and Fishers onside in the upper house, allowing them to pass such as the above. Also, what the gently caress is with Westconnex? They're going to start tolling the M4? gently caress's sake, you can't get anywhere in this city in reasonable time without being bled for it.
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 02:31 |
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Roads are the infrastructure of the 21st century didn't you hear?
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 02:35 |
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quote:Six private tertiary colleges in Queensland are among 23 across Australia being investigated after widespread allegations of students being tricked into signing up for courses. THE FREE MARKET
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 02:57 |
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Westconnex is the massive loving road project going through the Inner West of Sydney. Extending the M4 east to join up with Anzac Bridge / Victoria Road and extending it south to link up with the M5.Lid posted:I just check my phone and realised I had a voice mail from wednesday that I'd missed. It was an automatic voice message phone call from the Liberal Party, specifically naming Baird and my local member, explaining that that the elictricity privatisation was not an electricity privatisation as they would be selling off only 49% of the poles and wires and to not be taken in by Labor's lies. So that's a thing. I got that robocall a few days ago too I think.
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 02:59 |
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Labor aren't running in the upcoming Gippsland by-election. Given the choice of supporting a newly anti-Liberal and anti-CSG National party or their natural allies in the Greens, Labor decides to support... the Liberals. https://www.facebook.com/ABCGippsland/posts/10152817788559825 Labor Gonna Labe Labe Labe Labe Labe
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Anidav posted:THE FREE MARKET Not really, the reason these things are so profitable is because the government pays for them and people who would never ordinarily be able to spend $10k+ are suddenly able to.
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open24hours posted:Not really, the reason these things are so profitable is because the government pays for them and people who would never ordinarily be able to spend $10k+ are suddenly able to. He might mean free market slash lack of regulation. Doctor Spaceman posted:Westconnex is the massive loving road project going through the Inner West of Sydney. Extending the M4 east to join up with Anzac Bridge / Victoria Road and extending it south to link up with the M5. I see the sense in making a no-traffic lights road extend further towards the CBD from the east end of the M4, but it loving shits me that the toll-free M4 is going to be tolled. Similarly for NorthConnex, I see the sense in closing gaps in the motorway network. However, it seems like spending money to get people off the bloody roads in the first place would lead to a lessening of congestion, but I'm preaching to the converted here.
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 03:21 |
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Yeah, it was Howard who let all those private "educational" institutions be born. iirc.
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 03:25 |
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Yeah road projects just shuffle the congestion around really. All those people on citylink around here in the mornings/afternoons still need to use the same inner city feeder roads to get onto said project and the whole thing just chokes to death under sheer weight of private cars. I'm of the opinion what we need to spend money on is an adaptive ride share cab system, trains, and buses (like everyone else in here), but I think better consumer education is very important too. People frequently try and drive/catch cabs into the city during peak hour when there is a train system that will get them in out and faster and cheaper, and they STILL opt for putting yet another car on the road.
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 03:29 |
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I obviously do not want this to be considered an endorsement of the NSW Liberals, but they don't share the same hatred of roads that the Federal branch does and have actually got some pretty significant rail infrastructure projects planned / in progress. They're loving them up a bit (lol single deck cars) but they will actually talk about things like a second harbour crossing.
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 03:44 |
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Anidav posted:THE FREE MARKET From the NSW sides quote:College claims $50 million in loans
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 03:46 |
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More roads is pretty dumb when you consider they are already over capacity and adding a lane each way is going to do sweet gently caress all, especially when a lane each way isn't the whole length of the road too. I mean you could dump the money into public transport but you still have to convince people to use it and our society is way too fygm to ever do that.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I obviously do not want this to be considered an endorsement of the NSW Liberals, but they don't share the same hatred of roads that the Federal branch does and have actually got some pretty significant rail infrastructure projects planned / in progress. They're loving them up a bit (lol single deck cars) but they will actually talk about things like a second harbour crossing. Yeah essentially the years of Labor thumb twiddling under Obeid to maximise profit has left a plethora of "hey this should've been done years ago" backlog that the Liberal's can exploit for their own profit in other directions. Roads, trains, airplanes.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I obviously do not want this to be considered an endorsement of the NSW Liberals, but they don't share the same hatred of roads that the Federal branch does and have actually got some pretty significant rail infrastructure projects planned / in progress. They're loving them up a bit (lol single deck cars) but they will actually talk about things like a second harbour crossing. On the other hand, privatising VET and selling the electricity grid.
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People follow the path of least resistance, and if you make rail that path then people will follow it. No one, anywhere, ever enjoys sitting in traffic for 45 minutes stressed out and caffeine free because they woke up 5 minutes too late hoping like hell there aren't road works or an accident holding up traffic just so they can pay a billion dollars for parking at the other end. I've done it, it's poo poo, but it was still better than catching the train. Want to get arseholes like me off the road? Easy, improve the train system. If I knew I could reliably go station to station in a reasonable time frame I'd never drive.
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Quantum Mechanic posted:On the other hand, privatising VET and selling the electricity grid. That's why I'm not voting or campaigning for them, and why I said "I wouldn't want this to be considered an endorsement". Just that their approach to transport isn't as poo poo as previous governments or compared to other states / the federal level, and it's part of the reason why they'll get back in easily.
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 04:06 |
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What's so bad about the Westconnex plan? I'm no fan of the Liberals but it seems like a pretty reasonable way to alleviate the congestion that plagues the inner west (by diverting the traffic from the middle and outer suburbs undergound). It won't do much for inner city congestion (which isn't that bad anyway), but in the inner suburbs, especially around paramatta road east of concord, king street and the princes highway should show some pretty major improvement from a new highway underneath them carrying the commuters through, bypassing the suburban streets. It'd also be great for carrying buses for the middle and outer suburbs into the city.
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Quantum Mechanic posted:On the other hand, privatising VET and selling the electricity grid. It really doesn't matter when you have an invisible opposition. John Robertson was a bigger empty suit than Bill Shorten, and managed to make even fewer appearances in public, to be replaced by Luke Foley who was ostensibly to repair Labor only to immediately fall over at saying he was against same sex marriage and his major policy announcement being over horse racing. The only thing worse than a terrible leader is voting for someone whose sole claim to lead is by not being them. It got Barry O'Farrell over the line in the unloseable election but that is a huge exception to the rule.
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 04:26 |
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The arguments against it that I've seen have basically been that it's a shitload of money that could be spent elsewhere and that the revenue model / business case is a bit dodgy and it so it might end up being another Lane Cove / Cross-City tunnel.
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 04:42 |
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:zinger: As Lee Rhiannon pointed out, this week is hardly the time for Shorten of all people to be talking about a lack of difference between leaders.
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 04:44 |
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it wouldn't be that difficult to put shorten in place of turnbull either. anyway I'm off to the first Bayside Greens meeting, going to stack the branch with Goons and lead a takeover.
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# ? Feb 28, 2015 04:51 |
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Lid posted:Ah Dennis and Bolt, the last two true believers. Hell I haven't even seen Greg Sheridan pop up to claim Abbott's rising like the reincarnated F35. He dutifully dropped a 2,500 word screed this morning about how Abbott is a deep, complex man who the simple public just don't truly understand, and that he'll grow into a great prime minister with time.
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thatbastardken posted:it wouldn't be that difficult to put shorten in place of turnbull either.
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